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Sony hikes up PS5 pricing in April: PS5 – $649.99, PS5 Digital Edition – $599.99 PS5 Pro – $899.99, Portal $249.99

ThroatPie said:


They cant possibly do this right?
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Good guy Sony is dead*

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* he never existed
 
Danjin44 said:
Thats part I dont really care since I buy physical copy for 90% of the games which I can trade it and I dont play MP games.

So for me Consoles is still much cheaper option.
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Nothing happens in a vacuum though for players like you the cost is spread to the next person(s). They know who buys what etc. and the percent of who does what. Your purchasing methods also are an outlier to most of their consumers. Many are mostly digital, free to play is big, and a lot of people pay for psplus.
 
Nankatsu said:
PS6 launch about to be delayed. I wouldn't mind to be honest.

With PSSR gearing up, devs can squeeze the console even more.
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What are they supposed to do really?

In terms of next gen the price was going up anyway, it's just going further up. Moore's law is through, we gotta adjust our expectations.
 
SteamNet Platinum Ultra+ tier still costs $0 per year. I don't see how Sony and Microsoft justify the payments they ask for. This hardware hike is unsurprising. I've been saying $1k PS6 for a long time if you want it to be any good. They can't shit directly on their 5 Pro customers, and they're not in a position to take a loss on hardware. I still think the move is rebranding the PS5, releasing a Pro Pro and handheld at some point and settling in for a much longer gen. It just makes more sense for Sony and their customers. It's not like there's some crazy chip out there they can put in a PS6 for under $1k that would be a tangible difference from 5 Pro. At least for the average gamer. There is no technical or market need for a PS6.
 
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simpatico said:
SteamNet Platinum Ultra+ tier still costs $0 per year. I don't see how Sony and Microsoft justify the payments they ask for. This hardware hike is unsurprising. I've been saying $1k PS6 for a long time if you want it to be any good. They can't shit directly on their 5 Pro customers, and they're not in a position to take a loss on hardware. I still think the move is rebranding the PS5, releasing a Pro Pro and handheld at some point and settling in for a much longer gen. It just makes more sense for Sony and their customers. It's not like there's some crazy chip out there they can put in a PS6 for under $1k that would be a tangible difference from 5 Pro. At least for the average gamer. There is no technical or market need for a PS6.
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U greatly underestimate need of possesing brand new shiny next gen console, my friend, for many core gamers when we think of ps6, its this kind of thoughts:
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PeteBull said:
U greatly underestimate need of possesing brand new shiny next gen console, my friend, for many core gamers when we think of ps6, its this kind of thoughts:
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It's the market conditions and audience size that I question. Not the yearn. As someone with 5 human beings raised in my house, I was always curious to watch their interest in gaming. Youngest is 16 and I can't pay her to care about games outside of Minecraft and Roblox, but she plays those like interactive chat rooms more than games. My 20yo got into a lot of single player stuff on PS4, actually would make Herm do a fist pump because she bonded with Horizon big time. But she's not thinking about spending her own money on a PS5 to play the Burning West DLC. In fact she asked for PC parts for Christmas, but the RAM thing knocked that off the rails a bit. I see how a PC offers someone her age and means a lot more value than a console. No monthly fee and you've got a decent video and photo editing rig by default and a nice place to do classwork. When we were young, PSX was our CD player, PS2 was our DVD player etc etc. It doesn't have that anymore whatsoever, and it added a monthly fee. I don't think the effects of that have started to kick in until now. Covid did weird things to this gen and I fear it distorted the cues Sony and MS took from it. PS5 got away with some bullshit that would have hurt them a lot more if MS wasn't completely drunk and everyone didn't have covid bucks and time when the gen started. Son is 18 and I can't see him putting his own money toward upgrading his Series S and 4060 based gaming PC. Put he's very much the typical COD, NCAA Football, GTA5 player. The Series S vs X value prop is laughable to him. (He got the Series S as a gift, and I offered to let him pay the difference for an X)

But get this, the first game my son beat on his own with zero dad input was Batman Arkham Knight (which he did without spending any skill points lmao). I think he was probably 6th or 7th grade. The games coming out now are still pretty much on the level of Arkham Knight, so I don't think that generation ever learned to be excited for gfx upgrade. He's never really seen one like we did. The first game I beat in those conditions would have been on NES, and when I was 18 I was playing Dreamcast and PS2. I had plenty to get me excited for the next scoop.
 
