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Asha Sharma: Next Xbox Project Name: "Helix" - Will 'lead in performance and play your Xbox and PC games'
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Alan Wake
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I can only hope. But I just assumed they were done with physical media altogether. And such an add-on would sell terribly. New Xbox games will only get a digital release, and very few would get a disc drive to play old games.
ReasonBeing
Member
There seems to be much discussion around if this device should be classified as a console or a PC. Ultimately, it's feature set will be its feature set, and I just can't for the life of me understand why it's internal classification at Microsoft would matter in the slightest.
It can be called the shit brick, and if it does what I want it to do, I would be okay with that.
Edit: maybe I'm missing the point. Is the controversy really centering around it's ease of use? If it's going to launch into a Windows home screen?
It can be called the shit brick, and if it does what I want it to do, I would be okay with that.
Edit: maybe I'm missing the point. Is the controversy really centering around it's ease of use? If it's going to launch into a Windows home screen?
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I think that's a fair point, that they could see value in defending windows, but I'm not sure there's enough of a threat there for them.
Unless I'm misreading, 96.6% of steam users are on windows. Would they really be throwing all the resources needed to make custom hardware, market it, etc. Etc. because they're worried about 3.4%? What percentage would the threshold be where they wouldn't launch new hardware to defend their OS?
I'm not convinced, based on the figures and my understanding that I can buy into that argument.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They might be done but if they're proudly claiming it'll retain the library, that should HOPEFULLY include Physical as well.
Cause that's gonna suck if there's no option for that at all.
U n i o n 0015
Member
I find these "we're working on X thing and here's the codename" announcements so utterly boring.
Just show it when it's ready.
Just show it when it's ready.
ReasonBeing
Member
You are correct that SteamOS and Linux are still bit players in the grand scheme of things currently, but when you own an entire market, and intend to keep it that way, you have to play the long game. Microsoft essentially trying to play whack-a-mole to any platform that could in time errode away market share. This is exactly why they brought out the original Xbox in the first place.
Edit: competition would be good, but if we can't have real competition, at least we can have other players forcing Microsoft to make the de facto standard a better experience.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Install the Helix OS onto the Series X.
Keep that box alive for a few more years with old games.
Keep that box alive for a few more years with old games.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Removed by reddit mod. What did it say? Anything new?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It was someone saying that the recent townhall that happened with Satya and Asha, he pledged full financial support for Xbox.
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chromhound
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So it's a PC that can run Xbox?
DragonNCM
Member
That's only thing I don't play....except League of Legends
KungFucius
King Snowflake
I might get one if it is decent. This is only because PC gaming is miserable when it comes to needing to acquire a new GPU. You wait maybe a year when you are ready and then it takes months of trying to find one at "MSRP" if you don't get lucky on day 1.
CentralScrutinizer
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If value in relation to spec in regards to PC components is good, I'm down to get this as my next gaming pc. I don't have an Xbox anymore, but I do still have a big 360 and Xbox 1 library I'd like to have access to again.
Taur007
Member
Bro is really mad about more options
asdasdasdbb
Member
If Sony wants the handheld to sell, the parity requirement has to be there.
Suppose there's nothing stopping Sony from making a Pro SKU as well.
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
PS6 games on PS6bHH is going to be a total mess...
1. No way 3rd party will let you play same code on both. Can you imagine settings menu nightmare? Choosing performance and quality mode for both consoles versions on one software? They gonna collectively say Fuuuuuuck dat!
2. I'm betting they will want to charge say $25 to download HH tweaked code. You won't get HH code for free. It takes too much time and manpower to give that away for free. Sony 1st party stuff? Maybe. 3rd party titles? No way.
1. No way 3rd party will let you play same code on both. Can you imagine settings menu nightmare? Choosing performance and quality mode for both consoles versions on one software? They gonna collectively say Fuuuuuuck dat!
2. I'm betting they will want to charge say $25 to download HH tweaked code. You won't get HH code for free. It takes too much time and manpower to give that away for free. Sony 1st party stuff? Maybe. 3rd party titles? No way.
asdasdasdbb
Member
It won't be tweaked code at all. Sony will just mandate the Lower Power Mode, and that will be what version the handheld runs on.
roosnam1980
Gold Member
if a game releases on both xbox and PC , which version will perform better on HELIX , i would assume the xbox port .
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Now she just needs to announce Blue Dragon Remastered as a launch title and it will be a guaranteed hit. It will sell millions and catapult Xbox to first place.
