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Vanquish is the best of the genre gameplay wise, no people in there.
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Sony teasing The Order sneak peak at 1pm PT today.
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Vanquish is the best of the genre gameplay wise, no people in there.
FeiRR
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I think her social background could be a bigger problem. She was a peasant and the knights here are from the royal class, which I think adds to the story (I bet the rebels come from the working class). I'm also not sure what would Sony say to picture an actual saint in a game. They're quite cautious about this kind of stuff in their first parties.
As I remember from the GI coverage, some of them are over 600 yo.
Anos Voldigoad
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care to elaborate to the rest of us who doesn't even know how TPS can be revolutionize?
For god sake it's TPS, what more do u want?
? The first gameplay reveal of tLoU was very impressive, even from a gamedesign point of view, so much so, that many were skeptical of it being true (and infact it was toned down a bit in the final version).
This, on the other hand, looks like a very by the numbers cover shooter with amazing graphics and a cool setting.
Personally i'm kind of bummed that we're getting a setting this interesting, but they have still managed to go out of their way to shove in a cover shooter gameplay anyway.
It feels like a missed opportunity to try something new or less trite.
Of course the game's not out yet, so it's just knee jerk impressions i'm expressing.
We'll see how it goes.
I actually really like third-person cover shooters but I have to agree with you. The gameplay looks pretty cookie-cutter and by-the-numbers and doesn't like up to the promise of those early screens.
travisbickle
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I keep meaning to pick that up.
I'm pretty loose with the definition of killing people, Uncharted annoyed me most when every encounter was me killing people I presumed were friends of each other, possibly family members, and each time all they wanted to do was end the terror of the guy that's murdering everyone they know.
Now, it looks like in The Order you get to murder working-class British people who are part of a resistance army against the elite class. It's like you're on the wrong side of a civil conflict!
The problem with this scenario is just what I said in my original reply: the very nature of her death.
She was burned at the stake. There wouldn't have been very much of her left to restore.
I severely doubt the elixir could recreate a person from blackened ash, no matter how salubrious it was!
If they were going to include her, they would have to alter the circumstances of her death or (more likely) pretend it never happened. Now this is plausible in a world like this, since it is an alternate history. Just seems a little more difficult given how famous and legendary the death of Joan of Arc is.
Also, I don't think the characters in The Order are truly immortal per se. They clearly still age, just at a incredibly diminished rate. I don't know how effective the elixir is to keep a person like Joan of Arc alive into 1886. That would be like 450+ years after her death.
Most of the Knights are 600 years old.
Anos Voldigoad
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This is a joke right? You take away the colors, might as well you take away the atmosphere, the setting. Now that's what I call 'generic'.
GameSeeker
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I'm still waiting for Sony to release some high quality footage of the new The Order:1886 trailer (maybe next week), but from the stream it's clear that RAD is going to set a new benchmark for graphics. Ryse and KZ:SF were the two best looking launch games and since then only Infamous: Second Son has surpassed them. The Order: 1886 is looking to be on par or better than Infamous:SS. That's a very impressive feat.
On the gameplay side, I love that people are calling it a "Gears clone". Gears of War was one of my favorite series (first 3 games) on the 360. By combining Gears of War gameplay with Uncharted like story telling, RAD is on the right track. RAD is not a no-name or new developer. They have an excellent track and there will be a ton of crow eating when this game launches.
On the gameplay side, I love that people are calling it a "Gears clone". Gears of War was one of my favorite series (first 3 games) on the 360. By combining Gears of War gameplay with Uncharted like story telling, RAD is on the right track. RAD is not a no-name or new developer. They have an excellent track and there will be a ton of crow eating when this game launches.
The TLOU reveal thread was a choked full of.
Oh noes , more zombies
Yawn
Oh wow another ND 3rd person game
This looks boring.
It was a carbon copy of this thread.
I know, right.
paradise_circus
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the videos show the first chapters where the overall gamemechanics are shown and characters are introduced. i really think that the game will be pretty good.
PairOfFilthySocks
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As far as I can remember from LoU,
there was just the one arm-in-arm shooting section, and it was used to further the story in a rather inventive way (it was neat how Joel's skills rapidly deteriorated and it tied into the desperation of the situation
In this video, it looks like nothing more than a boring attempt to evoke excitement.
To me, THIS post was the way to handle an "I'm not overly impressed" reaction, rather than the way it's been handled countless times in this thread. If developers are reading the thread, this post is what would makes them want to show something different at E3
Psycho_Mantis
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Yeah I think this may be when they first enter the place or possibly the one of the early encounters. I suspect later on you will be facing the werewolves.
