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No charges for Milwaukee officer who shot man 14 times

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/22/police-shooting-milwaukee/207600

A former Milwaukee police officer will not be charged with a crime for the shooting death of a 31-year-old man with a history of mental illness, the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office announced Monday.

The April 30 shooting of Dontre Hamilton in a downtown park by Officer Christopher Manney inspired a series of protests in Milwaukee, including one over the weekend that led to dozens of activists being arrested after shutting down I-43.

Manney shot Hamilton 14 times during an incident that occurred after workers at a nearby Starbucks called police to complain about him sleeping in Milwaukee's Red Arrow Park.

"This was a tragic incident for the Hamilton family and for the community," District Attorney John Chisholm said in a statement. "But, based on all the evidence and analysis presented in this report, I come to the conclusion that Officer Manney's use of force in this incident was justified self-defense and that defense cannot be reasonably overcome to establish a basis to charge Officer Manney with a crime."

The decision comes weeks after prosecutors in Missouri and New York cleared officers in high-profile cases in which police used force in Ferguson, Mo., and Staten Island that have spurred nationwide protests and anger over treatment of African Americans by law enforcement.

The debate over police and relations with the African-American community escalated after the killing of two New York City police officers on Saturday by a man who cited his anger about the Michael Brown and Eric Garner cases on social media.

Jonathan Safran, an attorney for the Hamilton family, said they were "extremely disappointed" with the decision and that the case "cries out for justice, criminal charges against Christopher Manney, and accountability to Dontre Hamilton's family." Safran also called on the Justice Department to investigate whether Hamilton's civil rights were violated by Manney.

"The federal government knows that justice has to come to the people," said Nate Hamilton, the brother of Dontre Hamilton, at afternoon news conference.

Nate Hamilton added: "The people have been calm. The people have not stood up. So when will we stand up?"

The ACLU of Wisconsin also blasted the decision.

"If Officer Christopher Manney did not violate the law, then is anyone legally responsible for Mr. Hamilton's death?" the civil liberties group said in a statement. "Does the criminal law protect individuals like Mr. Hamilton from deadly force exercised by police officers? Are police officers above the law?"

Manney showed up to Red Arrow Park after receiving a voice mail from his acting desk sergeant about "a homeless guy sleeping" in the park and asked him to respond, according to a report from Chisholm's office.

At the time of the call, Manney was handling another unrelated incident and two other officers were dispatched to the park, but Manney was unaware of it. The two other officers checked on Hamilton twice and determined he wasn't doing anything wrong. Hamilton's family said he had battled schizophrenia and stopped taking his medication shortly before the shooting.

When Manney arrived in the park after the other officers had left, he said, he found Hamilton laying on the ground in the park and asked him to stand up. He said that Hamilton then stood up and turned his back to him. The police officer began patting-down Hamilton.

As Manney was conducting the frisk, he told investigators, Hamilton twisted his body so he was facing Manney.

Manney, who says Hamilton's right hand was balled in a fist, said he tried to disengage from Hamilton, according to the DA's report.

Hamilton lunged and then tried to strike Manney with his fist, according to the police officer's account. Manny blocked the punch and struck Hamilton with an open palm to the chin. Hamilton then grabbed Manney in the shoulder area, pulling the police officer towards him and struck him on the right side of his head, the report said.

At that point, Manney felt he was losing control of the situation and decided to use his wooden baton on Hamilton.

"Manney separated from Hamilton, removed his baton with his left hand and transferred it to his right hand," the report said. "When Hamilton continued to be aggressive, Manney struck him once in the rib area with the baton. Manney states that Hamilton trapped his baton between his arms and his torso and spun away from Manney. Manney attempted to retain control of his baton but could not."

Manney also told investigators that he attempted to hit the emergency button on his radio but couldn't reach it because of the struggle. As he tried to push away from Hamilton, Manney said, he felt a blow from his baton on the right side of his neck.

He told investigators that he felt he was out of options and decided to draw his weapon in the hope that Hamilton would stop. But he said Hamilton continued to approach wielding the baton.

"Manney fired his weapon but it did not seem to have any effect on Hamilton, so he continued to fire while walking backwards from Hamilton," according to Manney's account to investigators. "Hamilton fell forward and Manney continued to fire because he perceived Hamilton still to be a threat. He stopped firing when Hamilton was completely on the ground."


Chisholm said that a review of the incident by an outside expert on use of force by police, Emanuel Kapelsohn, concluded that Manney's decision to fire his weapon was in line with his training.

"The Dontre Hamilton incident is quite unusual in that P.O. Manney appears to have tried every level of force on the Force Option Continuum before resorting to deadly force," Kapelsohn wrote in his report.

As part of his report, the district attorney also released an autopsy sketch, detailing Hamilton's wounds, as well as summaries of accounts from witnesses in and around the park that saw all or parts of the incident. Investigators heard conflicting accounts from witnesses who said that Manney continued to shoot Hamilton after he had fell to the ground.

