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Naughty Dog: Uncharted 4 will expand sandbox gameplay; further than TLOU
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Traumnovelle
Member
YES!
Oh yeah, I believe it. Lots of unexplored space in that gameplay demo, once he reached the combat area. Cool to hear that it seems general exploration will be that way as well. Anything to make each playthrough more interesting.
Many combat encounters could be tackled in a much larger multitude of ways than what Uncharted has allowed in the past. You'll quickly understand on the harder difficulties, where you have to attempt different tactics in order to make it through a particularly hard zone. A lot of encounters can be completed without alerting anyone if you're sneaky enough. And there were a few quiet areas were fairly open for exploration too. Much of the map design had lots of off-the-beaten path places that you could explore, even if they don't actually have much of anything in them. You're still encouraged to explore those places though, because sometimes they do contain useful supplies, it's just never a given.
Many combat encounters could be tackled in a much larger multitude of ways than what Uncharted has allowed in the past. You'll quickly understand on the harder difficulties, where you have to attempt different tactics in order to make it through a particularly hard zone. A lot of encounters can be completed without alerting anyone if you're sneaky enough. And there were a few quiet areas were fairly open for exploration too. Much of the map design had lots of off-the-beaten path places that you could explore, even if they don't actually have much of anything in them. You're still encouraged to explore those places though, because sometimes they do contain useful supplies, it's just never a given.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
When I read stuff like this I almost want to break my rule of never pre-ordering games that don't have release dates. >_< UC4 is going to be amazing.
Off-Kilter
Banned
why
On topic, this is music to my ears.
Some levels were more open than the usual Uncharted standard. Levels such as the suburbs for example (best stage in the game).
Uncharted should of always had a mix of both.
Edit: don't think GTA sandbox.
badcrumble
Member
One of the most rewarding things in gaming is for it to feel like your solution to a particular problem is unique or can be told as a story. Really glad to hear this is going to make big strides toward effectively getting to choreograph your own action setpiece instead of proceeding roughly along a line. Uncharted 2 has a few battles where it feels roomy enough to tell your own story with the fight, and Uncharted: Drake's Fortune does a decent job of attempting to push you out of cover, but this sounds like a much, much better fit for the formula.
Icyflamez96
Member
Sounds cool.
Prototype Viktor
Member
the subway
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Fuck yes, I loved the open areas in TLoU.
"Sandbox" can refer to the set of all possible tactics, challenges, balance options, etc.
Bungie talks about their "weapons sandbox" when they refer to the way guns are getting used, how they plan to adjust specific exotics, etc.
So I think this is just saying that the player will have more freedom in how they tackle some parts of the game. Not necessarily a promise of anything wide-open level layouts.
DannyDanger
Member
pshhhh
The series is destroyed
Smh Naughty Dog, bring the series back to its roots
(if you think this post is serious... i have no words for you)
The series is destroyed
Smh Naughty Dog, bring the series back to its roots
(if you think this post is serious... i have no words for you)
HORRORSHØW
Member
the verticality in the demo demonstrated that to a degree. it opens up how the player approaches each encounter, and that should hopefully alleviate some of the gallery-shooter mechanics of past iterations.
Sure did, but the default difficulty doesn't force you to bother with it.
At first I thought only of the dumb empty deer chase area but then I remembered there's a dozen or so open areas where you move through houses.
That was my exact same question!
toddhunter
Member
It did.
Sandbox just means a box filled with sand. It doesn't have to be a city or something like that to qualify. As long as you have an environment and give players the choice of what they do in it, then it is ok.
Did TLoU have very small scale and limited sandbox gameplay? Yes. But there were still plenty of areas where you could wonder around and places that you would never see and enemies you might not fight unless you wanted to. Presumably they are looking to take that even further.
There is a balance to be struck here. I wouldn't want to see Uncharted 4 be too open, given the base gameplay isn't strong enough to carry it (Things need to be tight and focused). But of course they may be able to mix it up this time around.
I was wondering about this too, potions? I've re-read it a few times and unless im missing something glaringly obvious... I just don't know.
While I'm extremely excited by what I've seen and heard about U4, saying that you're going to make a game that has more sandbox elements than TLoU isn't really saying much. Sure, there were multiple ways to tackle a given situation, but there was also a relatively small area to do it in, with well defined entry and exit points for each scenario. I'm much more excited by what was revealed in the stage demo and Edge/GI articles than I am by this particular comparison.
Edit: Didn't notice the source and should clarify by stating that I was referring to the initial GI article from the magazine.
Edit: Didn't notice the source and should clarify by stating that I was referring to the initial GI article from the magazine.
Potions, magic potions. He just means the tools in your toolbox that are available to you.
SniperHunter
Banned
i totally expected this and wrote about it
I guess I just took that for granted. I've never played any of the Uncharted titles, are they really so linear that the small number of routes available in TLoU was that big of an improvement?
We don't know, I don't think so.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
You could see it in the first UC4 gameplay demo back at PSX. I kept thinking Drake could have totally could have stealth nearly everyone in that area with takedowns, moving around the areas at your whim, hiding in the tall vegetations, have fistacuffs, as well as gun everyone down.
More open level/choices in a tightly controlled area like Metal Gear Solid is always a win in my book then openworld for openworld sake.
More open level/choices in a tightly controlled area like Metal Gear Solid is always a win in my book then openworld for openworld sake.
Everything we've seen so far has looked Uncharted as fuck, an amalgam of many of the key elements I've loved of each of the previous games. Being able to explore a little bit more or change up playstyle won't devalue that. I do the latter on a regular basis in Uncharted anyway.
Uncharted lacks a lot of elements that encourage the same kind of exploration as The Last of Us. There are no crafting materials, Drake's inventory is simply whatever two weapons he's got onhand and his grenades. The only things you need to explore for are treasures (collectibles) and the way forward, and the game is drawn out in a very specific line which doesn't take a lot to follow. As far as enemy encounters go, there are a few that allow for stealth, but most break into regular combat quite quickly, which is fairly basic, though Uncharted has a sort of "shoot-from-anywhere" (ie, while hanging from a ledge, you can shoot. While riding a zip line, you can shoot) design which makes it a little more interesting than other Third Person Shooters. But It never quite gave you the same depth that the set of tools and abilites you had in Last of Us did. It also never provides the same challenge that would require those tools. The AI was much more simplistic, and the solution to most problems posed by the enemy was "shoot it enough times".
For real? Linear corridors, don't let this guy see you, follow this direct path. Go through this sewer. Follow this stairway through this school.
ND isn't known for sandbox, I don't expect UC4 to be that way either. Just COD syndrome of wave after wave until you hear dun dun and can move onto the next chapter.
XxRampage07xX
Member
Love what I've been hearing so far 
SnowFlakeCake
Member
The leads for UC3 were not very good at all, particularity Richmond. Him leaving was the best thing to happen to U4, well second behind the TLOU lads taking over.
NavyPharaoh
Member
Have u played the last of us because u speak like u haven't.
I'm excited by what I've seen and I'm glad the whole game is going this route. Adds replay-ability to SP.
by that definition almost all games can be sandbox
Byronic Hero
Member
Sounds good. Glad I pre-ordered it. TLoU had a good bit to explore.
TsunamiOfSwagger
Member
Cant wait to play.