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No New Final Fantasy XV Info at E3 2014
- Thread starter Flying Wonkey
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It doesn't feed the narrative that Japan gaming is dead so sshhhh
Digital-Hero
Member
This wouldn't fly in a western development studio and definitely not the one I work in now.
Chinpoko_Master
Member
You know, I could honestly see SE announcing FFXVI and releasing it before XV at this point. I hope it never comes to that, because oh man lol.
It flew for Duke Nukem Forever.
That is not the norm though.
I feel safer not expecting this game to show up than expecting it will, so at least this news doesn't really hurt. Been a slow transition from disappointing to funny to embarrassing over the years.
I'm assuming morale for the Versus/XV team isn't all that high at this point...
I'm assuming morale for the Versus/XV team isn't all that high at this point...
This is getting to be the norm for SE, isn't it? Sad to think about.
Vire
Member
I don't care for X and Bayonetta, not a big fan of Platinum Games at all or Monolith.
Project Beast still excites me greatly, so I guess that's one...
But Kojima Productions, Square Enix and Team Ico were my favorite Japanese studios... Well until they stopped making video games.
Square is not the norm in Japan either
Team ICO is going to join Square
It was such a bad leak it made my brain hurt
Then what's the famitsu lightning thing ?
Kagari, will we be seeing this game in TGS?
Also, wth SE, I can honestly say that 1/3 of my hype for E3 died down.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Square is not the norm in Japan either
You say that like its a good thing. Square's management issues are legendary at this point. They've now gone through 13 years and 4 iterations of their flagship franchise going through an extraordinary amount of development hell, and each time, it seems they've learned next to nothing since come the next iteration, they're right back to their old ways. Whether or not they should have cancelled this project is up to debate, but the fact is there needs to be a serious overhaul of SE's management.
I just don't get the idea of lumping Kojima in with Square or Ico, sure he's taken a while to make his newest game, but it's clear to anyone that it's at least coming along.
Unlike Last Guardian, which is still up in the air and FFXV which is aeons away.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Is capcom part of the merger?
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Square Enix has been crap for years, even if ARR is really good(gotta give them credit for that).
I believe in Japan because Nintendo, Atlus, Falcom, Gust, and Platinum still gives us quality games every year.
Edit: Just saw your other post, Kojima takes his time but he delivers at least.
Orniletter
Banned
The last mainline Final Fantasy without development troubles was FF X in 2001 .
The mainline series is
(kind of)
That we have come to this point is just baffling.
Edit: Rewritten my post, direct sequels are closer to spin-offs imo.
No I don't???!!???
I simply stated a fact without implying that it was a positive or negative thing. Taking too much time to make a game is not a good thing, neither for me who wants to desperately play the game nor for the developer who is sinking ridiculous amounts of money to a mess of a project.
Vire
Member
Just for reference, MGS4 came out in 2008.
By the time MGS5 comes out it will have been 7 years. So yeah, they deserve to be thrown in that mix too.
But Peace Walker, the HD collection, the wasted years his team failed to create anything out of Rising. C'mon.
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Yes, but they also didn't decide to announce a game 8 years+ before its release.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
but he wasn't working on MGS5 during most of that time. Peace Walker was a 2010 game, you know.
EatinOlives
Member
FFXII was in development hell and resurfaced to controversial reception
FFXIII was in development hell and resurfaced to somewhat negative reception
FFXIV was mismanaged in the worst way possible, shitted out to the public, and forced SE to redo the entire game from scratch. A bizarrely transparent and very public "development hell" if you will.
FFXV has obviously been in development hell at least once and is going back underground after a very pointed effort to "re-unveil" the title.
Basically, SE hasn't had "normal" development since FF XII on the PS2. The studio has some serious problems with software development and project management. It's one thing for a studio to have a "duke nukem forever", or a "half life 3", the story of one game that will just refuse to surface. It's another to have a nonending stream of major release after major release that consists of nothing but development headaches, broken promises, ridiculous waiting times, bizarre results, and a pissed off fanbase.
I'm honestly amazed that they're still in business. I guess their iOS games are making so much it's keeping them afloat because their mainline FF series hasn't had regular, sane human being development for well over a decade.
