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[Draugoth]

Edit: Not Unavailable on Steam only Green Man Gaming

This is false, the game is not delisted. You can clearly see here that there are no region restrictions. The fact that GreenManGaming refused to sell it due to the requirement of the PSN account for the multiplayer is irrelevant. That's an issue with GreenManGaming, NOT WITH STEAM.

https://steamdb.info/sub/962153/info/

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Ghosts of Tsushima will be no longer available in countries without PSN, even if you just want to play singleplayer.

The news was sent by Green Man Gaming. Players who purchased on Steam key resellers will be refunded

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[vaibhavpisal]

Clowns

Should work on allowing PSN accounts everywhere. Cannot imagine it being that hard.

 

[JCK75]

Sony was killing it.. and then they had to be stupid.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Clowns

Should work on allowing PSN accounts everywhere. Cannot imagine it being that hard.

Probably not worth it from a profits perspective.

Otherwise they would have done it long ago.

 

[The Cockatrice]

This is just a GMG issue? Sucker Punch confirmed you dont need a PSN for singleplayer so why would they block it in countries without, ESPECIALLY after the whole Helldivers bs?

 

[Maddoxswe]

Really unfortunately his is not available everywhere

 

[TheUsual]

"Why aren't we reaching a bigger PC audience like we thought?" says Sony...sometime down the road.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

This is just a GMG issue? Sucker Punch confirmed you dont need a PSN for singleplayer so why would they block it in countries without, ESPECIALLY after the whole Helldivers bs?

They probably don't want to sell a game in a region where you cannot use all the features.

 

[ozz ex machina]

For those countries there is always

Yup - DRM free sony is godlike. Considering I own them on console it's hard to justify paying again just so the game can run at an acceptable framerate unlike the console counterpart...not that I'd ever pirate myself.

 

[Holammer]

If that's the case, the PSN/overlay is so heavily integrated they don't have any other choice.
Ghost now runs the risk of becoming another under-performer like Returnal, a write-off.

 

[Mr Moose]

If that's the case, the PSN/overlay is so heavily integrated they don't have any other choice.
Ghost now runs the risk of becoming another under-performer like Returnal, a write-off.

It's required for the MP portion of the game, they'd need to sell it without MP.

 

[Edder1]

Sony self sabotaging is so funny to watch, lol. I mean here you are having your best PC launch ever and one of your most successful games of all time and then you go and throw it all away with stupid PSN account subscription that is not available in most of the world.

 

[nikos]

What do countries without PSN do on PS5?

I'd imagine VPN or play physical games offline, without updates. Seems like a horrible experience, even for single player games, considering most have a day one patch.

 

[Braag]

73 countries support PSN and 118 don't.
Sony needs to bump those numbers up.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

 

[Topher]

Sony, what are you doing?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Probably not worth it from a profits perspective.

Otherwise they would have done it long ago.

This is the actual answer.

We're not talking about a lot of sales in these regions in the first place, but yeah Sony should absolutely setup shop and spend the resources on legal to do this said gamer who doesn't know anything about business.

 

[nikos]

73 countries support PSN and 118 don't.
Sony needs to bump those numbers up.

Have you seen the list of countries without PSN? Not much of a loss, especially considering Sony's benefit of integrating PSN in countries where it's available.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Why does the title say Steam when it’s GMG who stopped selling keys?

 

[Hudo]

What do countries without PSN do on PS5?

Well, apparently these countries can get fucked.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Just fucking remove the requirement you clowns.

Rules for thee but not for me - Arrowhead Studios

 

[FoxMcChief]

Jesus Sony. Couldn’t even give MS a full week alone of bad press, were you feeling left out?

 

[ssringo]

 

[StereoVsn]

This is the actual answer.

We're not talking about a lot of sales in these regions in the first place, but yeah Sony should absolutely setup shop and spend the resources on legal to do this said gamer who doesn't know anything about business.

Yet somehow Valve or Nintendo manage to do better. Not to even mention MS. This is another self-own.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

BUT MUH MONTHLY ACTIVE USERRRRRRRRRSSSSS

 

[john2gr]

This is false, the game is not delisted. You can clearly see here that there are no region restrictions. The fact that GreenManGaming refused to sell it due to the requirement of the PSN account for the multiplayer is irrelevant. That's an issue with GreenManGaming, NOT WITH STEAM.

https://steamdb.info/sub/962153/info/

 

[GHG]

BUT MUH MONTHLY ACTIVE USERRRRRRRRRSSSSS

Engagement is oxygen bro.

