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AMD R9 390X and R9 380X 20nm Pirate Islands Info Leaked (9x faster than GDDR5)
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BigTnaples
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Maybe I can finally upgrade for my Occulus build then.
69502gb getting long in the tooth.
69502gb getting long in the tooth.
OminoMichelin
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ooooh boy, dem stacks.
Nintendojitsu
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Now this is what defines a master.
KojiKnight
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Completely new tech like this? It certainly will be. As much as I'd love an upgrade to my 7870, I think I'll quitely suffer til the 4XX line comes out when prices will have dropped a bit.
Hmm, one might say this is interestingly timed given the 970 buzz out there.
Certainly this would be interesting though, if AMD can really deliver stacked memory so soon, and so far ahead of nVidia. Lots of 'allegedlys' in there though, so not sure whether to rev the hype engines or not.
Certainly this would be interesting though, if AMD can really deliver stacked memory so soon, and so far ahead of nVidia. Lots of 'allegedlys' in there though, so not sure whether to rev the hype engines or not.
ThoseDeafMutes
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In case you're wondering, Nvidia has its finger in HBM pies too. Afaik HBM is a memory standard, and AMD would here be working one one specific implementation of it, rather than "inventing it" as the OP's article seems to be making out. Someone might correct me if I'm wrong there.
Like, next year. This is thought to be a Q1 2015.
Like, next year. This is thought to be a Q1 2015.
Auto-Reply
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Yeah, hope this too. 2015 is the year they have to be ready for my Oculus build. I'd like to go with Nvidia but 2016 is too late so AMD could be the only option :/
KojiKnight
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The article reads that AMD will have a full year of HBM over Nvidia GDDR5... that is going to be very very nice for AMD.
Green Biker Dude
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ThoseDeafMutes
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They certainly need to do something, since Maxwell has wiped the floor with AMDs upper range cards in value, efficiency and pure power terms. With the 960 just around the corner most likely, their low-mid range might be under threat too.
AMD has always been competitive in the GPU space.
It's CPU where they're getting slaughtered. Seriously, they need
substantial breakthroughs to catch up with Intel at this point :/
I have no idea what that article is saying, all I see is more power, more bandwidth, less power consumption, scalable, so here's my reaction to this news:
No this news make me happy that my 970 order was not shipped due to shortages....I may just wait now and get the new AMD cards when they ship....good to see PC top end being moved on enough (hopefully) to think about upgrading, my 7870 has been a superb card till now.
Majukun
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there's always going to be something better on the horizon in this market...just pick the best you have ATM,we have several months before the 3xx series
michaelius
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Right because AMD is charity and they never used superior market position in moments when they had it to bleed people wallet dry.
Same-ish here; I was about to upgrade for Shadow of Mordor, but it runs decently on my current system, now I can save up and bide my time for a rig with this awesomesauce in it. I just hope they ship 6Gigs VRAM versions
Turin Turambar
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But.. wasn't AMD dead after 970??
ThoseDeafMutes, someone has to invent and develop the system to be used later as "memory standard".
ThoseDeafMutes, someone has to invent and develop the system to be used later as "memory standard".
True. They will charge as much as they can get away with, just like Nvidia.
I hope AMD can truly release spectacular products, I don't want the GPU space to become akin to what's happening on the CPU side, Intel humiliating AMD on a yearly basis and not feeling pressured at all.
But.. wasn't AMD dead after 970??
ThoseDeafMutes, someone has to invent and develop the system to be used later as "memory standard".
They pretty much are for the rest of the year. These cards are coming Q1 2015 whenever that is. By then, NVIDIA has the 980, 970 and 960 out. What does AMD have left when the 960 releases?
Objectively Bad Opinion
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That line is super BS. IIRC ATi co-created GDDR3, GDDR4, and GDDR5.
If anything, AMD co-creating HBM and Nvidia adopting it is business as usual.
KojiKnight
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As someone who only upgrades their GPU every 2-3 years, I'm more than willing to wait out an extra 6 months to see how it plays out. We're so close to the 20nm drop, that and HBM likely to be AMD exclusive all next year? That is a perfect firestorm for AMD.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I hope for their sake and ours that they're very aggressive in leveraging this advantage. I'm not convinced it's going to allow them to really crush the Nvidia range though - the Maxwell cards actually have less memory bandwidth than their predecessors yet perform better... and use less power... on the same process node.
KojiKnight
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oh my god....
I seriously do not want to buy an intel CPU.
AMD pls
HBM is apparently going to play a big part in the next AMD APUs, but whether this is going to be used exclusively for the igpu (which would still be pretty big as it would mean great things for mid-range laptops) or if it can be used general computing has yet to be specified.
Memory bandwidth hasn't been too great of an issue mostly because the current GPUs have essentially hit a hard cap at the current 28nm process. The drop to 20nm combined with this should be quite drastic. But yes, no one should be celebrating anything till we see hard numbers. There are always way for AMD to screw something up.
Turin Turambar
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So... three or four months?
Given their release schedules which aren't paired anymore, that's the normal thing.
oh my god....
I seriously do not want to buy an intel CPU.
AMD pls
Intel has been ahead in the enthusiast space since Core2Duo/Conroe in 2006. AMD couldn't catch up even if it wanted to.
I'm in.
My exact reaction.
All I need to know is, where will the Skylake (14nm) fabrication and production plants be located?
Arizona or Israel?
oh my god....
I seriously do not want to buy an intel CPU.
AMD pls
And why ? Their CPU are better for gaming.
It'll be useful in regards to VR, higher resolutions and raising the low-end (which benefits everyone). Back at the start of last gen PCs were mostly at 1024x1280 or 1024x760 resolution. It's not going to take long before 1440p or 4K becomes a mainstream thing in regards to PC gaming and advances like this will drive that resolution jump.
Dictator93
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Don' t they also have a german production facitily? Or am I confusing them with GF?
NumberThree
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Yes HBM is a standard, but from what I understand it was mainly developed by Hynix and AMD. There's another competitive standard, HMC (hybrid memory cube), that's being developed by Micron, Intel etc.. Earlier this year Nvidia said that they're using HBM, but we don't know if they were originally planning to use HMC (which is what the article states).
390X is supposed to water cooled? http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-390x-arrives-1h-2015-feature-hydra-liquid-cooling/
Is this site reliable?
Is this site reliable?
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