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AMD announces Zen CPU preview on 13th December, hosted by Geoff Keighley.
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PeterLegend
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SURPRISE It's in Scorpio lol
Zombie James
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Huh. Interesting to put on a gaming event for a CPU that doesn't have an integrated GPU.
Lagspike_exe
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Someone missed the Netburst/AMD64 era.
LelouchZero
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Tallshortman
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What? The audience that would watch it don't care about integrated graphics.
RedlineRonin
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100% this.
Same on the GPU side. AMD has done better recently in the low end, but needs to get back into competing in the i7 and GTX 1080 space.
Backfoggen
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Yeah, I always game on hot integrated GPUs.
RazorbackDB
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Since when "gamers" care about iGPU?
I laughed.
Samurai G0SU
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A Stream about ZEN? do i have to sign up in order to watch it?
I wonder who the special guests will be.
I wonder who the special guests will be.
Bits N Pieces
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Is this the CPU that is rumoured to be in the Scorpio?
I thought folk were saying that wasnt due until well into next year and would be too late to put into any consoles for 2017, or is that still the case?
I thought folk were saying that wasnt due until well into next year and would be too late to put into any consoles for 2017, or is that still the case?
Zombie James
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Obviously. What I mean is, what would be the point in showing off Zen in a gaming scenario when CPU's for gaming have been topped out for the past two years or so? Just to show that they've caught up to Intel? If they're just going to show off Zen systems with high-end GPUs running games, that's not going to tell you anything about Zen.
It'll probably be on twitch and/or youtube. You didn't have to sign up for the last stream they did.
Samurai G0SU
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Okay thank! I know i wont understand a lot of the technical things they will talk about, but i will be excited to see the reaction on it's capabilities from others here.
Pop-O-Matic
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And this just after I upgraded to a 4690k...
Deeke[VRZ]
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Zen is tailor made to compliment Polaris and Vega GPU architectures.
So those preview builds will likely have RX 480s in them, or maybe the rumores new RX 490 dual Polaris 10 Ellesmere GPU.
Yes but safe to say not rumored any more since we just got our confirmation with this announcement. Zen in Scorpio will pretty much be a new gen for MS.
The excerpt in the OP mentions that e-sports teams will be "[putting the CPU] through its paces". This isn't a Scorpio announcement but essentially a reveal of the first real-world gaming benchmarks, which may seem strange, but you have to keep in mind that Intel ran off with the ball when it released Conroe/Core2Duo a little over a decade ago now -- AMD's been fighting an uphill battle ever since.
It was reported that AMD ruled out accepting semi-custom contracts for Zen before 2018, which, if accurate, in turn means it won't be in Scorpio.
Pop-O-Matic
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Da fuck you on? There's still a load of games that are CPU bound. And showing that they've caught up and/or possibly surpassed Intel would still be a big deal if they price aggressively.
Deeke[VRZ]
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As soon as Microsoft said Scorpio had 8-cores, I instantly thought Zen.
There's no way in hell a 6TFLOP GPU can be paired with the horribly outdated Jaguar CPU and deliver enthusiast grade performance.
Totally has to be Zen, maybe even Vega too.
Zombie James
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How is this in any way confirmation that Zen is going to be in Scorpio? Not saying it won't be, but there's nothing here that confirms anything (unless I'm missing something).
Lister
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Collateral22
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Zen + 6TF +12GB RAM = 599 minimum imo.
Possumowner
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Oh that's cool,hopefully And competes at a decent level
tiredheadcrab
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The fuck is this thread on? Nowhere does this state Scorpio is using Zen.
You're not missing anything. Some appear to be responding to the thread title and not the actual OP.
Samurai G0SU
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Anyone think Phil will just walk out on stage and then give an announcement to when they will announce more info about the scorpio? LOL
".. and come Holiday 2017 you can experience the latest technology of ZEN with Project Scorpio. We listened, we created, we will deliver.. as our promise to Gamers first is the core of Microsoft and Xbox."
I'm being too optimistic. lol and very silly.
".. and come Holiday 2017 you can experience the latest technology of ZEN with Project Scorpio. We listened, we created, we will deliver.. as our promise to Gamers first is the core of Microsoft and Xbox."
I'm being too optimistic. lol and very silly.
Well yeah, they would obviously have to benchmark it in a CPU bound scenario vs. an Intel CPU. I don't know if this is the right venue for technical stuff of that kind.
Pop-O-Matic
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For such a big hardcore gaming site, it's actually kind of amazing how often people here forget that PC gaming exists.
Also, AMD isn't making Zen ready for semi-custom use until after Scorpio comes out.
Even then that seems like quite a reach to come to.
Perhaps I read too much into it lol but gut feeling says this is in Scorpio & this event could confirm that in due time.
DagnastyEp
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I also find it interesting, and I think what it tells us is AMD wants to target and market to the PC gaming audience with this product. Putting gaming at the forefront of the efforts for this CPU is an interesting approach, and I wonder if these efforts extend past simple marketing, and if they really prioritized the designed of the CPU for gaming applications.
crazepharmacist
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Deeke[VRZ];225646457 said:
That outdated Jaguar CPU also has 8 cores though.
LelouchZero
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The 4690K still holds up pretty well, I wouldn't really worry about it unless you're CPU bound in a lot of the games you play.
Deeke[VRZ];225646457 said:
You can still throw more GPU power at the Jaguar cores, you may encounter CPU limits but then you can do things such as raising the resolution and improving the graphics, all this can be done without needing a more powerful CPU. The problem begins when you want to push higher frame-rates, this is where a more powerful CPU can help.
Battlefield 1 is CPU bound on the PS4 Pro and sees dips to 40 fps, even though the GPU is capable of running at 60 fps with a dynamic resolution between 1080p and 1440p, however to counter the CPU limitations they raised the resolution and improved the graphics while still being CPU bound in an attempt to use more of the GPU.
Pop-O-Matic
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Thankfully. The AM3/FM2/AM1 nonsense was so goddamn confusing. Glad to see them put all their mainstream stuff on one socket.
absolutely not
JonnyDBrit
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Keighley getting some work this month.
Still, colour me intrigued. I admittedly buckled in building my current rig and got an AMD CPU due to the cost comparison to Intel's stuff, and have mildly regretted it. I mean, it does decently enough, but its clearly not got longevity to it. Zen would have to be something special to convince me not to switch to Intel in future.
Still, colour me intrigued. I admittedly buckled in building my current rig and got an AMD CPU due to the cost comparison to Intel's stuff, and have mildly regretted it. I mean, it does decently enough, but its clearly not got longevity to it. Zen would have to be something special to convince me not to switch to Intel in future.