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kubus

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Thanks for your input! Much appreciated.

The threads about the demo are pretty inactive so that's a probably a sign that people aren't interested in discussing the game yet. There's also not really much to talk or speculate about anyway. I think I'll stick with Monday~Tuesday then :).
 
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Rösti

Unconfirmed Member
Hey guys, I'm a little unclear on something. How long should I wait before I post my OT for the Xbox Conference, it sys less than 7 days in the OT but I assume it works differently for E3 right?
The E3 conference threads usually are allowed around an hour before the conference starts. You can of course post the thread earlier, but it will most likely be temporarily locked to prevent a lot of jibberish. As Dark Schala wrote.

I'll post my E3 2014 General Information & FAQ thread on the 8th of June most likely.
 

Roo

Member
Rösti;113943361 said:
The E3 conference threads usually are allowed around an hour before the conference starts. You can of course post the thread earlier, but it will most likely be temporarily locked to prevent a lot of jibberish. As Dark Schala wrote.

I'll post my E3 2014 General Information & FAQ thread on the 8th of June most likely.

Looking forward to it.
I love your threads.
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
Even though it's not a game OT I would like to claim the "Best of E3 awards" thread for next week.

During the voting and results thread last year it became clear that the platform voting stuff is an outdated notion and it should only be about the games and genre categories can be applied later, if they make sense.
(Although the blending of genres makes that weird too as we've seen with some games in the GAF GOTY threads.)
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
I've added the following note to the top of the OP:

Note: E3 sticky threads (usually the same people for stickies due to timing concerns) and financial reports (first come first serve) are procedural threads that are handled differently from the others. Please don't claim those in here.

Sorry, I would have put this note in sooner but I hadn't realized that people had expanded significantly past the |OT| part of the title with what they were claiming.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Well since we have a mod in here, I think we should clean up the OT |OT| even further and discuss whether or not claiming threads for rumoured titles or claiming threads for movies/games that aren't even due until 2-3 years from now or "probably is never going to be released" should be allowed.

I'm mostly bringing the issue up because I've seen other people express their issues with it. I do have to admit that it isn't fair and it leads to people claiming games/movies/events that come even after that incredibly pre-emptively. Heck, that's why I ended up claiming some anniversary threads so early (despite doing 80% of the work for them already) even though I don't like the practice.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
I'm of the mind that things should be claimed after an actual release date is made available for them. It's a weird process when people are scheduled to handle OTs that can be years off, with nebulous potential release windows at best.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Well since we have a mod in here, I think we should clean up the OT |OT| even further and discuss whether or not claiming threads for rumoured titles or claiming threads for movies/games that aren't even due until 2-3 years from now or "probably is never going to be released" should be allowed.

I'm mostly bringing the issue up because I've seen other people express their issues with it. I do have to admit that it isn't fair and it leads to people claiming games/movies/events that come even after that incredibly pre-emptively. Heck, that's why I ended up claiming some anniversary threads so early (despite doing 80% of the work for them already) even though I don't like the practice.
I'm of the mind that things should be claimed after an actual release date is made available for them. It's a weird process when people are scheduled to handle OTs that can be years off, with nebulous potential release windows at best.
We're actually having a discussion about this one right now. I hope to report back with the results in the not too distant future.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
Well since we have a mod in here, I think we should clean up the OT |OT| even further and discuss whether or not claiming threads for rumoured titles or claiming threads for movies/games that aren't even due until 2-3 years from now or "probably is never going to be released" should be allowed.

I'm mostly bringing the issue up because I've seen other people express their issues with it. I do have to admit that it isn't fair and it leads to people claiming games/movies/events that come even after that incredibly pre-emptively. Heck, that's why I ended up claiming some anniversary threads so early (despite doing 80% of the work for them already) even though I don't like the practice.

Nemesis already said that he's not adding games to the list that are rumors/unannounced but I do agree that we should we wait for a release date before claiming OTs.
 
I know the game is due next year, but I would like to also claim this
Homefront: The Revolution by VisceralBowl (2nd of June 2014)
People who like to write are welcomed to collaborate.
As for the discussion of games with unknown release dates being claimed, I can see that being an issue. But my question is, how far should we go? If we have a year are we fine? Do we need exact days?
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Since we've had some issues over the last few months:

What does it mean to claim a thread here?
- Claiming a thread here means you are willing to work on it.
- If you don't want a thread, don't claim it here
- If you change your mind, reply here to say you're not claiming it
- If you claim a thread and don't make it or give it up in here, you've negatively impacted others and that's not fair to them. You may be juniored as a result.
- If someone else wants the thread after you, WORK WITH THEM. You are not entitled to make the thread exclusively. It's not your personal fortress. The claiming is about preventing two people wasting their time making duelling threads, it's not about allowing you to exclude others. If there are any problems cooperating, solve them yourselves. This is not kindergarten, moderators here are not your teachers.
- If you make a thread on someone else's behalf, it's your thread. If there are errors in the thread, you will be held responsible. If the thread is the kind of thread that needs updates and the person doesn't deliver them, you will be held responsible. Don't volunteer to make threads on someone else's behalf unless you are going to be responsible for them later.
- We are considering asking prohibiting people from claiming threads that are for the distant future and limiting users to games that have actually been locked down for release. We haven't stopped you from doing so yet, but use common sense; there's no need to claim something 4 years in advance.