FFXIII was in development hell and resurfaced to somewhat negative reception
FFXIV was mismanaged in the worst way possible, shitted out to the public, and forced SE to redo the entire game from scratch. A bizarrely transparent and very public "development hell" if you will.
FFXV has obviously been in development hell at least once and is going back underground after a very pointed effort to "re-unveil" the title.
Basically, SE hasn't had "normal" development since FF XII on the PS2. The studio has some serious problems with software development and project management. It's one thing for a studio to have a "duke nukem forever", or a "half life 3", the story of one game that will just refuse to surface. It's another to have a nonending stream of major release after major release that consists of nothing but development headaches, broken promises, ridiculous waiting times, bizarre results, and a pissed off fanbase.
I'm honestly amazed that they're still in business. I guess their iOS games are making so much it's keeping them afloat because their mainline FF series hasn't had regular, sane human being development for well over a decade.
How's this sound for a new thread title? Cause aside from FFXV/KH3 being a no show, might as well get it out the way cause I doubt those two are the only things we will be disappointed about.
"Post-E3, your biggest disappointments and (non) reveals?"
"Post-E3, your biggest disappointments and (non) reveals?"
NoctisVsStar
Member
[QUOTE="D";115044796]How's this sound for a new thread title? Cause aside from FFXV/KH3 being a no show, might as well get it out the way cause I doubt those two are the only things we will be disappointed about.
"Post-E3, your biggest disappointments and (non) reveals?"[/QUOTE]
Brilliant! KH3 teaser does it? Lol
"Post-E3, your biggest disappointments and (non) reveals?"[/QUOTE]
Brilliant! KH3 teaser does it? Lol
Vire
Member
Okay, so even if you say they were working on Peace Walker for 2 years. That's a 5 year development time for MGS5. Obviously not counting the wasted time on Rising.
Anyway, this is silly, my point is - my favorite Japanese studios haven't produced anything worthwhile in quite some time.
I'm just disappointed that's all.
Please Square
Guys this is fake or real
It's fake.
1. You're forgetting about Peace Walker
2. He don't announced the MGS 5 in 2008
Since the game become public, we're getting news about him every 3-4 months
The same can't be said about FF XV or Last Guardian
Please Square
Guys this is fake or real
It's real.
A real fake, but someone did make it.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I guess Eidos is paying the bills for another year.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Even square isn't stupid enough to have lightning returns bomb on two more platforms.
It's like SQ is the japanese 3d realms only they have like 3 Duke Nukem Forevers going at any given time.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
I actually wouldn't mind a revert to 2D FFs(if they were given HD, crisp sprite action and wonderful backgrounds), if it means a new FF every year or so. I know the graphic hounds wouldn't allow it, but is it really worth it to wait THIS long for a game that "looks" good? IMO, if you can make a great game(graphics be damned, there are great 2D and 3D games) with a great story that plays uber well, it doesn't matter if it's the top of the line/cutting edge graphics with every skinflake rendered as realistically as possible.
Though, IMO, whatever can be done to cut down the dev time while retaining some quality(yet not pushing the boundaries for the sake of making everything look as realistic as possible) would suffice. I wouldn't mind something similar to PS3/X360 rendering if it meant less detail minute detail and more focus on expanding the game. Hell, I wouldn't even mind an experimental FF that went the cel-shaded route(like Ni no Kuni), gave us a fully explorable world where towns, while still being fully 3D, have a painted(cartoon/anime background) look to them. Basically, if it allows a game to be made that limits the dev time while not hindering it by making it seem "less" of an experience(higher graphical power means less exploration and more linearity), so fuckin BE IT!! I'd sacrifice the naysayers just for that!!
7DollarHagane
Banned
How is anyone at that company okay with this?
Who blackmailed who to get this 10 year paid vacation at this company?
Who blackmailed who to get this 10 year paid vacation at this company?
But that's like the whole philosophy behind the series existing. It cost a lot so let's make more out of the materials we have.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Please Square
Guys this is fake or real
Reminds me of that theater unveiling of "fake Square" introducing people to Final Fantasy XV, which showed Versus becoming XV, ending with a roar from the theater. That turned out to be staged, but oddly, the concept(Versus becoming XV) was coincidentally true.
Vire
Member
Only way I would accept a Lightning Collection is to see all the mental breakdowns that'll occur on the internet...