 

[BiohazardX95]

What do countries without PSN do on PS5?

I'd imagine VPN or play physical games offline, without updates. Seems like a horrible experience, even for single player games, considering most have a day one patch.

They just create an USA account and Buy physical games or PSN cards, it's not a hard thing to do and You don't need vpn.

 

[simpatico]

Sony refuses to let Microsoft be the only major player who shoots themself in the foot daily. Hold my beer.

 

[Shifty1897]

Ah shit, here we go again.

 

[jm89]

They were never going to back off on requiring PSN account on PC.

Helldivers was the exception as they were dumb enough to introduce it after people bought it.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Ah shit, here we go again.

 

[simpatico]

This is just a GMG issue? Sucker Punch confirmed you dont need a PSN for singleplayer so why would they block it in countries without, ESPECIALLY after the whole Helldivers bs?

Preemptively avoiding refund requests when players notice they're locked out of features. Steam can better absorb that amount of CS than a tiny outfit like GMG.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

ArtHands it's okay you can come out of hiding for this

 

[FunkMiller]

Absolute fucking clown shoes from a company that's fallen of a cliff in terms of competency, customer support and value for money.

They are SO fucking lucky their main competition is even worse.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

MS does some stupid shit and Sony is like...

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Something tells me these nameless countries aren't large videogame markets anyway.

 

[nikos]

So is anybody who's complaining actually from a country where PSN isn't available?

 

[Calverz]

This is ridiculous. Like just remove the psn functionality for those countries.

 

[nikos]

They just create an USA account and Buy physical games or PSN cards, it's not a hard thing to do and You don't need vpn.

I'd imagine they could just do the same with the PC version.

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

Just move to another country that has PSN. Not that difficult.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Yet somehow Valve or Nintendo manage to do better. Not to even mention MS. This is another self-own.

So let me get the right, because one business wastes money another business should waste their money as well or its a self own?

Do you think Sony was setting up PSN around the world and just decided they were tired and needed to take a nap?

They have other priorities. If they really thought they were missing out on a lot of money, they would have PSN up in these areas. They still sell PS5s in these areas and you can still buy games on disc in these areas and Sony knows how many people are buying in these areas. They have all the data they need to make an informed decision.

 

[Topher]

So is anybody who's complaining actually from a country where PSN isn't available?

Why do people have to be personally affected to point out something that is stupid?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Something tells me these nameless countries aren't large videogame markets anyway.

Those 118 additional countires are probably just a myth anyway

 

[rhodesianshepard]

I wonder if Steam will do this for all publishers that require you to make an account. Nobody has access to every country in the world. Where is the line drawn? It seems kind of bullshit if Steam are only going after Sony

 

[Topher]

This is false, the game is not delisted. You can clearly see here that there are no region restrictions. The fact that GreenManGaming refused to sell it due to the requirement of the PSN account for the multiplayer is irrelevant. That's an issue with GreenManGaming, NOT WITH STEAM.

https://steamdb.info/sub/962153/info/

Hmmm, could be right. here is the same page for Helldivers 2 and it shows the countries where you cannot buy that game (which is also stupid considering PSN is no longer required).

https://steamdb.info/sub/1018492/info/

This might just be a GMG fuck up.

 

[GHG]

Something tells me these nameless countries aren't large videogame markets anyway.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

They were never going to back off on requiring PSN account on PC.

Helldivers was the exception as they were dumb enough to introduce it after people bought it.

Arrowhead disabled it because of the server problems. Ironically, this might have at least slowed early adoption.

All this flack Sony was getting, it should have been on Arrowhead.

Although, I would love to understand why Sony published the game in areas that don't have PSN. Major oversight for the Publisher in that sense, but again it's a complication that many probably wouldn't understand since they were initially publishing games without PSN requirement. Seems like sloppy implementation.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Common sense after Helldivers 2 clustefuck: Make PSN account and Steam linking optional for those who need it

Sony: Are you serious? Fuck all that! We'll enforce PSN account on everyone and for every other game one way or the other and no matter what, cry like a poor innocent baby and then revert the whole thing after a few days of review bombing and say that we're still learning, please understand

 

[Topher]

I wonder if Steam will do this for all publishers that require you to make an account. Nobody has access to all every country in the world. Where is the line drawn? It seems kind of bullshit if Steam are only going after Sony

Publishers set the countries where their games are sold, not Valve.