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Alanah Pearce - Sony’s Greedy Disc-Killing Move Was Inevitable: The Death of Physical Gaming (And Why Outrage Won’t Stop It)

Doubt it could truly be optimized like a console without being a console. If it is a console that plays Steam games then what PC freedoms are we giving up in the process. Too many questions here. I think whatever they do, it will just be a "reference" device, as Asha said, and the OEMs will take over the Xbox brand, which is fine, but these are the same OEMs that put all kinds of bloatware on Windows. We will see
I'm curious as well. But given MS' track record on delivering, i'm a skeptic.

If its good, i'll buy a console form PC with lots of power for the TV above my fireplace.
 
Threads about Alanah's takes always bring me joy because I know we're gonna get a dozen photos of her best assets.

I don't disagree that the outrage isn't going to persuade Sony to change course. They already said they're willing to lose the physical-only audience because the digital sales have been so much higher.

Where they're losing me is the possibly $1,000+ console. I can stick with my PS5 and other consoles and be just fine; my backlog will keep me busy for years.

Until my PS5 dies and then I either try to replace it or have a PS4 and 5 game collection that collects dust.
 
This is so incredibly obvious that it hurts me that people with a decent IQ don't get it. They are unable to see beyond their fucking noses.

This is just one step in a long ladder that leads to a very dystopian future, not only in videogames but also in more important industries. And you can see how gullible many are. When their favorite brand or political party ask them to open their mouth and swallow whatever they are given, they do obediently, no question asked.
They do it in increments like boiling a frog. Deals and "free" games on subs, key cards and discs that require part or all the game to be downloaded, codes in a box like GTA VI, all leading up to elimination of physical media altogether. Then deleting of movies and hand waving it with ToS bs, taking whole stores offline. Next up $1K+ consoles without disc drives so people with physical collections are left out in the cold concerning BC and enhancements. Eventually we'll get to consoles as a novel or boutique item for the rich or extremely hardcore players. Accelerationism all converging on Compute as a Service and owning nothing, with the ultimate kick in the nuts being that it's all tied to your social credit score. The whole thing I think is sick.
 
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A big part of it was the release of the Pro. Sold my DE and Series X and bought a Pro with disc drive. Kind of got me back into old school feel of console gaming. I've talked about this a bit in other threads, but I really enjoy the aesthetic of console gaming with physical copies. Having a tangible collection of games, selecting a title to focus on, and putting it the system. Good vibes. Don't get me wrong I've always had a pretty decent retro collection with carts and discs of everything from GBA to Saturn, PSX, SNES, GEN, ect. GP and PS+ were altering how I perceived the value of modern games. It doesn't help either that they do shit like key cards and key discs where the game isn't even on the disc.
it's nice that PS5 Pro got you back into physical games but that's what I'm curious about, that you went physical rather than digital when you switched from subs, especially because you were pretty anti-physical/pro-digital over the gens/years. I remember in pretty much all the physical threads, the polls and other pro physical threads:

My X1S has never had a disc put in it and never will. I actually shudder at the thought of a modern physical collection where you have a disc, but still need 50GB+ dl/patches. What's the fucking point? Switch carts...I get that, but digital is the way forward for most.

I'm all digital. When I buy games it's mostly on PC from Steam or gog. I try to download all the EGS free games as a backup library, or to add to GeForce Now. I play Xbox mostly on PC via Game Pass. Also on Steam Deck both locally and via xCloud. I play mostly PS+ Extra games on PS5. Although I'll buy an occasional game like FFXVI.

TLDR:
-Buy on PC
-Xbox and PlayStation via subscriptions

I would have thought you'd just go digital even if you ditched subs especially as you didn't see any price advantage in physical either and hated the clutter. Is it just a nostalgia thing that you chose it over digital or something else? I haven't really seen you talk about your switch over to physical in other threads. Is it the ability to resell everything and not be attached? Its cool that you've got into collecting physical PS5 Pro games again though.
 
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it's nice that PS5 Pro got you back into physical games but that's what I'm curious about, that you went physical rather than digital when you switched from subs, especially because you were pretty anti-physical/pro-digital over the gens/years. I remember in pretty much all the physical threads, the polls and other pro physical threads:

I would have thought you'd just go digital even if you ditched subs especially as you didn't see any price advantage in physical either. Is it just a nostalgia thing that you chose it over digital or something else? I haven't really seen you talk about your switch over to physical in other threads. Is it the ability to resell everything and not be attached? Its cool that you've got into collecting physical PS5 Pro games again though.
I think I explained it pretty well and the proof is in the pudding I've bought around 70 physical console games and countless GoG games over past 18 months.

I'm not sure what you're after at this point, but I'm flattered. Is it that you thought you had a "gotcha" moment only to find I have monstrous physical and GoG purchase habit of about 50 games per year over the past 2 years? :messenger_winking_tongue:
 
I think I explained it pretty well and the proof is in the pudding I've bought around 70 physical console games and countless GoG games over past 18 months.