Kenshin001
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The actual E3 demo gameplay thread is nothing like that though:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=476888
It's mostly praise. Awesome, amazing, incredible etc.
Even the TLoU trailer received far more positivity than this sneak peak of gameplay.
iceatcs
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The TLOU is very late era. So that system war is low as people learn to move on (Post numbers prove it). Now we are in new fresh system war.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Yes, but NaughtyDog can put a pile of shit last gen as a trailer and people who would be all over it. I won't be surprised if Uncharted 4 builds from their momentum of last generation and sells more than U2, U3 and TLOU all of which sold 6m+. I'm willing to bet 8-9 million for the next Uncharted.
breakfuss
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Didn't feel that different to me. I know TLoU places less emphasis on it, but both felt wonky. I realize I'm in the minority.
GameSeeker
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Exactly. Lots of folks waging system wars through indirect comments on games. This is happening with all the major system exclusive (e.g., Ryse, KZ:SF, Forza 5, Infamous:SS, etc.).
Once you separate the system wars from The Order: 1886, the comments look much more positive.
I think it may actually just be a tutorial for the thermite gun.
How do you know who's pretending?
vpance
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Some of the art so far.
Are they really gonna be able to pull this off with a team of 100 devs? I think we'll be lucky to see 2 of the above environments fully done up.
InFamous Second Son had a similar development team size and look how that turned out!
Sephiroth_GR_
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On Chapter 3? Is it Assassin's Creed III 6-hour tutorial all over again?
iirc, GoW gave you a tutorial for the hammer of dawn when you pick it up in later chapters.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Did you actually play the games? They're quite different, not sure how someone can say the complete opposite with a straight face.
And was quite barebones in terms of content. The NPC in that game was really pointless. If RAD creates a lot of people walking in the streets, I really hope they make them feel like they belong and not so lifeless.
TalentBurke
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The game should have had Multiplayer. I never really play the single player campaign in shooters.
gundamkyoukai
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Chapters could be short if we use UC for eg some chapter are like 10 min while others much longer .
Psycho_Mantis
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Update: Videos below
http://kotaku.com/three-minutes-of-new-gameplay-from-the-order-1886-1580818674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtBo1YWH1-8
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/23/5745902/order-1886-video-twitch-gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8pl3aVnsyE
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/05/23/revolution-will-televised/
I just saw the second youtube video and wow it seems a missed a bit of gameplay.
The thermite gun looks insane.
Kenshin001
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I don't think it has anything to do with system wars. Pretty sure you will find people unimpressed with this sneak peak who were very positive about TLoU's showing. RAD just haven't presented the game well.
breakfuss
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Nah, just sharing opinions on games I've never played. I don't see what's so hard to understand. Shooting is probably my least favorite thing in Uncharted and TLoU. Was trying to be gracious and not outright call it 'bad'. They might approach it differently but it results in the same unwieldy feeling.
GavinUK86
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BrainZEROX
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That would be me. Thankfully I still hope Sony/RAD didn't show all the game has in store.
Hopefully.
Fried Food
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and TLOU had smooth aiming, this looks stiff and overly sensitive, hard to aquire a target
SDCowboy
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Are you looking for auto lock? I'd imagine there is something to that extend in lower difficulties.
Well maybe i'm applying selective memory here, but i remember people being pretty impressed by the fluidity of the game, as well as the dynamic behaviour of the enemies and Joel's and Ellie's interaction with them.
I'm talking about the gameplay video showing Joel and Ellie going through the Hotel flooded, btw, which was the first real extensive look at the game's gameplay.
vpance
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A small and unrealistically designed city, low on content and short on story. Great on graphics though of course. I've said it here before but there was unrealized potential in that game.
Then this game is propably just not for you. I don't think that there will be any shortage of multiplayer shooters in the future so I'm just glad to get games like these that devote themselves to a (hopefully) good single player campaigns. Although, I do think that this game would have benefitted from a co-op option.
Principate
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Standard people they ain't unless you flying soldiers with swords as normal grunts.
Yeah it obvious that he is shooting above and around the enemy to ignite the gas cloud.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...he-weapons-and-gadgets-of-the-order-1886.aspx
LegendofDragoonLives
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I don't have a problem with you feeling like both franchises have bad aiming and you don't like it. I have a problem you saying they both played the same, which is flat out wrong. You may as well compare every 3rd person game that uses guns being the same if you put those two in the same category.
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