I guess posting in this topic means nothing anymore >_<

Well, you could immediately complain about it in here and be bitter about it, or you could wait a few minutes and chill out. You successfully claimed the OT for a week-long conference. During that conference, there is a keynote video. Since your conference thread was posted as early as possible (actually, well before the actual guidelines for posting OTs here, for some reason?), the actual event of the keynote got lost in the shuffle a little.

Another user elected to create a thread specifically about the keynote stream. This isn't because they usurped your divine right to make exclusive threads or to undermine you or because he hated you, it was to call attention to the keynote stream. He started a thread because he thought it was attract more attention, and several people replying to that thread made it clear that they were not aware because they didn't really pay attention to the conference as a whole, they just wanted the keynote. It is common to make a thread about a live stream event on the same day as the event. Your thread is bigger than that, because it's for the full conference.. Because we had two threads covering the exact same thing, we locked yours during the stream by selecting a thread randomly to lock. In hindsight, it was actually the right decision anyway since the thread was more directly focused on the event.

After the stream, for the purpose of covering the rest of WWDC, we're happy to unlock your thread (or if you'd prefer to keep it locked, keep it locked)

In the future if you want to help coordinate a thread for a livestreaming event, claim a thread for a livestreaming event and post it on the same day. If you want to help coordinate a thread for a week-long conference, do that.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Since when is playing a game a requirement for making the OT? ;)

I knew I didn't interpreted it right. What I meant that OP lost completely interests in the game and moved on to something different without letting the community know so there wouldn't be any sign of new OT for awhile, eventually someone would take over (or moderator would.) My apologies for any confusion!

I have seen it happened before.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
Quick question. What resolution do you guys usually use for your main banner? I've been messing with some but am unsure what I'm doing is alright. I'm currently using 1024 x 768. Thanks.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
I'm looking for some graphical collabators for the Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare OT . If you're interested please PM ASAP.

Edit: VisceralBowl has been kind enough to volunteer to help.
 

Dawg

Member
Since we've had some issues over the last few months:

What does it mean to claim a thread here?
- Claiming a thread here means you are willing to work on it.
- If you don't want a thread, don't claim it here
- If you change your mind, reply here to say you're not claiming it
- If you claim a thread and don't make it or give it up in here, you've negatively impacted others and that's not fair to them. You may be juniored as a result.
- If someone else wants the thread after you, WORK WITH THEM. You are not entitled to make the thread exclusively. It's not your personal fortress. The claiming is about preventing two people wasting their time making duelling threads, it's not about allowing you to exclude others. If there are any problems cooperating, solve them yourselves. This is not kindergarten, moderators here are not your teachers.
- If you make a thread on someone else's behalf, it's your thread. If there are errors in the thread, you will be held responsible. If the thread is the kind of thread that needs updates and the person doesn't deliver them, you will be held responsible. Don't volunteer to make threads on someone else's behalf unless you are going to be responsible for them later.
- We are considering asking prohibiting people from claiming threads that are for the distant future and limiting users to games that have actually been locked down for release. We haven't stopped you from doing so yet, but use common sense; there's no need to claim something 4 years in advance.



Well, you could immediately complain about it in here and be bitter about it, or you could wait a few minutes and chill out. You successfully claimed the OT for a week-long conference. During that conference, there is a keynote video. Since your conference thread was posted as early as possible (actually, well before the actual guidelines for posting OTs here, for some reason?), the actual event of the keynote got lost in the shuffle a little.

Another user elected to create a thread specifically about the keynote stream. This isn't because they usurped your divine right to make exclusive threads or to undermine you or because he hated you, it was to call attention to the keynote stream. He started a thread because he thought it was attract more attention, and several people replying to that thread made it clear that they were not aware because they didn't really pay attention to the conference as a whole, they just wanted the keynote. It is common to make a thread about a live stream event on the same day as the event. Your thread is bigger than that, because it's for the full conference.. Because we had two threads covering the exact same thing, we locked yours during the stream by selecting a thread randomly to lock. In hindsight, it was actually the right decision anyway since the thread was more directly focused on the event.

