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Experience Inc has multiple Xbox One titles in development for the West
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Rinãã¨ã
Banned
CEO is a Xbox fanboy.. I wish they release their games on steam.. Since many of their games already are on pc, that includes Stranger of Sword City.
Kresnik258
Member
Won't it be that Students of the Round SRPG sequel they were talking about?
Rinさとり;199101450 said:
I thought it was just that they had more close business connections with Microsoft and the developer contracts were a lot better on the 360. I mean that seems to have changed with the PS4 but I think worldwide publishing is still easy with MS since you seem to only have to submit it to one entity for approval and QA.
The XBO versions are just PC ports I doubt the costs are that high. It's mostly just selling to a bigger audience. The Vita is going to enter end of life at some point they need to have a platform to move to. Maybe they will do PS4 as some point but that would involve a new set of dev kits and probably someone with PS4 experience which would involve more costs then a XBO port.
That1BlackGuy
Member
Great news, hope it pays off for them.
Yeah, seriously. I don't care if they just port stuff already on Vita to Xbone, but there's no chance of me buying one just for their games if they're not on Vita as well.
Maybe it'll just get released the the Xbox One first then it'll come out on other consoles like with what happened with Stranger of Sword City?
Anywho can't wait to see what games they're working on but their press event is in May.
It's bad enough SoSC Vita was pushed back ;___;
Anywho can't wait to see what games they're working on but their press event is in May.
It's bad enough SoSC Vita was pushed back ;___;
Ramzastrife
Member
I am happy about this. I will buy all of their games on XBONE.
paragonpro
Banned
Awesome, i dont like first person drpgs but I bought sword city just to show support for japaneese games on the xbox one.
witchedwiz
Member
Phoenix Fang
Banned
Is it a digital title only? I might buy it just to support.
OniBarubary
Banned
I...do not see this going well.
In the US it is digital only but I think the JPN physical release on XBO has english subs and menu's as well.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yeah digital only in the West. Since apparently the reason is due to not having the capacity to do physical asides from the more obvious which is no US office. Since their English corporate site still lists the Japan address.
The Japanese physical version came out yesterday though.
JoeyJungle
Banned
It's insane that they're doing a Vita and Xbone release for this game. I really don't think that many single-console niche-JRPG fans are buying Xbones, and the Vita isn't exactly the best-selling system either. PS4/PC in addition to the Vita release would make much more sense to me.
Edit:
Holy shit, in JPN this game was released on 360, XBone, Windows (no steam release), and Vita. Is Microsoft funding them 100% or something? I have no idea why they wouldn't release on PS3 given the install base in Japan compared to 360/Xbone.
Edit:
Holy shit, in JPN this game was released on 360, XBone, Windows (no steam release), and Vita. Is Microsoft funding them 100% or something? I have no idea why they wouldn't release on PS3 given the install base in Japan compared to 360/Xbone.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Because the PS3 was a shitshow to develop for. Also you would need to hire a bunch of folks with experience developing for the platform. Since they already have experience working with the PC moving onto the Xbox 360 and One isnt exactly difficult. That and for the most part if you look at the general release history of DRPGs most are on handhelds. As outside of Acquire no one else really bothered with the PS3 and everyone else just did stuff for the portable systems.
They had released Students of Round on the PSP anyways and their other titles on the Vita.
Generally with development roadmaps are already made ahead of time. Since as a smaller company you need to be constantly working on something otherwise you bleed out cash with folks sitting around idle and trying to suddenly schedule a whole project last minute is a nightmare along with coming up with an actual plan for said title.
gar3
Member
Just to rant here but why is it that whenever a JPN console exclusive title comes to an Xbox system it's always either a stupid move on the part of the developers and/or an obvious payola/moneyhat situation from Microsoft? We saw this lord knows how many times with all the shoot 'em ups last generation on Xbox 360. I personally only bought a small number of those 360 shoot 'em ups cause the genre just isn't my cup of tea but I did buy an Xbox 360 console based on the fact Mistwalker was on board the system with Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey so there are fans of Japanese-made stuff buying Microsoft consoles specifically for JPN developed titles. Obviously the PS3 was way more the JPN system of choice same as the PS4 is now but I'm not seeing too many pro-Microsoft and Xbox One posters going into the numerous random JPN PS4-exclusive game announcement topics basically port begging and calling out the devs for being morons.
