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SOR5 · Sep 7, 2016

Just confirmed in the Playstation Meeting

This ones for you Jeff, you were almost there

Gamezone · Sep 7, 2016

Jeff Rigby?

dragonzdogma · Sep 7, 2016

Hey, wait ........wow--huh!

Acquiescence · Sep 7, 2016

StoopKid · Sep 7, 2016

Jeff rigby!!

Stormhammer · Sep 7, 2016

jeff is a god

Fezan · Sep 7, 2016

All hail jeff rigby

Ape · Sep 7, 2016

Vashetti · Sep 7, 2016

What about 4K UHD Blu-ray? They didn't mention it at all for the Pro.

xJavonta · Sep 7, 2016

Did not expect that

Soriku · Sep 7, 2016

Is there any marginal benefit with HDR on a non-HDR 1080p TV, or should I expect nothing?

TalonJH · Sep 7, 2016

Shiloa · Sep 7, 2016

To us non-technical people, can someone explain why the Xbox S was required for HDR but not for PS4?

SOR5 · Sep 7, 2016

Soriku said:
Is there any marginal benefit with HDR on a non-HDR 1080p TV, or should I expect nothing?

If your TV doesnt support HDR, expect nothing
If your TV does support it, get ready to see some really really nice colors

FinKL · Sep 7, 2016

Soriku said:
Is there any marginal benefit with HDR on a non-HDR 1080p TV, or should I expect nothing?

Im not an expert, but I don't think you get a benefit, so "itsfuckingnothing.gif" for most of us.

Negotiator · Sep 7, 2016

Care to explain how a GCN 1.1 (non-Polaris) will support HDR output?

ethomaz · Sep 7, 2016

Soriku said:
Is there any marginal benefit with HDR on a non-HDR 1080p TV, or should I expect nothing?

HDR is about color... not resolution.

Even 720p resolution will benefit with HDR (if have any 720p display with HDR support).

Eolz · Sep 7, 2016

That's the only great news coming out of this meeting lol.

Drencrom · Sep 7, 2016

In Jeff_Rigby we trust

Candescence · Sep 7, 2016

What the fuck is HDR? It shares an acronym with that one image effect that's been in gaming as far back as Half Life 2: Lost Coast.

pixelation · Sep 7, 2016

Jeff Rigby's Redemption.

Bornstellar · Sep 7, 2016

That's cool.

Except that AFAIK, all HDR capable displays are 4k...

Shambala · Sep 7, 2016

Hail to the king Jeff

crazyivan19 · Sep 7, 2016

ethomaz said:
HDR is about color... not resolution.

Even 720p resolution will benefit with HDR (if have any 720p display with HDR support).

I'll admit that I haven't followed any of this tech at all, so can you elaborate a bit? How do I know if my TV supports HDR? Is it only newer models or will some older models support it?

Nicky Ali · Sep 7, 2016

So PS4 Pro basically has one less selling point...?

foxbeldin · Sep 7, 2016

Candescence said:
What the fuck is HDR? It shares an acronym with that one image effect that's been in gaming as far back as Half Life 2: Lost Coast.

To put it in the simplest way : more colors on your display.

Proelite · Sep 7, 2016

Shiloa said:
To us non-technical people, can someone explain why the Xbox S was required for HDR but not for PS4?

So that you'll feel more compelled to buy Xbox S?

Btw, HDR isn't UHD. Jeff Rigby is only 1/3 right.

RootCause · Sep 7, 2016

Lol talk about crow eating.

The Last Wizard · Sep 7, 2016

Come on home Jeff! :,)

BadHand · Sep 7, 2016

I'm actually really happy for Jeff.

pottuvoi · Sep 7, 2016

Candescence said:
What the fuck is HDR? It shares an acronym with that one image effect that's been in gaming as far back as Half Life 2: Lost Coast.

Think ~4x times the brightness range available for an image without obvious banding of colors.

In HL2 and almost every game after that the HDR means that game is rendered with huge dynamic range of light. (Pre HL2 we rendered using 256 values for brightness with HDR we have thousands to millions.)

That range is reduced to 256 values for display on normal TV.
On HDR TV it's reduced to ~1024 values in 4x range in terms of brightness.

lostcauz · Sep 7, 2016

But if your TV can do HDR, it can do 4K so you'd most likely have a pro or Xbox One S wouldn't you?

GAMEPROFF · Sep 7, 2016

So the question is now, will I have the same advantages in lets say Days Gone By that were showcased on Pro Hardware?

Quick Mustard · Sep 7, 2016

So, is this seperate to 4.00 or are we getting it all in one big update next week?

Weebos · Sep 7, 2016

Any good or recommended TVs for HDR? Is there a thread for things like this?

Gemüsepizza · Sep 7, 2016

LMAO, and people are continuing here. HDR is *not* UHD. Jeff didn't even talk in his thread about HDR.

rahulkadukar · Sep 7, 2016

Only HDR not 4k HDR

JaseC · Sep 7, 2016

People, HDR and UHD BD are not synonyms. Considering House specified HDR but said nothing of support for 4K content, and both were the focus of the presentation, the logical conclusion is actually that retroactive UHD BD support isn't happening.

IvanJ · Sep 7, 2016

So, this update is completely useless for me and my 200 Grundig.

Which leads me to think the update will probably brick my console.

GrantDaNasty · Sep 7, 2016

#RIGBYWASRIGHT

maabus1999 · Sep 7, 2016

Doesn't HDR need HDMI 2.0? Does the PS4 have HDMI 2.0?

H4r4kiri · Sep 7, 2016

I have heard somehow that real Premium HDR need HDMI 2.0, but PLaystation 4 can not really do it , can it ?

DustyVonEric · Sep 7, 2016

Yes! Jefffffff all you mutha f'ers making fun of that man.

Edit: bah, now I'm sad

I wanted it to be true for him

Vuze · Sep 7, 2016

tapantaola said:
Care to explain how a GCN 1.1 (non-Polaris) will support HDR output?

ikr? Doesn't PS4 OG use HDMI 1.4 (which doesn't support HDR at all)? I'm confused.

qa_engineer · Sep 7, 2016

So everyone who made fun of Jeff Rigby should probably man or woman up and apologize?

Morts · Sep 7, 2016

Did TVs commonly support HDR before 4k?

GAMEPROFF · Sep 7, 2016

IvanJ said:
So, this update is completely useless for me and my 200 Grundig.

Which leads me to think the update will probably brick my console.

Why should it?

Morts said:
Did TVs commonly support HDR before 4k?

No. Its part of the 4K standard.

Griss · Sep 7, 2016

I don't care that Jeff was actually wrong, I am just amazed that he was right.

Struct09 · Sep 7, 2016

qa_engineer said:
So everyone who made fun of Jeff Rigby should probably man or woman up and apologize?

He's still wrong. HDR is not UHD, which is what his main claim is.

EvB · Sep 7, 2016

ethomaz said:
HDR is about color... not resolution.

Even 720p resolution will benefit with HDR (if have any 720p display with HDR support).

No It, isn't HDR is about peak brightness.
WCG (Wide Colour Gamut) or Deep Colour is about colour.

These things combined are what form the HDR stadards (HDR10, Dolby Vision) however, they can both exist separetly from each other.

PS3 support Deep colour for example.
All assets need to be in 10bit colour in order to take advantage of a wider colour gamut, but this requires increased bandwidth and 20% more storage vs an 8bit file

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