Come On Tars
Member
wonder what kind of restrictions there will be. The ROG ally I guess was the test
Alan Wake
Member
It will indeed suck. But I won't hold my breath for Microsoft to support physical media i any way. But it'll be interesting to see how they deliver.
sam_sepi0l
Neo Member
nintendo is beating them with a console they made in a cave with a box of scraps
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The bigger deal is all those falcom games will be in Xbox now
And with the good AA, not the fucked up SMAA they ship with on consoles and Flacom for some god forsaken reason isn't arsed enough about.
viveks86
Member
I don't see why they won't have an optional drive for those who care about that.
I do think an inbuilt drive is unlikely though
EverydayBeast
ChatShitGPT Alpha 0.001
They're trying to figure out the pc aspect, Linux was on ps3 but wasn't a difference maker.
asdasdasdbb
Member
You'd only put a disk drive in if you were going to sell physical Magnus games. That's not happening.
viveks86
Member
Agreed. It will be entirely for BC, hence the optional one. Likely external as well. I can see MS standing to gain a lot of goodwill by supporting that.
TronNerd82
Member
I can't wait for it to come to retail and find out Micro$lop gave their console another stupid-ass name. Place your bets. I'm willing to bet they'll probably call it the "Xbox X" or some dumb shit like that, as if the Xbox naming scheme hasn't been convoluted enough since they threw a monkey wrench into the common sense machine in 2013 (or 2005 depending on who you ask).
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
I dont think that will work at all.
It works for PS5, sure bc PS6HH specs can perform close to PS5 LP mode that's being forced on the devs atm (BTW, the compliance is apparently not good at all).
But the gap between PS6 and PS6 HH is HUGE. Even a low power mode for PS6 game code will simply overwhelm the HH. Performance delta is enormous. Devs will have to tweak the code significantly more than a PS5 game code. And that's even more work than the PS5 LP mode code tweak that devs are not complying already.
3rd party devs will not do that work for free. Gamers will have to be charged, otherwise it will be get worst dev support and complaints than the Series S.
asdasdasdbb
Member
I assume that in order to get cert, it will be required at some point. Both PS5 and PS6.
I agree devs are going to complain.
So she doesn't have his full trust either? Or its all just made up fantasy from the fanboys?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ah yes, the mythical War Chest.
Topher
Identifies as young
Probably said some words of support, but this shit was completely made up
reinking
Gold Member
IMO, this has been one of Xbox's biggest problems. They try to control the message with twitter and social media influencers instead of utilizing professional marketing. It has become so fake that the non-believable becomes believable and you can't trust them when they are actually telling the truth. Everything is always overhyped which leads to disappointment. Even the very people that spread the false information end up disappointed. The Series X is a fantastic console. It really is. However, it never held up to the expectations set before launch. I am sure we all remember those claims by the usual suspects. It looks like the cycle is going to be repeated with project Helix.
sainraja
Member
OR a PC that streams Xbox games via the cloud?
sainraja
Member
Steve didn't say without talent. He said and still paraphrasing (sort of) "...company without taste..."
DeltaPolarBear
Member
In the end, the warchest DID exist. It just wasn't bottomless. The Activision purchase finally emptied it. The problem being Activision was worth more than the entire Xbox division, so Xbox was basically in debt to Microsoft HQ by that act.
Just because you could buy it, does not mean you could "afford" it. Xbox bought what they couldn't afford.
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
Would they dare? Dunno. PS5 LP mode compliance will tell us by PS6HH launch I suppose...
I think they already are behind the scenes.
Tobimacoss
Member
Sony will have to mandate PS6 Canis, whereas MS doesn't have to mandate, they can keep it optional. It's because PC or Xbox PC games scale to various hardware.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
That is a nice way for saying "if the software doesn't run properly on your PC, it isn't the studio's problem to fix." As in if it has issues you get to fix it yourself. I should know, i play on PC. Xbox customers are so naive about how it works outside the console ecosystem.
Tobimacoss
Member
Well, that's how it works for the Xbox ecosystem.
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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is Series X|S optimized, that is mandatory. It is also Handheld Optimized, that is optional.
Magnus AT2 is going to act as the preset for the fixed spec hardware for all three ecosystems, Xbox, Steam, Epic, if those devs target that device.
Sony doesn't have that luxury of scalable SKUs. They have at most 3 fixed spec hardwares. They cannot leave the Handheld as optional. But we shall see how Sony handles it.
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DeltaPolarBear
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And Sony can skips all that by just making the handheld the PS5 Portable. That's where i stand as it makes no sense calling it PS6 if it wouldn't end up running that many more games. in the next decade.
