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borges · Jul 17, 2017

...or was fired, not completely clear.
source: http://xbnrg.com/2017/noticias/lucas-landa-deja-microsoft-argentina/ (sorry, only links I found are in spanish).

For sure his role was not that important overall on Xbox as a whole, but Im wondering if he's going to be replaced at all.

Xbox representation on LATAM (with the exception of Mexico and Brasil -yes, with s-) is almost non existing at this point.

So, wondering if big heads in Redmond(talking to you Phil Spencer

) are planning to change this and try to make a reasonable investment on the region in the foreseeable future.
They keep telling they want to make Xbox a global brand, and having almost no structure at all on almost all LATAM countries (apart from customer service) does not look very promising...

andrerobot · Jul 17, 2017

Brazil in English is written with a Z.

Deal with it.

borges · Jul 17, 2017

andrerobot said:
Brazil in English is written with a Z.

Deal with it.

Brasil in Brasil is written with an S.

Boom headshot!

Manu · Jul 17, 2017

Not surprised. I don't believe the 360 was officially supported over here until around 2013 or something.

krang · Jul 17, 2017

borges said:
Brasil in Brasil is written with an S.

Boom headshot!

But they said "Mexico and Brasil". One of those must be wrong if they are maintaining consistency.

borges · Jul 17, 2017

Manu said:
Not surprised. I don't believe the 360 was officially supported over here until around 2013 or something.

Yeah, actually it was officially supported 3 or 4 months before Xbox One release. Crazy!

Eila · Jul 17, 2017

borges said:
Brasil in Brasil is written with an S.

Boom headshot!

Why not México though.

CaviarMeths · Jul 17, 2017

I thought the Xbox brand was actually doing fairly well in Brazil?

borges · Jul 17, 2017

Eila said:
Why not México though.

Actually, México has a very colonialist origin. Mēxihco would be the perfect one.

borges · Jul 17, 2017

CaviarMeths said:
I thought the Xbox brand was actually doing fairly well in Brazil?

Yes, Bra(s/z)il and Mé(x/j)ico are ok, the problem is the rest of the continent.

ForkNetwork · Jul 17, 2017

Xbox Uruguay is a thing?

Starbuck2907 · Jul 17, 2017

...if I remember correctly, game consoles used to be crazy expensive in Brazil due to import taxes. Is this still the case?

Here is a link from launch:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-costs-1-850-in-brazil/1100-6415637/

I hear the xbone is down to around the equivalent of $600 now in Brazil.

borges · Jul 17, 2017

ForkNetwork said:
Xbox Uruguay is a thing?

Well, Argentina and Uruguay are very close countries, so I think it makes sense to have just one Xbox Division (Chile as well).

borges · Jul 17, 2017

Starbuck2907 said:
...if I remember correctly, game consoles used to be crazy expensive in Brazil due to import taxes. Is this still the case?

Here is a link from launch:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-costs-1-850-in-brazil/1100-6415637/

I hear the xbone is down to around the equivalent of $600 now in Brazil.

Thats right, Brasil is the best case, because they manufacture the console. In Argentina, for example, an Xbox One S costs aprox. usd705. Uruguay a little bit more.

sibarraz · Jul 17, 2017

Men, I remember when the XBOX 360 was launched here on Chile and Microsoft make a big deal saying that this was an official launch.

It didn't lasted more than 5 years but it was beautiful when it lasted

Rodolfo Brito · Jul 17, 2017

borges said:
Brasil in Brasil is written with an S.

Boom headshot!

You should have written México instead.

metareferential · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 · Jul 17, 2017

Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

Rodolfo Brito · Jul 17, 2017

If you think about the logistics, it would be reasonable if these countries receive The model that is assembled in Brazil. So, even with the import incentives, it would be a fairly expensive console.

Does someone know how is it compare with the brazilian model in terms of price?

j0hnny_385 · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 said:
Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

LambdaTeos · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 said:
Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

With the exception of México

México has a lot of support from Microsoft in regards to Xbox

They learned with Xbox 360 and learned about the potential in console market, not to mention their IP Gears of War

borges said:
Yes, Bra(s/z)il and Mé(x/j)ico are ok, the problem is the rest of the continent.