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simpatico said:
It's the market conditions and audience size that I question. Not the yearn. As someone with 5 human beings raised in my house, I was always curious to watch their interest in gaming. Youngest is 16 and I can't pay her to care about games outside of Minecraft and Roblox, but she plays those like interactive chat rooms more than games. My 20yo got into a lot of single player stuff on PS4, actually would make Herm do a fist pump because she bonded with Horizon big time. But she's not thinking about spending her own money on a PS5 to play the Burning West DLC. In fact she asked for PC parts for Christmas, but the RAM thing knocked that off the rails a bit. I see how a PC offers someone her age and means a lot more value than a console. No monthly fee and you've got a decent video and photo editing rig by default and a nice place to do classwork. When we were young, PSX was our CD player, PS2 was our DVD player etc etc. It doesn't have that anymore whatsoever, and it added a monthly fee. I don't think the effects of that have started to kick in until now. Covid did weird things to this gen and I fear it distorted the cues Sony and MS took from it. PS5 got away with some bullshit that would have hurt them a lot more if MS wasn't completely drunk and everyone didn't have covid bucks and time when the gen started. Son is 18 and I can't see him putting his own money toward upgrading his Series S and 4060 based gaming PC. Put he's very much the typical COD, NCAA Football, GTA5 player. The Series S vs X value prop is laughable to him. (He got the Series S as a gift, and I offered to let him pay the difference for an X)

But get this, the first game my son beat on his own with zero dad input was Batman Arkham Knight (which he did without spending any skill point lmao). I think he was probably 6th or 7th grade. The games coming out now are still pretty much on the level of Arkham Knight, so I don't think that generation ever learned to be excited for gfx upgrade. He's never really seen one like we did. The first game I beat in those conditions would have been on NES, and when I was 18 I was playing Dreamcast and PS2. I had plenty to get me excited for the next scoop.
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good ass post.

"When we were young, PSX was our CD player, PS2 was our DVD player etc etc. It doesn't have that anymore"

This really stuck out to me. PS1 and PS2 were when owning a Playstation console from Sony was genuinely cool, both tech wise and culturally. Maybe this is a stretch, but the PS2 being a DVD player as well made it sort of a device for "adults" who also liked videogames, whereas PS5 is kind of just a toy? I know the idea that movies = serious adult medium and videogames = toys for kids is a very outdated concept, but i dunno, I still feel it in some way comparing PS2 vs PS5.
 
Not sure if this was discussed, but why did they increase price of PS Portal too? That uses a Qualcomm 400 series chip with 4 GB ram, that's used in $40 prepaid android phones. Is it just taking advantage of an accessory that's selling decently? OLED Portal will likely be $299 then.
 
ThroatPie said:


They cant possibly do this right?
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Guardian Monkey said:
What were you expecting when the CFO said they were going to extract more from the current userbase?
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MCH2024 said:
An increase is upcoming if you believe Sony CFO.

Honestly I think they will just cancel the annual plan. Using the Per Month Pricing Console Online would be 119.99$ per year not 79.99$
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HerjansEagleFeeder said:
Is this a fake / meme / joke post? 100% increase can't be real?
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Zathalus said:
A doubling of price is probably not on the cards. But I'd assume an eventual price increase of a dollar or two is on the cards eventually, just based on comments made by Sony.
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Dr. Samuel Hayden said:
LMFAO.

Console gaming is utterly fucked. 🤣
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PauloRoberto said:
Doubt it. Annual subscription is WAY easy to keep loyalty.
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FMN said:
Looks like a meme account. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it increases right before GTA drops though. Gotta squeeze everything you can out of the playerbase.
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Botan32 said:
It's a parody account. You just have to look at the other tweets
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Tobimacoss said:
Lol.

I expect Essential to go up to $90 yearly. Extra to $160 yearly, and Premium to $20-$22 month and $200 yearly.

CFO Lin Tao hinted at price increases for PS+.
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//DEVIL// said:
Guys I just bought a PS5 Pro today !



Guys I am going to return the PS5 Pro today !
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Well, some of you need to check his list of people he follows and post history.
 
Hyper_hyper said:
Well, some of you need to check his list of people he follows and post history.
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IIRC, this imbecil said that Apple would buy Sony and ditch Playstation brand, right? 🙃

That being said, i heard other places talking about this increase too, só the price increase in itself is not unexpected...
 
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ToneyJ said:
good ass post.