But the autopsy revealed no conclusive evidence that any of the shots were fired while Hamilton was prone.


Police Chief Edward Flynn fired Manney in October, stating that the officer had identified Hamilton as mentally ill, but ignored department policy and treated him as a criminal by frisking him.

The Milwaukee Police Association condemned Manney's firing as politically motivated, and members voted no confidence in Flynn soon after the firing.

Manney is currently appealing his dismissal.

Gov. Scott Walker has put Wisconsin National Guard troops on standby in case there is unrest in Milwaukee. He told reporters in Appleton on Monday that he didn't anticipate the violence, but had the troops ready out of abundance of caution.

"It's one of the great things about living in America—people have the right to protest," Walker said. "They just don't have the right to put other people's lives at risk. I'm just asking that they be mindful of that."
 
Do they have stun guns?

I understand the officer was put in a difficult position here.
He still had to approach the man and deal with the situation.

And his baton was of no use as the man more or less took it from him.

The bullet count seems excessive. But considering the man's mental condition, it's not unreasonable to suspect that the man might have kept fighting until his body could not physically move anymore.

Unfortunate incident.
 

bigkrev

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Yep, reading the report, and having the evidence (autopsy report showing no bullets entering body after it was down, injuries on the officer consistant with his story), he was well within his rights to fire on the man.

The only issue comes from 2 places- if the Frisk was legal, and why he was going to the scene when 2 other officers had already reported to it.
 
In another article I saw, the DA says "there were simply no other options," but there were two cops who arrived before him who already showed us another way to handle this.
 

kirblar

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In another article I saw, the DA says "there were simply no other options," but there were two cops who arrived before him who already showed us another way to handle this.
It's very likely that the aggravated reaction may have come as a result of him following on the heels of the previous interactions.
 

Chumly

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In another article I saw, the DA says "there were simply no other options," but there were two cops who arrived before him who already showed us another way to handle this.

Well unfortunately legally he was probably within his rights to defend himself. I doubt that they can charge him with manslaughter or anything due to negligence in frisking him. Sounds like its only a department policy that they shouldn't be frisking people that are not suspected criminals.
 
I don't understand how you can unload 14 shots into someone. This "seemed to have no effect" thing comes up in all of these discussions. 14 shots had no effect? Really? It seems like the suspect was aggressive and the officer didn't first resort to his gun which is good minimally.
 

mjc

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If the reports are to be believed, deadly force was probably necessary given how it escalated. But 14 shots is about eight galaxies away from being ok.
 

see5harp

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At least the officer was fired in this case. It's absurd that the police union would even argue for the sort of officer ineptitude.
 

KHarvey16

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If the reports are to be believed, deadly force was probably necessary given how it escalated. But 14 shots is about eight galaxies away from being ok.

If deadly force is justified you shoot until the threat is stopped. If the autopsy supports the conclusion he wasn't shot while on the ground and prone, it would seem that 14 can't be shown to be excessive.
 

Epic Drop

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Yep, reading the report, and having the evidence (autopsy report showing no bullets entering body after it was down, injuries on the officer consistant with his story), he was well within his rights to fire on the man.

The only issue comes from 2 places- if the Frisk was legal, and why he was going to the scene when 2 other officers had already reported to it.

As someone who lives in Milwaukee, I might be able to help with the second question. At the time of the incident, our local media reported that the officer responded because he was dispatched there. The employees at the Starbucks he was sleeping outside of kept calling the police department over and over because they were concerned that nothing was being done each time the other two officers responded. Dispatch didn't recognize that this was the same situation that two officers had already responded to, and so they sent Mr. Manny.

Obviously the situation is extremely sad, but based on the evidence I can't conclude that Mr. Manny should be criminally charged with anything. I can only hope that the protests in Milwaukee are less destructive than those in Ferguson.
 

Bessy67

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If the reports are to be believed, deadly force was probably necessary given how it escalated. But 14 shots is about eight galaxies away from being ok.
I mean, he was being beat over the head with his own club. I suspect fearing for his life is the main reason he emptied his clip.
 

Koomaster

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I don't understand why there was an incident at all. If the guy strikes you, you don't have to start beating him with your baton. How about disengage; back away from the man and call for assistance. Observe to make sure he's not hurting himself or anyone else in the meantime. Talk to him if possible and assess the situation.

There is no need to keep escalating violence till you end up killing someone.
 

Ric Flair

Banned
I don't understand why there was an incident at all. If the guy strikes you, you don't have to start beating him with your baton. How about disengage; back away from the man and call for assistance. Observe to make sure he's not hurting himself or anyone else in the meantime. Talk to him if possible and assess the situation.

There is no need to keep escalating violence till you end up killing someone.

What if the guy starts running at him? It's well within the officers rights to protect himself and the lives of those around him.
 
