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[Brazil]

Strelkov is about to have a very bad day.

Good.

 

[Deified Data]

So the separatists took credit?

 

[chugen]

damn

 

[Saganator]

Why the hell are they flying over a war zone? This really sucks =[

 

[Kurdel]

I wonder if this will hasten the end of the conflict.

I think it will hasten the resolution in the Doneskt region, but we still have the Crimean/Russia question to settle, so this can still last.

 

[commish]

Has it been confirmed shot down? I'm seeing varying reports, but the thread title might be a bit premature.

 

[Technosteve]

Can we send in team america and kill every single one of those scum bags?

 

[Xando]

RIP to all the Victims sorry for their families.
Baffles me that civilian planes are allowed to fly in this warzone.

 

[LanceVance]

Why the hell are they flying over a war zone? This really sucks =[

War zones are flown over all the time. It hadn't been declared a no fly zone.

 

[HoosTrax]

Someone posted an image of airline flights now detouring around Donetsk region.

 

[Kimaxe]

There's a good chance the majority of the passengers on the plane will turn out to be Dutch. 200+ I fear.

Majority of the passengers is Dutch and it seems there were French ones too (not confirmed yet by l'Elysée)

 

[jmdajr]

that's bad man

 

[Maxim726X]

Has it been confirmed shot down? I'm seeing varying reports, but the thread title might be a bit premature.

The evidence is mounting. All of the major news outlets are reporting that it was shot down.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Has it been confirmed shot down? I'm seeing varying reports, but the thread title might be a bit premature.

It's not pre-mature.

It's a logical conclusion based on the wide spread of wreckage. You don't get that from an engine/mechanical failure.

 

[e_i]

Wikipedia article listing all airline shootdown incidents

Wow, they added this one already.

 

[Dragonborn]

Can we send in team america and kill every single one of those scum bags?

No, the US won't get involved (and really shouldn't).

 

[Knoxcore]

So the separatists took credit?

Apparently they took credit for shooting down a plane, but deny having the capability to reaching an aircraft at 33,000 feet.

 

[Jamie OD]

This is horrific.

 

[Slackbladder]

United States has shot down an airliner before. They did not admit it.

Chances that someone will admit their mistake this time = 0.

No they admitted it, they just didn't give a damn and gave the Captain a commodation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

 

[F!ReW!Re]

Quoted for the new page;

NOS reporting:
A Spokesperson from D-reizen confirmed that there were 25 Dutch passengers booked onto that flight.
They can't give a confirmed number about the actual number of people who actually checked in...

 

[TimeEffect]

Can someone explain who the "Rebels" are? Are they Ukrainian citizens against Russians? How did they become militant?

Sorry, I havent been following

 

[Dunedain_Ranger]

I'm not really caught up on current events guys. Why is there a big worry about the passengers being Dutch?

 

[Zoned]

Why the hell are they flying over a war zone? This really sucks =[

Thousands of flights fly over these areas. So it's not like they are flying here for first time.

 

[maniac-kun]

Lufthansa just rerouted all flights to avoid the Ukraine.

 

[QuicheFontaine]

Holy fuck. A passenger plane with almost 300 people on board.

There will be repercussions to this.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Can someone explain who the "Rebels" are? Are they Ukrainian citizens against Russians? How did they become militant?

Sorry, I havent been following

They are Ukrainians fighting to become part of Russia, backed by Russia. Very basically.

 

[RustyNails]

I WAKE UP TO THIS.


WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK.

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

Has it been confirmed shot down? I'm seeing varying reports, but the thread title might be a bit premature.

Basically yeah, it was really shot down.
Also because of the amount of derby of the airplane is not from a normal crash airplane.

 

[B.O.O.M]

what a tragic piece of news to wake up to

RIP

 

[MicH]

My god, this is absolutely horrifying! I feel sorry for all the families of everyone on board.

I can't believe this is happening to another Malaysian Airlines plane so soon after the other one went missing

 

[AstroNut325]

Someone posted an image of airline flights now detouring around Donetsk region.

Good. Commercial flights should have been avoiding high-tension regions since the first days of fighting.

 

[LNBL]

Quoted for the new page;

Also FOX travels had people boarded according to the ANWB, 15 people.

 

[kess]

This is why you don't give fucking assholes sophisticated weaponry, my god

 

[Pennywise]

If this got shot down then it had to be some military grade weapons as I doubt separatists could get their hands on high grade military weapons. (So the rumours of Russia shooting it down "could" be true"

But if this plane crashed then I personally think the Malaysian Airlines/Government need to retest every pilot...

2 planes in a year from the same airline company is messed up.

Just saying, how do you think they're still holding alot of those areas ?
They took over military bases and easily equipped themselves...

So every scenario might be possible, allthough I think it was them.
Putin wouldn't be so stupid, neither the Ukraine.

Let's not just jump to conclusions and point to WWIII like alot of people did here.

 

[Stet]

I'm not really caught up on current events guys. Why is there a big worry about the passengers being Dutch?

Brings other countries into combat.

 

[Daria Morgendorffer]

Christ what a tragedy, my thoughts go out to all those affected by this horrible incident.

 

[MiamiWesker]

No they admitted it, they just didn't give a damn and gave the Captain a commodation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

That is so stupid, he should be in jail.

That said the US gave millions to the families. Bad consolation but it was something.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I WAKE UP TO THIS.


WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK.

Good morning

 

[commish]

It's not pre-mature.

It's a logical conclusion based on the wide spread of wreckage. You don't get that from an engine/mechanical failure.

If there was an explosion on the plane while in the air, would the wreckage be similarly wide spread? Just curious. Can't believe someone would shoot down an airliner. I mean, really.

 

[Ensirius]

This is so terrible.

 

[ymmv]

I'm not really caught up on current events guys. Why is there a big worry about the passengers being Dutch?

Because that's relevant for Dutch GAFers (like me).

 

[Slackbladder]

I'm not really caught up on current events guys. Why is there a big worry about the passengers being Dutch?

It will directly involve the European Union who are already at odds with Russia, if Russian involvement is proven.

 

[Spineker]

The investigation into this is going to be long and painful. There is nothing left to examine.

 

[Knoxcore]

It's not pre-mature.

It's a logical conclusion based on the wide spread of wreckage. You don't get that from an engine/mechanical failure.

The evidence is mounting. All of the major news outlets are reporting that it was shot down.

Has it been confirmed shot down? I'm seeing varying reports, but the thread title might be a bit premature.

The media is simply reporting what the Ukraine Interior Ministry said. No investigation has been done so we don't know for sure. People here are just connecting dots. I'm being cautious and exploring all possibilities.

 

[Boom Boom Pow]

Wow. My thoughts are with the passenger's families.

the rebels are saying ukraine did it

 

[Son of Sam]

Good. Commercial flights should have been avoiding high-tension regions since the first days of fighting.

Exactly. WTF

 

[EatinOlives]

There have to be consequences to this. You can't just shoot a civilian plane out of the sky, kill hundreds of innocent people, and walk away from this unscathed.

 

[elty]

So this is either

1) Shot down by Ukraine
2) Shot down by Russia
3) Shot down by Rebel
4) Crash due to some other reason

I think in terms of possibility, #3 > #4 >>> #1 = #2

 

[Volimar]

People looting items from the crash according to Ukraine’s Internal Affairs minister.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

This will cause an almighty shit storm.

People looting items from the crash according to Ukraine’s Internal Affairs minister.

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