That said I pre-ordered the physical JPN XB1 version of Stranger of Sword City and will be more than happy to support any additional physical releases of their future titles either on Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo consoles.
That said I pre-ordered the physical JPN XB1 version of Stranger of Sword City and will be more than happy to support any additional physical releases of their future titles either on Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo consoles.
JoeyJungle
Banned
I can understand prioritizing the 360/Xbone releases given their familiarity with the architecture, but it seems crazy that they never invested in a port to PS3 afterwards. Even a sloppy port with poor utilization of the Cell wouldn't really have mattered much as long as it was passing numbers accurately, given it's a dungeon crawler and doesn't really need to maintain any performance.
What I find especially strange is the combination of neglecting PS3 and PS4 in favor of the 360 and Xbone. Ignoring everything else, and accepting that they have a preference toward developing on Microsoft consoles, it seems so strange to me that they wouldn't also have a PS4 port after the Xbone port given their architectural similarity. It's even stranger to me considering Xbone's smaller WW install base and especially their minuscule JPN install base.
Not port begging, just really don't understand how the financial motivation for neglecting Sony consoles given the unpopularity of Microsoft consoles in Japan. I was aware of the Shmup stuff on 360 and never really understood that either, but shmup developers have done stuff that's really strange to me for years (Under Defeat releasing on DC in 2006! Still astounds me)
Chairmanchuck
Member
"Hey. What could be big in the west in terms of JRPGs? PC? I dont know.
Oh. It must be the Xbox One. So many gamers buy an Xbox One for the japanese games. Sure!!!"
Oh. It must be the Xbox One. So many gamers buy an Xbox One for the japanese games. Sure!!!"
GloriousBagel
Banned
I'm lol'ing too lol. There is no hidden motive, EXP just likes to release their games on Xbox systems that's it.
You clearly know how EXP operates huh?
Chairmanchuck
Member
I know they are also developing for PC, so I wonder why they didnt directly say "we have some Steam announcement too for these."
See the SteamDB entry for Swords of a Stranger, where they still deny they are working on it, even though its been worked on almost daily...
GloriousBagel
Banned
Well they aren't going to blow the lid on all of their announcements just yet. EXP games are slowly going to make it to Steam, I think they have potential on Steam. But for now, their focus in the west is console gaming related. Also EXP doesn't bring their games directly it's up to third party pubs to pick up the games, I'm not sure who is working on the PC port of Stranger of Sword City. Could be NISA but I have no clue.
Chairmanchuck
Member
Yeah. According to ESRB its NISA.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Then it comes down to NISA, not EXP.
Everyone talks "potential" and always reference the "similar" games that have made it well.
There's a gulf of difference in the games that have made it well. It isn't enough just to have a solid game. It isn't enough to have a few forum posters talk well about it. Unfortunately a real social presence is needed and a really good community that can blow the trumpets. Nothing they have. The lewds did well....well probably because of the lewd.
And that's not talking how different the games presents themselves either.
Don't get me wrong. I would love for, nearly, all companies to flourish. I just don't see them invading that space. Yet.
In this particular case it's probably because the XBO actually had a month where it sold less than 100 units in Japan. It's trending far below even the X360. I doubt that is solid enough sales for even a niche series. I think that is probably why they are aiming for the international XBO userbase. I am sure the international sales will determine their targeted platforms in the future. Also people do go into JPN exclusive threads and say it is stupid to release games only on that platform with most saying it should be on Vita or PC as well.