This... Doesn't seem that bad honestly. He shouldn't have initiated the frisk for sure but after that he was protecting himself after being disarmed. 14 shots sounds like a lot (a hell of a lot) but when you're scared for your life ehhhh
 

Paskil

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Yeah, I've been following this story since the termination/no confidence vote and as terrible as the situation is, this seems to be a scenario where the escalation was justified. As previously noted, 14 shots is a lot, but my understanding is that they are trained to shoot until the target is on the ground, in the life threatening situations.

Although tragic, I think his dismissal is justified and criminal charges are not. This is a far cry from Eric Garner.
 

JoeBoy101

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Yep, reading the report, and having the evidence (autopsy report showing no bullets entering body after it was down, injuries on the officer consistant with his story), he was well within his rights to fire on the man.

The only issue comes from 2 places- if the Frisk was legal, and why he was going to the scene when 2 other officers had already reported to it.

Agreed with this. I'd be ready to jump down the Cop's throat, but if the account is true, and without any contradictory evidence or testimony we have to assume it is, the Cop didn't immediately go for his gun, instead starting with fists, moving to a non-lethal weapon, and then to a lethal weapon. That's showing more restraint than I have read from many cops these days.
 
I don't understand how you can unload 14 shots into someone. This "seemed to have no effect" thing comes up in all of these discussions. 14 shots had no effect? Really? It seems like the suspect was aggressive and the officer didn't first resort to his gun which is good minimally.

People need to stop with this argument. Handguns are notorious for not stopping a threat after even several rounds strike a target. Even rounds hitting vital organs will often times not immediately put a motivated attacker out of the fight. Instant drops with a handgun are usually limited to spinal cord or head shots.

Deadly force means exactly that. You fire until you the attacker is no longer perceived as a threat. Many times that means you pull the trigger until the gun goes click.

This is an FBI report on handgun calibres and stopping power.

http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf
 
What if the guy starts running at him? It's well within the officers rights to protect himself and the lives of those around him.
How do officers in countries with strict gun laws deal with a guy that is fighting or running towards them? Where the police force has limited or no access to guns?
 

Saganator

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Sooo basically the cop was losing a fight and instead of backing away and calling for backup, he escalates the situation by pulling a gun. I thought the police was trained in hand to hand combat? Perhaps police officers should spend less time in the gun range, and more time learning maneuvers to put people into submission (other than choking).

Mental illness is severely misunderstood in America. I had a friend who lost it momentarily, I was very scared of her running into the wrong police officer during her mental episode.
 

jehuty

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As someone who lives in milwaukee and within walking distance of where the incident happened I must say the cop getting off without being charged is crap. Pure crap. The dude was know to have a mental illness and other cops treated him with kid gloves when they interacted with him. This other cop had no reason to frisk him and escalate the situation hence why he was fired. He should have been charged because his actions led to this unfortunate situation.

But who am I kidding. Black lives simply don't matter. I still remember when Frank Jude got beat up by a bunch of racists milwaukee cops at a house party in bay view. Jury of peers (read mainly white) cleared the cops of charges. The federal government had to come in to charge the cops and lock them up. I think that is the only instance I can remember where the right outcome came about for a black victim of police brutality in a long time.

Milwaukee police are basically immune to any and all critique. But then again, so are most police departments in the U.S.
 

devilhawk

Member
What are you even going to charge him with?

You wouldn't even have to be a cop to successfully claim self-defense in this case.

I have no issue with him being fired.
 

Bessy67

Member
As someone who lives in milwaukee and within walking distance of where the incident happened I must say the cop getting off without being charged is crap. Pure crap. The dude was know to have a mental illness and other cops treated him with kid gloves when they interacted with him. This other cop had no reason to frisk him and escalate the situation hence why he was fired. He should have been charged because his actions led to this unfortunate situation.

But who am I kidding. Black lives simply don't matter. I still remember when Frank Jude got beat up by a bunch of racists milwaukee cops at a house party in bay view. Jury of peers (read mainly white) cleared the cops of charges. The federal government had to come in to charge the cops and lock them up. I think that is the only instance I can remember where the right outcome came about for a black victim of police brutality in a long time.

Milwaukee police are basically immune to any and all critique. But then again, so are most police departments in the U.S.
No, just no. Should the officer have handled it differently? Sure. He didn't, and he was fired for that. However once it had escalated to the point that the officer was being attacked with a weapon he had every right to defend himself regardless of mental illness.
 

Corgi

Banned
I feel like I'm reading the script of Bourne Identity or something. Did this guy have military or martial arts experience or something?
 
"But, based on all the evidence and analysis presented in this report, I come to the conclusion that Officer Manney's use of force in this incident was justified self-defense and that defense cannot be reasonably overcome to establish a basis to charge Officer Manney with a crime."

You chose to bold the second half of the sentence instead of the first, for some reason, but to me this seems like another case of - "Judge acquainted with full facts of the case determines unfortunate incident to be self defense, random guy only informed by third party information on the internet thinks he knows better."

This sounds absolutely awful for everyone involved and we shouldn't be quick to assign blame to anyone based on their race, country, religion, or profession. Assuming the cop is always to blame isn't OK.
 
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