SolidSnakeUS
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And if this was on the PS4, it would mean that this would never happen again with PS+.
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Sony's response to EA Access Subscription plan
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And if this was on the PS4, it would mean that this would never happen again with PS+.
What about discounts to EA games through Plus? Tally those up please because that will be gone with this subscription.
TrueGrime
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Get out of here with this shit.
Can we drop the "choice" canard like it isn't somehow perfectly natural in this particular market for platform holders to dictate choice at a very granular level? We are all still talking about the services and products that come to support *fixed* hardware platforms that don't get updated for 5-10 years, right?
OF COURSE Sony is dictating what is best for their customers. It's inherent in how this industry has worked for decades and you, me and everyone else who buys into these consoles and their games have endorsed that. The very nature of the market has been about the platform owners restricting or allowing choice in a way that enables their individual, *totally proprietary* platforms to flourish as they see fit.
n00bsauce87
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Well what I mean is, if you paid for madden 25 through this service, after your sub is up, can they take your playing privileges away? I would find that bad if you paid EA to download the game from them.
Dragonborn
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EA's not going to leave money on the table. They can't ignore the PS4's install base, especially as it keeps growing. They get paid for PS+ games and they get money when people buy their games, even discounted. I don't see that going anywhere. It might go away on the X1 though, since it might get tied up to the sub.
And if Sony's able to get a good PS Now sub going, EA won't ignore that either if there's enough subscribers.
It's not entirely wrong though. It's harsh, but true, the reason we have paid online is because MS proved they could get away with it. Is it entirely bad? Egh, the online on PS4 is much better than on PS3 so I can't complain (it's finally as good as XBL).
Miles Quaritch
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Choice is suddenly obnoxious?
Wow...
And it's laughable to see how invested you are in the Sony/PS4 ecosystem.
Choice? If Sony says it's bad, it totally has to be. I'll just ignore the fact that they are only looking out for themselves and their bottom line.
And why can't PSN stand on its own? Perhaps Sony should invest in offering other value through PAN to justify the sub instead of trying to squash competition/choice and be anti consumer?
Colonel Nasty
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I can't believe (well of course I can, there's a defense force for everything) people are defending Sony on this. Why not give players the option? It's completely optional. Some people clearly wanted this on PS and Sony gets to say "none for you, we know what's best."
ethomaz
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You said they switched platform for these games but I tried to be sarcastic because it didn't happened and you know that because the games didn't launched yet... can happen in the future? yeap... I believe it will happen.
duessano
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People are acting like it would have been free for Sony to add EA Access.
That isn't the case and if Sony couldn't afford it, they won't come out and admit to that. I am not onboard with the posters saying that Sony does not want competition with PS+, Sony has a video service and yet still allows Hulu and Netflix, etc on their platform.
That isn't the case and if Sony couldn't afford it, they won't come out and admit to that. I am not onboard with the posters saying that Sony does not want competition with PS+, Sony has a video service and yet still allows Hulu and Netflix, etc on their platform.
RazielCuts
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The question is, was this even offered to Sony? With this, Titanfall and the FIFA launch bundle I thought EA were predicting MS to be the clear 'winner' this gen so made some deals way back when. I think EA were pretty big supporters of the always online DRM as well so it seemed like the two companies viewpoints aligned pretty well.
Perhaps exclusivity contracts were signed a while ago and Sony are just trying to put a good spin on things by saying 'Eh, we didn't want it anyway'?
Perhaps exclusivity contracts were signed a while ago and Sony are just trying to put a good spin on things by saying 'Eh, we didn't want it anyway'?
SolidSnakeUS
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Because by giving people this option/choice, it gives EA the incentive to never allow free games (EA games) on PS+ ever again, or even ever provide discounts for those games in the future. Sorry that Sony is looking at the long term.
Schweinehund
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How do you know this isn't the case?
Brad Grenz
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It's more like McDonald's offers an annual subscription that gets you 10% off orders and access to all the day old fries you want and Burger King saying that's dumb, unhealthy and our prices are already a great value.
ethomaz
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All EA games are coming to both plataforms... except if there are some specific deal like Titanfall (but that is not the subject of the thread).
SolidSnakeUS
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You really think this would ever work on the PC? This would drive people to Steam more than they already have.
ahahah bite me
ElRenoRaven
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Even then $30 bucks is less then that unless he's getting the games for 10 bucks each assuming he buys the yearly subscription.
Neuromancer
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Because in this case that option obviously takes away from the value of PS+.
Wozzer
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"The Vault is an evolving selection of EA's Xbox One games that EA Access members can download and play while an active member"
Drawing comparisons to PSN+;
The Vault <> Instant Game Collection
Pre-release Trials <> Full Game Trials
Exclusive Discounts <> Exclusive Discounts
From what I've seen I'd have this more akin to PSN+ than PSNow, only publisher exclusive instead of ecosystem (a bad trade-off in my opinion).
Colonel Nasty
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And what? Because Sony said no they'll now be forced to give away plus games and discounts?
This is something they offered last gen for the exact same price for only sports games and now you get their back catalog on top of that.
Exploratory
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Rofl I had to stop reading this thread for this post. The lengths people will go is amazing. This is an actual serious post!
SmokedMeat
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You do realize that sale was planned before this week right?
Holy shit are you for real?
Sony is totally charging because MS forced them to.