This

LATAM still has a lot of support from Microsoft, but seems like it doesn't exists since they are conglomerated in "LATAM", not in specific countries or small regions

Still, I believe Microsoft, out of all 3, is the one supporting LATAM countries the most, console launches, events, even a Fan fest with the announcement of Xbox one S for LATAM

clay_ghost · Jul 17, 2017

Xbox Singapore is affected too.

"
Specifically, the company has laid off staff from the Microsoft Singapore division that looks after consumer products and this includes the Xbox team.

According to sources, the territory will be managed by the Xbox regional team for Asia-Pacific out of Australia in the interim
"

http://gameaxis.com/news/xbox-singapore-not-spared-microsofts-global-restructuring/

brotkasten · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 said:
Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

That seems to be due to Microsoft's corporate culture and affects a lot of divisions. A lot of Cortana or Bing features are rarely available outside the US and UK, for example. If they are now, it most likely took a year or more to come over. Especially with Cortana is makes no sense, since you want as many people as possible using it. Yet the Android app isn't available outside the US, even though it works outside the US in Windows 10 and launched on Windows Phone back in 2014.

Caronte · Jul 17, 2017

borges said:
Brasil in Brasil is written with an S.

Boom headshot!

Do you also write/say 日本 when talking about Japan?

Manu · Jul 17, 2017

Caronte said:
Do you also write/say 日本 when talking about Japan?

Japan? Surely you mean Nippon.

meirl · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 said:
Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

makes Sense. thats why they had Tons of fifa exclusive stuff and also the digital tv Tuner that only worked in Europe: http://support.xbox.com/de-DE/xbox-one/accessories/xbox-one-digital-tv-tuner

MCD250 · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 said:
Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

The reverse is true as well. One of the biggest culture shocks I experienced when moving to the US was the realization that a lot of people were invested in the Xbox brand here. Before that, Xboxes seemed more like novelty items than anything else.

borges · Jul 17, 2017

Rodolfo Brito said:
If you think about the logistics, it would be reasonable if these countries receive The model that is assembled in Brazil. So, even with the import incentives, it would be a fairly expensive console.

Does someone know how is it compare with the brazilian model in terms of price?

In Argentina costs nearly 705 on the lowest side, Brasil 600, Uruguay nearly 750.

borges · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 said:
Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

Well, its not like Playstation or Nintendo are much better. But at least Sony invest a bit on advertising.

Rodolfo Brito · Jul 17, 2017

borges said:
In Argentina costs nearly 705 on the lowest side, Brasil 600, Uruguay nearly 750.

It makes sense to presume that this is the model that is assembled in Manaus, then.

Foxy the Fox · Jul 17, 2017

PeruGAF here, MS came to introduce the x360 in 2012 (when everyone here already had that) in a press-only event with delicious Pizza.

After that they never came back.

PlayStation left in 2015 and Nintendo isn't even here by themselves.

Linkark07 · Jul 17, 2017

Didn't know Microsoft had Xbox Representatives in LatAm. In Panama, this is basically Nintendo/Sony land. Few people own Xbox consoles.

LukasTaves · Jul 17, 2017

Duxxy3 said:
Xbox international is a turd sandwich. The US is managed well. The UK is managed fairly well. Everything else... it's like it doesn't exist to Microsoft.

Not true, they make a very good job in Brazil. Much much much better than either Sony or Nintendo.

borges · Jul 17, 2017

LukasTaves said:
Not true, they make a very good job in Brazil. Much much much better than either Sony or Nintendo.

Yeah, Brazil and México have a good presence. Argentina and the rest of LATAM countries, though...

WaterAstro · Jul 17, 2017

Can we say Bro(s/z)il instead?

Rodolfo Brito · Jul 17, 2017

WaterAstro said:
Can we say Bro(s/z)il instead?

As a brazilian, I say: hell yeah

borges · Jul 17, 2017

metareferential said:

Yeah, I was trying to be vocal to see if LATAM users can get at least a taste of what it is to have a proper service, like the ones americans and europeans enjoy daily basis.
But yeah, americans and europeans give a complete shit about us.
Funny how many are super anti-Trump because of the shit that guys says about us, but at the of the day, we are still the guys on the other side of the fence.

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