I think it's just familiarity as well. They know the Xbox Japan team well and they know DirectX well. I mean it's like Sony getting some ex harmonix employees projects because they hired John Drake.
It went well for Cave and Mistwalker... right?
I guess if you have the capabilities to release it on another platform, why not? There's probably some reason why Japanese devs keep choosing the Xbox even though the console embodies the word 'failure' in that market. I'm way too uninformed to have the slightest of what it is, though.
I guess if you have the capabilities to release it on another platform, why not? There's probably some reason why Japanese devs keep choosing the Xbox even though the console embodies the word 'failure' in that market. I'm way too uninformed to have the slightest of what it is, though.
Do you have a source for this? I remember reading that as well but I can't find anything on google.
MS Japan good with small/indie devs? I believe it's mostly about good relationship. Like Kojima with Sony.
Yeah. I remember Mistwalker being Microsoft's big push for Japanese games on the Xbox aside from buying exclusivity of Tales of Vesperia. Still stings a bit since Tales of Vesperia PS3 never came out in the west and was a superior version.
Didn't know about the Cave thing, though. A shame since they make such fantastic SHMUPs. I bet Sony would be a lot more receptive to Cave in today's market, but they seem to be doing their own thing and are embracing Steam in more recent times, which seems like the right move for such a niche company without them needing to lower themselves to going back to Sony.
Niche genres as a whole seem to be lacking a stable home in today's market. The Vita is seemingly the best place for them at the minute, but I'd imagine that market is slowly eroding as time passes and no-one else will buy one. Steam is being overrun with low-budget games of varying quality so niche titles are getting increasingly lost in the crowd, regardless of quality, and the consoles never seem to generate much hype around smaller releases any more.
Both the highest and lowest ends of the market seem to be more tenuous than they ever have been for developers.
gar3
Member
Like with Soul Hackers on PlayStation in the US it is just one of the many unsubstantiated rumors of its generation but it is no more or less valid than the tired Micro$oft moneyhat statements. Best one can find is a Siliconera interview from back in the day:
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/0...-maybe-ps3-probably-not-and-a-social-shooter/
EDIT - There's a blurb about the difficulties with Sony during the PS2-era from a translated interview with Ikeda:
http://gaming.moe/?p=757
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/0...-maybe-ps3-probably-not-and-a-social-shooter/
EDIT - There's a blurb about the difficulties with Sony during the PS2-era from a translated interview with Ikeda:
http://gaming.moe/?p=757
The source was Mihara from Arika, the company that was porting their games to PS2 at the time--he said he wanted to put out a certain Cave game during the PS3 launch window but Sony knocked back his application because they thought releasing such a "low-quality" game at retail would reflect poorly on the PS3. (That game did eventually get a retail release on PS3 many years later and it was the only Cave game to do so.)
I can't remember if he posted it on his blog or if it came up during an interview but it was a Japanese post, for sure.
So it's a combination of being familiar with MS and the ps3 being a batshit architecture. Yeah I swear I read something about Sony not working with them well but I can't find the source anywhere. Maybe I just read it on a forum back in the day.
Woot thanks I knew I had seen it somewhere. Sounds like the same thing they were pulling with Working Designs and Growlanser.
CertifiedFP
Member
So, basically Crazy Ken pissing off developers?
Man, imagine how much more smoothly the PS3 would have gone if Sony wasn't in a Pick and Choose attitude from their virtual monopoly on gaming 6th gen. I really hope that their trajectory with the PS4 thus far doesn't lead to them returning to the attitude they had at the beginning of 7th gen.
JoeyJungle
Banned
I didn't realize that was applied to consoles too. They had some really weird policies about releasing on PSP back in the day, iirc SCEA wouldn't allow any ports that didn't have substantial changes, so US never got Breath of Fire 3 psp, and I don't think the Power Stone compilation ever made it to the west.