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Ubisoft says avoiding messages is part of making "more mature games"
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Zannegan
Gold Member
"A number of times"? More like once, last week, in an article by Kotaku who may or may not have heard something that wasn't there.
And I wish what Yves says about letting players choose a side were true. Half the time in an AC game I want to assassinate the Assassins, just to shut them up about how"everything is permitted... except what those guys think. For that, we'll cut you." Lol.
Speaking of, I need to pick up AC Rogue for a platform I still actively play on. Hmm...
And I wish what Yves says about letting players choose a side were true. Half the time in an AC game I want to assassinate the Assassins, just to shut them up about how"everything is permitted... except what those guys think. For that, we'll cut you." Lol.
Speaking of, I need to pick up AC Rogue for a platform I still actively play on. Hmm...
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Tremmy
Neo Member
People basically complaining about Ubisoft "fencesitting". They are expecting Ubisoft to pick a clear side with their inherently political games and when they don't, they complain. At the end of the day Ubisoft is a business and the bottom line is money. Not sending a political message. This concept seems to slip by a lot of people.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
I found the part about avoiding censorship interesting enough to create a discussion about it. For a high profile studio like Ubisoft to do this is noteworthy. In my opinion.
MastAndo
Member
Well, let's be honest here - the people complaining (those who see games as a vehicle for pushing "messages"), have a very particular side in mind.
Arun1910
Member
Oh right, yeah, dumb. The people that want this just want to push their own agenda.
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
Personally, politics have no place in games especially since that's not why I play games. Gaming is my primary hobby and form of entertainment and the last thing I want is for games to become political. Fuck that shit. If I want politics, I'll follow politics. For games, I just want to play through amazing worlds, experiences and have fun while doing so.
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
Saying politics don't have a place in games is as ridiculous a stance as what the people on the opposite side of the spectrum whine about. Politics most definitely have a place in games if it fits thematically and narratively. The issue comes when it is pandering or hamfistedly rammed knto a game for brownie points by one side or the other.
At that point it's just pathetic.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
To say franchises with "Tom Clancy" on the cover are not political makes me smile.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
That's been reversed though. And I think what they meant was censorship in terms of story and characters, etc.Ummm....guys
kunonabi
Member
Let alone all the garbage they've been pulling with Assassin's Creed. Ubisoft has been just as political as everybody else.
Whitesnake
Banned
Politics in games is fine.
Pushing a political message is bad.
Getting the player to think about political topics is good.
Pushing a political message is bad.
Getting the player to think about political topics is good.
Chance Boudreaux
Member
Maybe one where the protagonist protests at airports and goes around collecting methane from cows?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They literally re-wrote their Animus canon to appease the modern identity politics congregation.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Creating what you want is fair, but should they?
Tremmy
Neo Member
Thats my take on it. Who the hell wants to be like the current state of Youtube?
somerset
Member
Dumbs dumbs don't get art or narrative- thanks to the 'education' (that's a laff) they get in their eng-lit lessons during compulsory schooling.
Here's the thing. Most stories with overt political themes do *not* carry an overt message in the sense most of you try to 'understand' such. Your schooling msileads you, for your schooling is fabian in nature, and fabians wish to mislead the sheeple about just about everything.
Take a book like "Far from the Madding crowd". There is a lot of politics in the story if you know anything about the period and the writer. The author will also express his life POV to some extent. But actually this story is juts that- a story. A narrative experinence. A journey for the reader.
Read the classic and you'll learn something. But not in the sense the alt-left would have you believe. Not some tabloid sh-t pushing team blue or team red.
What the alt-left mean is *agitprop*. A sick and evil invention by america's fav cult to pollute all works of art experienced by the 'lesser'.
Here a game is supposed to be nothing but a viral carrier of some alt-left propaganda, like sheeple should always listen to whatever Team Peter Bright tells them at Ars Technica. HBO is about to spew the latest BBC agitprop bile, a miniseries called 'years and years' where the fiction crafts an alt-left vision of the future when the alt-left are denied power.
Putting words in the mouths of their enemies is a fav trick of America's fav cult. So make a game, put a Trump like character in the game, and have Trump scream his corruption and perversion. Hey- I've just described Rage 2 for you- exactly the kind of game alt-left pedophile Peter Bright states should be the only form of game allowed.
Or a game where the world is burning up, and all the computer scientist NPCs are screaming "if only they had taken climate change seriously back in the early 21st century".
*agitprop* - google this 'strange' word guys, and learn something.
Here's the thing. Most stories with overt political themes do *not* carry an overt message in the sense most of you try to 'understand' such. Your schooling msileads you, for your schooling is fabian in nature, and fabians wish to mislead the sheeple about just about everything.
Take a book like "Far from the Madding crowd". There is a lot of politics in the story if you know anything about the period and the writer. The author will also express his life POV to some extent. But actually this story is juts that- a story. A narrative experinence. A journey for the reader.
Read the classic and you'll learn something. But not in the sense the alt-left would have you believe. Not some tabloid sh-t pushing team blue or team red.
What the alt-left mean is *agitprop*. A sick and evil invention by america's fav cult to pollute all works of art experienced by the 'lesser'.
Here a game is supposed to be nothing but a viral carrier of some alt-left propaganda, like sheeple should always listen to whatever Team Peter Bright tells them at Ars Technica. HBO is about to spew the latest BBC agitprop bile, a miniseries called 'years and years' where the fiction crafts an alt-left vision of the future when the alt-left are denied power.
Putting words in the mouths of their enemies is a fav trick of America's fav cult. So make a game, put a Trump like character in the game, and have Trump scream his corruption and perversion. Hey- I've just described Rage 2 for you- exactly the kind of game alt-left pedophile Peter Bright states should be the only form of game allowed.
Or a game where the world is burning up, and all the computer scientist NPCs are screaming "if only they had taken climate change seriously back in the early 21st century".
*agitprop* - google this 'strange' word guys, and learn something.
BlackTron
Gold Member
Without having a clearly defined "side", nobody can complain about what side they fall on.
For people who expose themselves to games only to find something to complain about, of course this is a problem.
The upshot for them though is that they can still complain about the lack of anything to complain about.
theclaw135
Banned
I don't need or want to know what side the developer is on.
In the instances politics are relevant to a game, ensure it's told from the perspective of the characters within the game's universe and cannot be misconstrued as breaking the fourth wall.
In the instances politics are relevant to a game, ensure it's told from the perspective of the characters within the game's universe and cannot be misconstrued as breaking the fourth wall.
Too tame, we play as the bad guy savior of the world who actively goes around destroying cities in order for these nations to create more ecofriendly versions.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Well, I can't disagree with them, the idea that all stories must be politically motivated (and correct) is good if you want to make some propaganda piece, not for actual entertainment.
Now, I don't like 99%of what Ubisoft games anyway... So what's the point?
Now, I don't like 99%of what Ubisoft games anyway... So what's the point?
Ogbert
Member
If you require and/or derive political lessons from video games then you are a fucking idiot.
Our hobby is for children. That’s not a criticism. I enjoy it. We press buttons and Mario jumps or whizz whizz bang bang bullets fly out of an imaginary gun.
If you want to understand things, go read some history.
Our hobby is for children. That’s not a criticism. I enjoy it. We press buttons and Mario jumps or whizz whizz bang bang bullets fly out of an imaginary gun.
If you want to understand things, go read some history.
Seems like you can only have 'real' and 'uncut for so long before different forces come in to neuter everything and make it 'family friendly.'
