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Crackdown 3 will be a "Truly massive destructible world"
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Piston Hyundai
Member
Wow, I'm surprised they're still pushing the cloud stuff.
Neoleo2143
Member
This sounds incredible but I truly wonder what they'll do with it design wise.
Microsoft. And every other major software company in the entire world.
Legit curious what industry some of you work in.
SpiceMelange
Member
Power the Cloud is alive
ElRenoRaven
Member
Yeah Yeah. I'll believe it when I see it. This game has been coming for years now. I'm beginning to believe that we'll never see it.
phantasmic_glaive
Member
This and Scorpio will be quite a showcase this fall.
I hope this one turns out to be more like the first Crackdown. I didn't like the second one.
I hope this one turns out to be more like the first Crackdown. I didn't like the second one.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
So if this was true does that mean my 980Ti won't be able to pull a 60fps because it's all based on the power of the cloud which makes the actual local machine near useless?
GHG
Gold Member
"Here's our new most powerful console in the world ever"*
*when cloud computing is enabled, Internet connection required.
Well don't forget the orbs
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
Wow this game was announced years ago. Wonder why it still hasn't came out? Most Xbox games are out soon after announcing.
Hey Im Patrick
Member
Is that bad? Cloud tech development is the way to go. We live in a world that almost everything can go online.
¡HarlequinPanic!
Member
Years of work towards a title that will be novel for one playthrough until you destroy the entire city with friends and have nothing else to do.
Pretty bummed MS is throwing all their weight behind this one for this year thinking it's going to be a huge title when everyone knows the first one, a fun game, sold thanks to being attached to Halo and this sequel is coming out in an age that's flush with open world 'go anywhere' titles.
Maybe this is an important foundation for future online enabled titles, who knows.
Pretty bummed MS is throwing all their weight behind this one for this year thinking it's going to be a huge title when everyone knows the first one, a fun game, sold thanks to being attached to Halo and this sequel is coming out in an age that's flush with open world 'go anywhere' titles.
Maybe this is an important foundation for future online enabled titles, who knows.
Is there any estimate on how much of Azure will be dedicated to this game (I know they are spun up as needed, but there has to be some kind of limit especially if it becomes detrimental to other applications being served by Azure)? Like, if 80,000 people are playing at once and they need a buttfuck ton of nodes to maintain framerates, I don't see how this is viable unless Azure is truly that fucking huge.
I'm more inclined to believe this shit is purposely left unoptimized on the high end PC.
I'm more inclined to believe this shit is purposely left unoptimized on the high end PC.
phantasmic_glaive
Member
"Here's our new most powerful console in the world ever"
*when cloud computing is enabled, Internet connection required."
That'll suck ass.. can't they like, download all this stuff to the system and run it off of that? Lol, sorry my tech knowledge is very limited. I just play the stuff.
*response to GHG
Sorry I'm new
*when cloud computing is enabled, Internet connection required."
That'll suck ass.. can't they like, download all this stuff to the system and run it off of that? Lol, sorry my tech knowledge is very limited. I just play the stuff.
*response to GHG
Sorry I'm new
That'll suck ass.. can't they like, download all this stuff to the system and run it off of that? Lol, sorry my tech knowledge is very limited. I just play the stuff.
It's all real-time so it has to be computed on the fly. No way to fix this without cutting the destruction down.
GHG
Gold Member
Or optimising the processes involved in calculating the destruction.
SatoAilDarko
Member
I really liked hte first one. Just a playground of destruction while you slowly got stronger, with real repercussions, like being able to lift heavier cars, and jumping higer, etc..
If they can improve on that comcept with the power of the cloudTM I will feel bad I sold my xbox one and wont be able to play this.
If not, I wont sweat it.
If they can improve on that comcept with the power of the cloudTM I will feel bad I sold my xbox one and wont be able to play this.
If not, I wont sweat it.
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
There's definitely other applications for it. Crackdown 3 is basically just a tech demo in game form.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Seriously, the only details we've ever gotten about this game are about the destructibility physics. What about the game? It's embarrassing at this point.
blame space
Banned
crackdown 1 is GOAT
can't wait for this
can't wait for this
phantasmic_glaive
Member
Well, if it comes out and is good, at least they can say they are on the fore front of this.
i think
This seems like one of the few scenarios where it makes sense to use cloud computing. Lots of calculations that don't necessarily need to be perfectly real time.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Sure, but then you're still left with a game that requires a high end PC if you want to play online which leaves you a tiny potential customer base. Either way you look at it they need the cloud computing to make it work
It'll be Play Anywhere so if you have a Windows 10 PC then you don't need an Xbone.
LelouchZero
Member
This is cool, hopefully the PC version will be able to run at 60+ fps. I also wonder what CPU they were using for this 'high-end' PC?
Woo-Fu
Banned
There are SLAs for Azure services provided by Microsoft. I doubt they'd throw those out the window for a game, a game that will probably only use a tiny fraction of their available compute.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/support/legal/sla/
I'm sure Microsoft has an estimate. I'm also sure that they'd consider that to be proprietary information that they would prefer stays internal.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I imagine this game will be front and center at E3. It better be anyway.
They did a video where they talked about the game before showing the destruction. And the destruction will definitely impact gameplay in a huge way, more than just bringing down buildings.
Maybe it'll pull a Bioshock and the physics will be locked at a different framerate. 30fps on PC for this game would be amazingly boneheaded.
Oh yeah good point. I hope sea of thieves and state of decay are play anywhere as well, I would really like to play those too.
killatopak
Gold Member
just cause 3
fps and all.
fps and all.
Just Cause 3 on PC runs pretty well in my experience.
killatopak
Gold Member
Unless I'm misunderstanding, your original comparison was related to Just Cause 3 running just as poorly.
JC3 didn't drop below 90 frames for me on PC. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
killatopak
Gold Member
you're right. change it to just cause 3 (consoles) then.
They did a video where they talked about the game before showing the destruction. And the destruction will definitely impact gameplay in a huge way, more than just bringing down buildings.
That gif reminds me of a game called BReach on XBL. It promised that kind of granular destruction. It delivered buggy gameplay and empty servers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoNC9pb-Bkg
It's a bit odd to think about that kind of fine destruction in a game like Crackdown, where eventually the player ends up so powerful and so fast that they're leaping small buildings in a single bound (sort of).
Having cover destroyed in that way might affect the player at the very start of a game, but wouldn't it soon be meaningless in terms of danger? So, is the point then that it becomes a tool for the player to exploit without penalty? Sniping bad guys through tiny gaps in the wall etc.
EDIT -
While I'm about it, it's good that we'll be able to destroy these massive buildings and in turn they'll affect other objects in the world in surprising was (one hopes). But we're just blowing up bigger, empty, boxes.
If possible, I'd rather devs offloaded computation in order to make buildings actual playspaces, populated with NPCs, that we can move through. The thought of being in a shootout in a medium building and hearing its coming down, is more interesting than having a much, much bigger box that I can blow up - but that's all.
Think its worth pointing out the person playing the game in that clip stated they were using powered up weapons specifically to show off the destruction, so normal weapons wont be able to quickly chew through cover. Also, I would imagine different surfaces react differently to damage so some walls might be built out of a more durable material or made thicker to protect a particular target.
You will probably be able to do stuff like this if they include a "Keys to the City" mode, which I hope to see return.