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Syria:Rebels launch offensive to try to break the siege of Eastern Aleppo

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Rebels outside Aleppo have launched the opening salvo of a battle aimed at breaking the siege of the opposition-controlled east of the city.

Opposition fighters fired hundreds of Katyusha and Grad rockets and artillery shells to lay the groundwork for an advance of rebel troops, who marched on territory controlled by the government of Bashar al-Assad from the west of Syria’s former industrial capital.

The offensive prompted the Russian defence ministry to ask President Vladimir Putin for permission to resume air strikes against the rebel-held east after 10 days in which the army said it had not struck, but a Kremlin spokesman said Putin did not believe for now it was necessary to restart the strikes.

The offensive began in the early hours of Friday. By the early afternoon the rebels had seized a district known as Dahiyat al-Assad, and begun shelling adjacent neighbourhoods in an effort to push further towards the besieged east.

The aim appeared to be the creation of a corridor that would link rebel-held Aleppo to the surrounding countryside dominated by the opposition, though rebel commanders have not outlined their path for fear of compromising military operations.

Among the factions that appear to be taking part in the battle to break the siege are Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, the former al-Qaida affiliate in Syria; the powerful Islamist group Ahrar al-Sham; and the Turkish-backed rebels the Sham Front.


Jabhat Fateh al-Sham was also a key element in the rebel offensive to break the siege in August. Its role will complicate the battlefield – though the group claims to have severed its links to al-Qaida, few believe that that would mean a change in ideology or loyalty.

But it has emerged as a powerful fighting force against Assad and increasingly entrenched itself within the opposition, which has seen middling military support from its international backers.

Ceasefire efforts brokered by the US and Russia have in the past aimed to isolate the group from other rebel fighters, but those have failed.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-advance-on-aleppo-in-attempt-to-break-siege
 

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Depending on which side the Iraqi government takes after they get rid of Daesh, This civil War will last another 2 years.
 
Depending on which side the Iraqi government takes after they get rid of Daesh, This civil War will last another 2 years.

on which side?

lol they already have a ton of Iraqi foreign fighters and Shia militias fighting for Assad right now


and I believe the Iraqi Government is pro Assad


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like stated in many recent articles this offensive's success and gains main objective is also to counter back against Assad and hold out until Obama leaves office



Again people can follow some stuff on the Syria live map

http://syria.liveuamap.com/
 
It seems that while the rebels are gaining ground, they are suffering great losses and the syrian army is not, I wonder if this offensive will end up like the one a few months ago where they broke the siege for a day or so only to lose everything again due to their losses not allowing them to hold the territory they gained.

If the objective is to gain time as you say, if they lose so many people that they no longer pose a credible threat then Hillary has nothing to put on the negotiating table, especially when so many of the figthers on the rebel side are in the US list of terrorist groups.
 

Kolx

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what is strange is that Russia involvement in this battle seems to be nowhere near what they used to be in the last battle. Is it just to lure rebels into advancing deep and then hitting them hard and killing as many of them as they can, or is it just that Russia can't keep up with the cost of the war anymore?
 
what is strange is that Russia involvement in this battle seems to be nowhere near what they used to be in the last battle. Is it just to lure rebels into advancing deep and then hitting them hard and killing as many of them as they can, or is it just that Russia can't keep up with the cost of the war anymore?

Their aircraft carrier is en route to Syria so maybe they are waiting for it to arrive
 
the whole thing is a waiting game for many sides

Russia is bringing that carrier in not to destroy things (which of course they will also do) but to have even more of a Russian presence in Syria in order to make more people back off


their game plan was also to have Aleppo fall but there is some resistance and that BS UN plan to create diaspora was greeted by protest from the people living there

that and the fact that Russia also failed to get a elected seat for the UN human rights council for 2017


basically holding out till 2017 is something for all sides
 
what is strange is that Russia involvement in this battle seems to be nowhere near what they used to be in the last battle. Is it just to lure rebels into advancing deep and then hitting them hard and killing as many of them as they can, or is it just that Russia can't keep up with the cost of the war anymore?

The latter, remember Russia making big shits about heavy bombers in Iran? Two sorties and they went back. Earlier in the year Putin said "mission accomplished" and pulled back the majority of forces.

Their aircraft carrier is en route to Syria so maybe they are waiting for it to arrive

It's launch system is so dated they can't even fully load thier aircraft, largely there for posturing.
 
Russia wanted to not only woo some nations to think of Russia as an alternative power but also distract the plummeting economic problems at home

but for them they took all these risks on the global stage only to have their click being the only ones that were swooned


they did succeed in distracting some Russian citizens but that won't last long if they don't rack even more and more wins and gains


a dragged out conflict is disastrous for Putin and he knows it... hence why he was trying to get SA to help pull up oil prices again while Russia's ally Iran, who just came out of sanctions was instead concerned about market share and continued to pump more and more oil out
 

antonz

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Wasnt it for 2 years or so in a shipyard being overhauled?

It has probably spent more time in drydock being repaired then in active service. Its a piece of junk.

The Russians and Syrians are just doing their usual bullshit. We promise we aren't bombing anyone. Meanwhile Schools being blown up by jets etc.
 
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