I'm not sure what you're after at this point, but I'm flattered. Is it that you thought you had a "gotcha" moment only to find I have monstrous physical and GoG purchase habit of about 50 games per year over the past 2 years? :messenger_winking_tongue:
I just asked what changed your mind about physical over digital when switching from subs. I didn't ask for proof of anything I was just curious why you went physical after complaining about clutter, it being pointless due to downloads and having no price advantage. Just wanted to know what the reason for your change in opinion was, nostalgia for that old school collection/switching discs or something else like no attachment, looks like I hit a nerve though. 😄
 
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She's kinda right; the main thing these companies care about is money-in being greater than money-out.

However, based on how much coverage Sony's decision has attracted, Sony is going to lose billions in revenue from people who just won't show up to the PS6. We've been here before with the PS3, and were it not for the company changing leadership, we probably wouldn't be living in a world where PlayStation still exists.

I think Sony expects people to just dumb-buy the PS6, and I think they're in for a rude awakening after the launch period. People aren't stupid. The foundation of the device being anti-consumer will become clear to the mass market, but that's the path that the company is choosing to go down. I wish them well, but I (and I could be wrong) see a future where PlayStation is just not relevant anymore — just like Bravia, Xperia, Handycam, Vaio, Walkman etc.
 
The whole big reveal of Sony this gen is that they aren't the same PlayStation we all knew and loved. Their management is basically running them into the ground thinking loyalty exists regardless. It's not loyalty, it's just assuming when people buy video games; they buy PlayStation. Which blows. I didn't believe it until this year. The writings probably been on the wall for those close and personal with the industry. Part of me hopes they lose big time.
 
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Sony now makes a barely custom PC with a crappy closed system storefront for soon to be over 1000 bucks a machine. One "great business decision" at a time.

I personally preferred custom architecture , boxes that were 1/10th the cost of a PC and still had benefits & competition. It was a lot better.
 
I just asked what changed your mind about physical over digital when switching from subs. I didn't ask for proof of anything I was just curious why you went physical after complaining about clutter, it being pointless due to downloads and having no price advantage. Just wanted to know what the reason for your change in opinion was, nostalgia for that old school collection/switching discs or something else like no attachment, looks like I hit a nerve though. 😄
I just changed my outlook on modern console gaming because of the Pro. Gave me reason to buy on a platform other than PC. And if I was ever going to invest into buying modern console games it would be something tied to good vibes like my retro gaming habits. The aesthetic of console gaming. Don't get me wrong I still buy more games digitally, it's just done on PC where it can be backed and hacked. Hopefully that will put your mind at peace.

Don't shoot!! I buy 50 physical and GoG games a year.
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The problem with Sony is they did not explain what will happen with digital only future especially on ps6. Very vague. Will there be consumer protection? Refund policy? Full ownership? Can it be shared?
 
The problem with Sony is they did not explain what will happen with digital only future especially on ps6. Very vague. Will there be consumer protection? Refund policy? Full ownership? Can it be shared?
They just have nothing to explain. Nothing will change. Refunds, and especially ownership rights, are things that will never improve solely because of platform holders. Not even Valve has addressed the issue of digital ownership. That's a much harder problem because we need laws that establish rights for digital ownership, and sadly, we're still a long way from that.
 
The problem with Sony is they did not explain what will happen with digital only future especially on ps6. Very vague. Will there be consumer protection? Refund policy? Full ownership? Can it be shared?
It's probably best to just assume the worst. Just like the possibility of PS6 having a disc drive add-on for PS4/5 BC and Blu-Ray playback. Not going to happen.
 
The problem with Sony is they did not explain what will happen with digital only future especially on ps6. Very vague. Will there be consumer protection? Refund policy? Full ownership? Can it be shared?
If they had any good news or were thinking of making positive changes they would have done it already. Especially before killing physical or in response to the backlash. They're just hoping the unpaid bootlickers can somehow sway people to stay on board and failing that they'll just make the bootlickers pay more lol.
 
Good question. I don't know. I was thinking they can have two separate boot options. I mean fundamentally, a console is not different than a PC hardware-wise. So, I don't see why we couldn't have 2 boot options. Systems have OS's of their own, but extremely light compared to windows. There probably would be compromises, maybe with mods and such, but if we're talking a decent amount of optimization, that's a big win imo. I can't stand how PC has to power through bad optimization. I'm a PC gamer through and through, but I have to admit, if they make the correct decisions with Helix, and make a user friendly hybrid PC system. I probably will get that for my living room.

I can be a bit of a dreamer, but at least it's optimistic.
I know we are talking about MS here... and they have a tendency to do dumb shit... but how does it in any way benefit MS/Xbox to have a PC/console hybrid that allows gamers to totally bypass their own store and play Windows games (cause that's what they really are) off their Steam app and library?

Fundamentally taking away the one thing Xbox has got going for it as a platform holder. I mean, at least right now they still sell some games on their store within Xbox; imagine a platform holder that doesn't make money at all from all third-party games, because who will bother with the Windows Store when you can just buy your games from Steam?... including Xbox first-party games.

Surely, MS can't be that stupid.
 
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I love the fact that whenever someone creates a thread about Alanah, the assignment attached to such a thread is always executed with masterful precision. A thing of beauty!

Bless them tiddies!
 
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