After the stream, for the purpose of covering the rest of WWDC, we're happy to unlock your thread (or if you'd prefer to keep it locked, keep it locked)

In the future if you want to help coordinate a thread for a livestreaming event, claim a thread for a livestreaming event and post it on the same day. If you want to help coordinate a thread for a week-long conference, do that.

Question: is length / quality important for mods? NeoGAF is a big forum, so is it a problem when someone claims a game and makes a half assed OT? I haven't actually seen this happen AFAIK but I'm just curious.

I'm also partially curious if OTs such as my own Watch Dogs thread are A-OK for the mods. I noticed the Watch_Dawgs title was changed to Watch_Dogs (which I don't mind at all btw) but I'm wondering how important the content itself is as well. I try to include the most important information in my OTs but I noticed they're not as extensive as certain other threads. Mainly because I... ehm... prefer to add a joke here and there. Unfortunately, not everyone always gets the meta stuff I add. Not sure if that is a problem either.

My point is that I try to make every OT somewhat iconic/meta. I guess people know what to expect when I make an OT but I have also noticed not everyone likes my style. I've seen some replies in the early pages of WD that state an OT should not be a joke or that it should be a little more serious.

Partially asking because I already know how I'm gonna do the Dragon Age OT (taking inspiration from the last two OTs? ehhh) but I don't want to do anything wrong. Then again, Shinobi is back so if he wants his OT back I have no problem with it.
 

Snuggles

erotic butter maelstrom
Sounds like you're way overthinking it. People should probably just take OT's less serious in general. It's not that big of a deal. They're just a place to discuss the game, posting teh ultimate epic OT isn't gonna make you internet famous.

BTW Evilore's Dragon Age OT's were pretty funny but I don't think anyone should attempt to emulate them. It's just not gonna work.
 

Dawg

Member
Sounds like you're way overthinking it. People should probably just take OT's less serious in general. It's not that big of a deal. They're just a place to discuss the game, posting teh ultimate epic OT isn't gonna make you internet famous.

BTW Evilore's Dragon Age OT's were pretty funny but I don't think anyone should attempt to emulate them. It's just not gonna work.

I try not to overthink these things, it's just that people on here say so many different things I don't know what to think anymore. You're saying people should take these things less seriously but doesn't that contradict what Stump just said? I mean, he says: "If there are errors in the thread, you will be held responsible. If the thread is the kind of thread that needs updates and the person doesn't deliver them, you will be held responsible. Don't volunteer to make threads on someone else's behalf unless you are going to be responsible for them later."

I'm trying to find some kind of middle ground here :p And what you're saying about 'posting teh ultimate epic OT': I know what you mean, but you should at least put some thought in it, right? Looking at your own OTs, you put some work in those and there's a few "funny" tidbits here and there. Now I won't deny that I like it when people appreciate a joke I used in one of my OTs, because that would be lying. Always fun to see. Only human, I think.

Primary reason I like doing these things is because it's actually a fun thing to do when I am bored. Also a good excuse to launch Photoshop again and perhaps learn a thing or two.
 

Snuggles

erotic butter maelstrom
I guess I came off a little harsh, but as long as you cover all the essential info about the game and update it if needed, you should do whatever you want with it. Don't worry so much about what other people are expecting. Just have fun. If you create something you're proud of, people will most likely respond positively to it anyways.
 

Seda

Member
Question: is length / quality important for mods? NeoGAF is a big forum, so is it a problem when someone claims a game and makes a half assed OT? I haven't actually seen this happen AFAIK but I'm just curious.

The important thing is that the relevant and useful information is there. Fancy banners or artwork aren't necessary at all. Going into excruciating detail about every character/location/weapon isn't required either. As long as key info is there and correct.
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
I not too sure on the procedure here but just to be safe.
I'm gonna go ahead and make a War Thunder OT. The PS4 and PC versions are now fully released and there's no place to talk.
 

Dawg

Member
Nemesis_, the Dragon Age OT will need another update.

Shinobi will be doing it and I'll collaborate with him.
 
It seems nobody claimed Assassin's Creed: Unity?

If that holds true (search and crtl+f say it is) then I would like to claim it. Open to collaborators on this one.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
BTW Evilore's Dragon Age OT's were pretty funny but I don't think anyone should attempt to emulate them. It's just not gonna work.
Nah, I think it's neat for games we know are going to be crap. Like Time and Eternity's NA thread or RK's SaGa 2 thread. Those were good.

You're right, though. It's not our jobs to advertise games. Companies' PR is there for that reason. We just make threads for people to talk about games in and just list media/release dates/pertinent info for a post that people probably won't look at 3 pages in (and I know that from prior experience -- "dude, I wrote that in the op. :/"). If I recall correctly, your Rayman Origins thread from a few years ago was fine and had sufficient information with sufficient media. That's all you really need, tbh.
 
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