"When we were young, PSX was our CD player, PS2 was our DVD player etc etc. It doesn't have that anymore"

This really stuck out to me. PS1 and PS2 were when owning a Playstation console from Sony was genuinely cool, both tech wise and culturally. Maybe this is a stretch, but the PS2 being a DVD player as well made it sort of a device for "adults" who also liked videogames, whereas PS5 is kind of just a toy? I know the idea that movies = serious adult medium and videogames = toys for kids is a very outdated concept, but i dunno, I still feel it in some way comparing PS2 vs PS5.
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I think the Steam Machine is actually the closest thing to the value-add experience that I had with consoles at their age. Sony and MS got a little complacent and turned it into a cable box, and that's how young people look at it. In a way it's the last surviving remnant of the Best Buy and Circuit City living room economy. Feels technologically out of place today where value is becoming more important as belts tighten. If you're going to spend $1000 on an APU and some NAND, you probably want that to do as much for you as it can, instead of paying Sony to lock down the capabilities of it. We don't have all the information, but even Magnus seems to have some advantage in that realm. The funny thing is, Sony had the idea for Linux all the way back on PS3, and a fleshed-out version of it would serve them very well in this new market. The instinct was there, and imo it was right. But it's not something they can start putting together in a hurry. I don't know how how they will address that area of the value prop. We're too far down diverging roads now, but how cool could a Valve collaboration have been? But the Sony that would do that only exists in the minds of Sony faithful, which I still count myself among outside the console space. <3 ES anything, the studio headphones and the camera gear.
 


Suck a big fat dick you greedy cunts. Wish you nothing but the worst for taking advantage of your own fanbase. I am done with these greedy, nasty people who are about to take this industry off the cliff.
 
simpatico said:
It's the market conditions and audience size that I question. Not the yearn. As someone with 5 human beings raised in my house, I was always curious to watch their interest in gaming. Youngest is 16 and I can't pay her to care about games outside of Minecraft and Roblox, but she plays those like interactive chat rooms more than games. My 20yo got into a lot of single player stuff on PS4, actually would make Herm do a fist pump because she bonded with Horizon big time. But she's not thinking about spending her own money on a PS5 to play the Burning West DLC. In fact she asked for PC parts for Christmas, but the RAM thing knocked that off the rails a bit. I see how a PC offers someone her age and means a lot more value than a console. No monthly fee and you've got a decent video and photo editing rig by default and a nice place to do classwork. When we were young, PSX was our CD player, PS2 was our DVD player etc etc. It doesn't have that anymore whatsoever, and it added a monthly fee. I don't think the effects of that have started to kick in until now. Covid did weird things to this gen and I fear it distorted the cues Sony and MS took from it. PS5 got away with some bullshit that would have hurt them a lot more if MS wasn't completely drunk and everyone didn't have covid bucks and time when the gen started. Son is 18 and I can't see him putting his own money toward upgrading his Series S and 4060 based gaming PC. Put he's very much the typical COD, NCAA Football, GTA5 player. The Series S vs X value prop is laughable to him. (He got the Series S as a gift, and I offered to let him pay the difference for an X)

But get this, the first game my son beat on his own with zero dad input was Batman Arkham Knight (which he did without spending any skill point lmao). I think he was probably 6th or 7th grade. The games coming out now are still pretty much on the level of Arkham Knight, so I don't think that generation ever learned to be excited for gfx upgrade. He's never really seen one like we did. The first game I beat in those conditions would have been on NES, and when I was 18 I was playing Dreamcast and PS2. I had plenty to get me excited for the next scoop.
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Bro, ur 2 eldest kids are daughters, youngest 16yo is girl too, ofc there is tiny chance of them even being casual gamer, most girls/women dont like our hobby, it is what it is, same way we as males dont like fashion/makeup and playing with barbie dolls most women dont like videogames/cars/playing or watching sports, its simple biology, our brains are wired differently.


Even that small %age of girls/women who like playing videogames usually dont spend their own money to buy those, they simply use dads/brothers/bfs/husbands hardware and software instead which is perfectly fine from my pov ofc- no modern audience, so devs gotta cater to us, males otherwise game gonna flop :D

Our male ancestors were roman legionaires, spartans, vikings, samurais, medieval knights etc, its ingrained deep into our nature to want competition/adventure and do all that manly shit if not irl then at the very least in games we play :messenger_sunglasses:
Ur son beating arkham knight at the age of 13-14yo is super impressive tho(i beat the game too, it was proper decent difficulty lvl game, obviously not sekiro, fk that strickt timing parry shit :messenger_loudly_crying: ).
 
