http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/...-online-patches-to-rebalance-moves-types.html
Glad that they feel they put the effort in. It's always somewhat annoying to me to see new "balance" patches for games every couple of months
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Pokémon X & Y will not receive post-release patches to game engine
- Thread starter JoeM86
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/...-online-patches-to-rebalance-moves-types.html
Glad that they feel they put the effort in. It's always somewhat annoying to me to see new "balance" patches for games every couple of months
PotionBleue
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GasProblem
Member
They don't plan to release anything, but they still can.
Quadraphonic
Member
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
It's all well and good that they think they won't need patches, but with literally hundreds of characters each with their own set of distinct stats, patching should never be ruled out.
It's all well and good that they think they won't need patches, but with literally hundreds of characters each with their own set of distinct stats, patching should never be ruled out.
A Sentient Keyboard
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I wonder how much Gamefreak is aware of competitive pokemon (on smogon and such). I'm planning to go back if the XY 'metagame' is good, so I'm hoping they really did have a serious look at the game balance. Then again, part of the fun of competitive pokemon is that it's not really designed to be played that way.
EDIT: At least, that is my impression of it.
EDIT: At least, that is my impression of it.
They are very much aware of it. Contrary to what people believe, they don't just add things on a whim, they plot everything out perfectly.
WrenchNinja
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Lol sure they did
Nintendo holds tournaments so they should be pretty aware of it lol.
The_Intruder
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Can we have a patch for 3D in the overworld lol.
WrenchNinja
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Yup Double Team is the epitome of perfection.
You can never really say how balanced your game is on a competitive level until it is in the hands of the players. I'm glad these guys have pride in what they created but it mostly sounds like the same BS youd hear from capcom about one of their fighting games. They really shouldn't rule out patches this early
If they didn't want Double Team to work like that, it wouldn't work like that
They aren't ruling out patches they just don't plan on it at this point in the game.
I honestly do not know what would be changed about Double Team if they wanted to change it without making it a completely different move since all it does is raise evasion by one stage.
WrenchNinja
Member
"If they didn't want this move to be a broken piece of shit derided by the community for more than a decade, it wouldn't work like that"
I guess anything can be spun as perfection if it was always intended to be bad.
If Double Team was "unbalanced" in a way that made it good, it would be used a lot. I can tell you from experience that it's not worth using. That's why none of the top players use it. I'm sure Game Freak's stats show the same thing as they collect quite a few bit of usage data on the Pokemon Global Link.
Game Freak is very aware of the competitive battling community. They probably don't pay much attention to sites like Smogon and Pokemon Online which mostly concern themselves with custom rulesets, but I assume they do pay attention to the Japanese blogosphere and twitter. They're also on record as saying they pay close attention to the World Championships and through a friend of a friend know that their playtesting groups are quite skilled.
It's actually ridiculous how much thought has been put into some very complex move interactions.
I don't have a problem with it ingame but it can be annoying if a real person spammed it.
They've been patching Pokemon games since Ruby and Sapphire so I'm sure they would.
BW2 did not fix the Sky Drop glitch. Instead they opted to keep banning the move Sky Drop instead which was disappointing.
In any case, Masuda says patches aren't planned. Not that they would never, ever, patch the game.
Edit: OP only quoted part of the article. There's more. I recommend clicking it.
To be fair, them fixing the Sky Drop glitch would have caused some issues in compatibility with Black & White
Monado Blade
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I wonder if they'll reconsider patching the games if it happens that the hacking community discovers how to insert hacked pokemon.
One of the things that annoys me the most this gen and the previous one is the abundance of hacked pokemon, or even "legal" pokemon that are created with pokegen or whatever.
One of the things that annoys me the most this gen and the previous one is the abundance of hacked pokemon, or even "legal" pokemon that are created with pokegen or whatever.
That would probably depend on how its done.
Hot Coldman
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No shit, engine upgrades are being kept for Z/RubyRemake.
Cute Dragon Here
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I believe that it's a good thing that no patching will be done to any Pokémon game for balance reasons... it's actually kind of hard to think of a concrete reason for this, but maybe people don't really like too much change... and a moving target...
Either way, the wording still leaves open patches to fix game-breaking bugs and the like, as well as possibly performance improvements down the line, and perhaps introduce new forms down the line if/when a newer game comes into picture.
Either way, the wording still leaves open patches to fix game-breaking bugs and the like, as well as possibly performance improvements down the line, and perhaps introduce new forms down the line if/when a newer game comes into picture.
It's not that they made a statement, it's that they were asked and so they answered that they don't intend to.
This may sound bullshit, but I believe their mentality is world first--if a Pokemon or move turns out to be unbalanced, then it is unbalanced in a sense that there are Pokemon far stronger than others in their world. They don't want to tinker with the world they have presented.
Of course, this has to be finely balanced so that it doesn't clash with the competitive community, which is easier said than done. But they seem to believe that imbalance can be somewhat fixed with house rules. YMMV, obviously.
Of course, this has to be finely balanced so that it doesn't clash with the competitive community, which is easier said than done. But they seem to believe that imbalance can be somewhat fixed with house rules. YMMV, obviously.
Wait, what? Did they really write that (see bolded part) :
.... don't tell me they didn't realise it was Metagross?!
Wow. Did the translator not know the JP equivalent of Metagross, or did the guys who wrote the article not realise he was writing non-sense?
Anyway, it's clear he's only talking about game balance, not glitches and the likes (thankfully). Which is a pretty healthy mindset, as long as they don't go and ignore balant imbalances if there's some.
.... don't tell me they didn't realise it was Metagross?!
Wow. Did the translator not know the JP equivalent of Metagross, or did the guys who wrote the article not realise he was writing non-sense?
Anyway, it's clear he's only talking about game balance, not glitches and the likes (thankfully). Which is a pretty healthy mindset, as long as they don't go and ignore balant imbalances if there's some.
A Sentient Keyboard
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The Shadow Knight
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It would also be consistent with their nerfs to the Steel type in XY.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Balance patches to any game don't happen because developers missed obviously OP stuff because they're lazy as hell or blind--they happen because online competitive games give rise to unexpected and emergent strategies that developers compensate for in order to ensure competitive variety.
