Draugoth
Gold Member
What can you tell me about when we’ll hear more on the new “Tomb Raider” and “The Lord of the Rings” games, and when those titles will be released?
via Variety
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Amazon Games reading to join AAA market with ‘Tomb Raider,’ ‘Lord of the Rings’ and more
What can you tell me about when we’ll hear more on the new “Tomb Raider” and “The Lord of the Rings” games, and when those titles will be released?
via Variety
Švejk
Member
I'd rather they just do nothing with the IPs. Both already on the verge of being overly tainted. Just Remake/Remaster the old entries and call it a day.
Thinking about it now, I would tip drill the shit out of a full-on Remake of the EA LOTR action slashers; Two Towers and ROTK in UE5. Got damn.
Thinking about it now, I would tip drill the shit out of a full-on Remake of the EA LOTR action slashers; Two Towers and ROTK in UE5. Got damn.
Jeff Bezos is the second chance, it's written all over his face, watch other shows and tv series, you can't go wrong with Amazon.
What can you tell me about when we’ll hear more on the new “Tomb Raider” and “The Lord of the Rings” games, and when those titles will be released?
via Variety
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Fbh
Member
I really feel like a proper, somewhat grounded AAA Lord of The Rings game made in the visual style of the Peter Jackson movies could be an "easy" smash hit.
But I'm sure they'll find a way to fuck it up. It's either going to be Fortnite-ified, or full of Marvel writing, or some boring MMO for modern audiences made in the style of Rings of Power
But I'm sure they'll find a way to fuck it up. It's either going to be Fortnite-ified, or full of Marvel writing, or some boring MMO for modern audiences made in the style of Rings of Power
Lunarorbit
Member
Yeah they should really chill on the tomb raider ip for a bit. No one is excited for it. The series was rebooted a few years ago and each subsequent release had fewer sales: ~15 million, then 12, and finally 9 million.
Those are good sales numbers..... until you see they spent $135-160 million on the last game.
I don't trust any of these mega companies jumping in to video game production.
Those are good sales numbers..... until you see they spent $135-160 million on the last game.
I don't trust any of these mega companies jumping in to video game production.
LavitzSlambert
Member
I get feeling they got into the big budget licensed games market at the absolute worst time possible, and Amazon (like other big tech) will cut their losses quickly if they don't have any hits on their hands. I'm not writing them off yet, just measured expectations.
Now what I'd REALLY like is another LotR: The Third Age, which was a super underrated FFX clone. It was way better than it should have been, up there with the hack-n-slash LotR games.
Now what I'd REALLY like is another LotR: The Third Age, which was a super underrated FFX clone. It was way better than it should have been, up there with the hack-n-slash LotR games.
intbal
Member
They don't.
It's still owned by Embracer. Amazon just purchased production rights.
MrRibeye
Member
Check out the lore on Legolas and Gimli:
"After Aragorn's death, Legolas made a ship in Ithilien and left Middle-earth to go over the sea. His strong friendship with Gimli promoted Legolas to invite him to accompany him to the Undying Lands, making him the first and only Dwarf to do so. He was never seen again in Middle-earth."
^this is so siiick
Imagine co-op dude bro action as a 3rd-person game in the style of God of War, but you play as Legolas and Gimli and enjoy their hilarious banter as they travel to Helm's Deep -> Glittering Caves -> Fangorn Forest -> Ithilien -> Undying Lands.
"After Aragorn's death, Legolas made a ship in Ithilien and left Middle-earth to go over the sea. His strong friendship with Gimli promoted Legolas to invite him to accompany him to the Undying Lands, making him the first and only Dwarf to do so. He was never seen again in Middle-earth."
^this is so siiick
Imagine co-op dude bro action as a 3rd-person game in the style of God of War, but you play as Legolas and Gimli and enjoy their hilarious banter as they travel to Helm's Deep -> Glittering Caves -> Fangorn Forest -> Ithilien -> Undying Lands.
Angry_Megalodon
Gold Member
Given Amazon's policies and production guidelines, it's impossible they can make any good game. If anything, they will take AAAs to new lows.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Speaking from first-hand experience, Amazon philosophically does not and will never understand games. They don't know what makes them fun, what makes them successful, or how to plan long-term. Look at their track record over the last decade. There is zero chance of them doing anything positive with these IPs.
leizzra
Member
Well, few years ago they could have had a game from 3rd party studio. Just in line with Rings of Power. They decided that they’ll do it themselves. It’s half of 2024 and they still have no game.
Maybe it’s for the better. Their series is awful and the license that they posses makes many problems for proper game in Tolkien universe.
Maybe it’s for the better. Their series is awful and the license that they posses makes many problems for proper game in Tolkien universe.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Give me great open-world LOTR action-adventure RPG games, and take all the money I have!
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Bernardougf
Gold Member
Anyone asking amazon for a new good Lotr game really should take a look what they are doing with their tv series.... I wish they just stay the fuck away from anything LOTR related
Anyone expecting to play something classic and good as their favorite hero are in for a rude awakening....
Anyone expecting to play something classic and good as their favorite hero are in for a rude awakening....
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO and NO.
What's wrong with gamers these days? And this shit permeates into even the developers too. Rather than actually buckle down and make great good games, we ask for remakes and remasters. Because we are more comfortable playing old shit than something entirely new. And the devs unfortunately feed into this shit. Eg... rather than Konami making an actual New MGS game, or hell even rebooting the series or something, they are pouring in tons of resources into remaking Snake Eater.
There is so much they can do with both of those IPs, if they do it right. And I don't know about you and others, but I would rather see something new or different, even on those IPs, than see yet another remake or remaster. And if we cant trust devs to do that, then they shouldn't be in this business to begin with.
Fuck man.... gamers are really as unimaginative as the devs.
Dazraell
Gold Member
If I understood the legal hoops correctly, WB owns all of the rights to all of the visual aspects of the LotR and Hobbit movies. So while other companies can acquire a licence to do a game based on this IP, they can't use fragments from the movie nor any visuals that came from it like designs of the setpieces or likenesses of the actors who played certain characters. So if remake of these games would happen, they would either need to make everything "visually distinct" or negotiate a licence not only from Embracer (for LotR brand), but also from WB (for visuals). Best what we can get is probably a PS Classics re-release, which I assume may also be problematic as rights are split between Embracer, WB and EA
StereoVsn
Member
In theory a proper RPG based on LoTR would be an easy slam dunk. In practice Amazon is going to shit all over it with “modern writing for modern audiences” and the game will inevitably crash and burn.
And the less that can be said of Amazon’s prospects with Tomb Raider, the better.
And the less that can be said of Amazon’s prospects with Tomb Raider, the better.
Švejk
Member
It's really hard, almost impossible, to have faith in these giant corpos making decisions on these well crafted and thoughtful, classic IPs.
Look how they handled all these comic book movie games the past decade. Absolutely abysmal. (Not that I care about comic books and their spandex laden shit anyhow)
Overall, it's better they try and make a new IP, instead of ruining what is masterclass, even further.
I would love for an original LOTR take from Silmarillion lore, but do you see what the shitty Rings of Power is doing? Shoehorning shit in there that shouldn't be? If you don't, then you're part off the problem.
Švejk
Member
Ugh.. Probably right... Same legal hoops GoldenEye struggled to get through.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Tolkein's estate is super protective of the IP in general. I've talked to several developers either making or who were looking to make a game based on LOTR, and there's a ton of limitations on what anyone can do with the license. That's why Daedalic ended up making a game focused entirely on Gollum that had no real relation to what people actually care about in LOTR.