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PeteBull said:
Bro, ur 2 eldest kids are daughters, youngest 16yo is girl too, ofc there is tiny chance of them even being casual gamer, most girls/women dont like our hobby, it is what it is, same way we as males dont like fashion/makeup and playing with barbie dolls most women dont like videogames/cars/playing or watching sports, its simple biology, our brains are wired differently.

Even that small %age of girls/women who like playing videogames usually dont spend their own money to buy those, they simply use dads/brothers/bfs/husbands hardware and software instead which is perfectly fine from my pov ofc- no modern audience, so devs gotta cater to us, males otherwise game gonna flop :D

Our male ancestors were roman legionaires, spartans, vikings, samurais, medieval knights etc, its ingrained deep into our nature to want competition/adventure and do all that manly shit if not irl then at the very least in games we play :messenger_sunglasses:
Ur son beating arkham knight at the age of 13-14yo is super impressive tho(i beat the game too, it was proper decent difficulty lvl game, obviously not sekiro, fk that strickt timing parry shit :messenger_loudly_crying: ).
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My kids all got forced into early teenage jobs. They all got bank accounts early and I could do cool shit like posting: "$25 to weed the mulch beds" into the family group chat and they'd compete or collaborate to get it. They relate their money to sweaty hard work more than most people probably do. But I even see their friends being a less spendy then I was at their age. IDK, their interest is the best anecdotal I've got to how console makers are attracting the younger generation, and it seems to track a little bit with the articles that come out. To get me back into consoles, I want Sony to accept their audience is adults and drop a $1,500 audiophile grade ES badged Playstation. Always dreamed of a Playstation dressed up like an EX receiver.

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or at least make it able to replace a WiiM. I think that is totally reasonable, they'd just have to raise the BOM a bit on those internals and I/O. PS3 was headed that direction and the 4 stripped every bit of it.

www.wiimhome.com

WiiM Ultra | The Ultimate Digital Hub for Your Music

The WiiM Ultra redefines your audio experience by bringing Hi-Res streaming capabilities, advanced room correction, and smart home integration to your existing setup, be it powered speakers or amplifiers. It seamlessly connects with a wide range of devices, offering a versatile audio solution.
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Jesb said:
Steam machine seems to be the right move now. Underpowered or not they haven't lost their minds like everyone else.
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They have been hiding the price and the release date for months for a reason...

We are talking about vaporware at the moment

It won't be a good deal, I can tell you that
 
The only reason I care at all is to play GTA6 early to avoid spoilers, but given the absurd price of the damn thing, waiting for PC or a PS6 makes the most sense, save for spoilers (and people love to spoil Rockstar games, got spoiled on RDRII because I waited for the PC release)

It is surreal to think I may very well skip a PlayStation entirely, I never could have imagined that growing up, I got a PS3 and a PS4 within 6 months of their first releases, but here?
 
Need to keep those profit margins for the share holders, sometimes profits aren't enough profits. We all know they could eat the costs and still make stupid amount of profits.
 
simpatico said:
I think the Steam Machine is actually the closest thing to the value-add experience that I had with consoles at their age. Sony and MS got a little complacent and turned it into a cable box, and that's how young people look at it. In a way it's the last surviving remnant of the Best Buy and Circuit City living room economy. Feels technologically out of place today where value is becoming more important as belts tighten. If you're going to spend $1000 on an APU and some NAND, you probably want that to do as much for you as it can, instead of paying Sony to lock down the capabilities of it. We don't have all the information, but even Magnus seems to have some advantage in that realm. The funny thing is, Sony had the idea for Linux all the way back on PS3, and a fleshed-out version of it would serve them very well in this new market. The instinct was there, and imo it was right. But it's not something they can start putting together in a hurry. I don't know how how they will address that area of the value prop. We're too far down diverging roads now, but how cool could a Valve collaboration have been? But the Sony that would do that only exists in the minds of Sony faithful, which I still count myself among outside the console space. <3 ES anything, the studio headphones and the camera gear.
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Well it was Microsoft that went all in with hdmi in and out on xbox one to tap into that red hot cable tv overlay market.....Just in time for cord cutters to be ditching cable boxes altogether.

And who could forget their attempt to push their $199 hd-dvd attachment/doorstop for the 360 before that.
 
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