Also when live first came out there was almost no online for consoles. MS made a massive investment and it it's because of them PSN is what it became last gen or Sony would have been left in the dust
Lord Thrappleper The 49th
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I wholeheartedly distrust anything EA says or does. Anything brand spanking new hot fast/10 thing that they do I immediately think is a ripoff/there's a catch/they're lying/it's illegal. They'll never get that trust back, they are scum, their mothers are scum, their successors will be scum.
I can only hope the other publishers follow suit with Sony's stance. I pray for the day EA will go out of business.
I can only hope the other publishers follow suit with Sony's stance. I pray for the day EA will go out of business.
duessano
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Because increased server space and bandwidth aren't free? Because EA likes money a lot?
SolidSnakeUS
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They can't afford to pull their discounts and free games away from PS+ with this decision. If they chose to support EA Access, they could afford to give up free games/discounts on PS+ and put it all on EA Access instead. Why take away the value of PS+?
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Well EA service is for EA games when PS Now in not just for their games only, but a variety of other publishers. The comparison stops right there. Besides PS+ inspired this service so they kind of did add value, however it's being monetized.
well, i can see why sony wouldn't want another subscription that potencially can take away money. I don't have the tiniest, nanomolecular apiece of interest in ANY EA related thing, except from Viceral they still have salvation....but man dead space 3 was bad.
This is no lost for me, in fact Im glad knowing that PS Plus will have direct competition if they don't offer great games, since that's the judging point here.
This is no lost for me, in fact Im glad knowing that PS Plus will have direct competition if they don't offer great games, since that's the judging point here.
CosmicQueso
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So only one option... forever... that goes only through one company. Because the company knows what's good for you.
Something, for sure. And to fend off that the "other guys" have more choices, they wrap a "we did this for you" explanation around it. Questionable PR stuff all the way around, really.
I agree this would be a factor as well.
Why can't I play Halo on the Wii? Sorry, is that port-begging? But why not give players the option?
You guys talk about "options" like you don't implicitly support restrictions every day in this marketplace.
PS+ does more for Sony long term than it does for EA/other pubs. Its probably becoming a sticking point with the larger pubs (aka EA) akin to how Live once was before the price increase and behind the scenes profit sharing.
Moon_frogger
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It's in direct conflict with the ps plus service. I expect games like battlefield 4 to be eventually offered with ps Plus, not to have to fork over an additional 30 dollars a year for it. Do people actually want to pay more on top of their ps plus just because ea? That definitely sounds like a Microsoft thing.
mugoldeneagle03
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I'm usually in favor of what Sony's been doing this gen so far but I think that was a pretty bullshit response to a completely optional service.
I paid for Season Ticket a few times on PS3 when I was big into HUT on NHL. You actually get a lot of free/discounted stuff that helps you out a lot. Yes it makes EA more money, but if they're offering older games along with it it's not that bad of a deal at all.
Sony kind of seems sour over it and I don't know why other than they don't want EA stealing PS+ thunder when it comes to discounted games and such, which isn't the way to go. Just yesterday or the day before they were talking about how they wanted the PS4 to be the ultimate entertainment hub, well this would add to that....
Sports fans are like dudebro's and they'll lay down money to get their stuff when they want it even if the product isn't up to par. It's a bigger piece of the pie than Sony thinks. I'll also be pissed if this leads to more MS/EA deals in the future, since I probably won't be getting a XB1 until fall at the earliest...
Poor move Sony
I paid for Season Ticket a few times on PS3 when I was big into HUT on NHL. You actually get a lot of free/discounted stuff that helps you out a lot. Yes it makes EA more money, but if they're offering older games along with it it's not that bad of a deal at all.
Sony kind of seems sour over it and I don't know why other than they don't want EA stealing PS+ thunder when it comes to discounted games and such, which isn't the way to go. Just yesterday or the day before they were talking about how they wanted the PS4 to be the ultimate entertainment hub, well this would add to that....
Sports fans are like dudebro's and they'll lay down money to get their stuff when they want it even if the product isn't up to par. It's a bigger piece of the pie than Sony thinks. I'll also be pissed if this leads to more MS/EA deals in the future, since I probably won't be getting a XB1 until fall at the earliest...
Poor move Sony
ethomaz
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This.
And EA won't stop Sony to use their games in PS+ because they receive money from Sony for that.
Still doesn't work, since once again, they sell different fries. It's more like 2 different McDonald's having different rules, but again, these food analogies are horrible.
Dragonborn
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How do you know this? Do you have insider knowledge as to what the arrangement for PS+ is?
and if this happens you just stop supporting it. why is that so hard?
people are just inventing future scenarios to defend Sony's decision.
Schweinehund
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Sorry I expected evidence instead of "just EA is interested in making money, not anyone else".
There could have been a bunch of variables in there. Such as raffling of exclusive offers to the highest bidder.
I hate EA as much as anyone, and can understand Sony's position, but in the end, it should be up to the people paying to decide if it is good value or not.
The whole point of this country is if you want to eat garbage, balloon up to 600 pounds and die of a heart attack at 43, you can. You are free to do so.
The whole point of this country is if you want to eat garbage, balloon up to 600 pounds and die of a heart attack at 43, you can. You are free to do so.
Steverulez
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He is for real.
Xbox Live unified things and was/is a great service. PSN wouldn't have been anywhere near what it is now (free or part of PS+) without MS and Xbox Live. Competition is a great thing
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