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Ubi - "Wii U owners don't buy AC", Watch_Dogs their last M-rated WiiU release.
- Thread starter Mushroomer25
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Yeah Ubi is shit because they don't want to lose shitloads of money making games nobody buys
Smiles and Cries
Member
yeah I'm still going to experience whatever Watch Dogs is on WiiU out of Spite! lol
yeah the game sold well but I wonder if GTAV on PS4 and Sleeping Dogs will just take most of my play time from that game
I bought the Wii U Black Flag Edition.
lensoftruth
Member
As a Wii U owner I wouldn't buy an Assasins Creed or Watch Dogs game, or much else from Ubisoft to be fair.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Nah, most Nintendo-only fans who are looking for a new interesting game to play with good reviews and a recognizable name will not know what features are missing or didn't have any other choices if that is the only platform they own. Wii U had great versions of Tekken Tag 2, good port of Mass Effect 3, batman: AA and the best Ninja Gaiden 3 and they still didn't sell. PS3 was literally bombarded with a plethora of inferior third party efforts for at least half of the generation and most of them sold considerably well even though there were superior options out there like PC and X360. Shows the interest was there which basically persuaded third parties to invest more time and effort in to PS3 ports in the future.
Because it is already playable on Wii U?
I got a bridge to sell. Wanna buy it? Where was survival horror on PS3/360? Nowhere to be found. The best survival horror that was released was Amy. A downloadable game, that was torn down.
WrenchNinja
Member
I dont own any third party games on the Wii U.
Wait, actually I own Mega Man X on the WiiU VC.
Guess I'm part of the problem. *shrugs*
Wait, actually I own Mega Man X on the WiiU VC.
Guess I'm part of the problem. *shrugs*
Starwolf_UK
Member
So does that mean we [Wii U owners] passed their "test"?
I think the ACIII shitport poisoned the waters, still don't understand the gain from delaying Rayman (if it really was to port it to everything else so they could cry it didn't sell on Wii U) and as for ZombiU, it can give bad first impressions (even Smokeydave who loves the game initially called it something like; "gimmick launch game. With Zombies!")
I think the ACIII shitport poisoned the waters, still don't understand the gain from delaying Rayman (if it really was to port it to everything else so they could cry it didn't sell on Wii U) and as for ZombiU, it can give bad first impressions (even Smokeydave who loves the game initially called it something like; "gimmick launch game. With Zombies!")
Smiles and Cries
Member
This is not a true statement, I'm still waiting for Mario 3D World to reach 1million in Japan
do we even have 5 1million sellers World Wide yet on WiiU?
Not many really understand how badly WiiU has been selling
I don't blame Ubisoft if they want to jump ship but I can't say late ports and crap ports was helping a struggling platform.
Ubisoft does not need to support WiiU Nintendo needs to step up and give the fans more Mario and Zelda don't try to make fans feel bad about buying Mario when that is the only quality shit worth the money.
This is why you should buy a WiiU your Mario your Zelda, your Bayonetta, your Smash, your Karts, and maybe something about Pokemon
there is no other reason for a gamer to purchase a WiiU beyond wanting some Mario love.
Herbspiceguy
Member
I'm sure they're waiting in line for a late port though...
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I'm glad for your collection. And only the Wii version is playable, not the newer edition that they're touching up. If the audience was there, Capcom would've put it there. After all, they tried with Revelations.
Smiles and Cries
Member
you retail only guys always making me look bad for being eShop only
I own just 3 discs that smooth edge DVD not even Xbox 1 and PS4 fans will ever experience that smooth edge feels
Interceptor
Banned
This goalpost is too fast for me.
Davey Cakes
Member
ZombiU is tragic. I mean, the game being true survival horror (not RE6's idea if survival horror) made it a niche product regardless of what console it released on.
Also, I don't want to sound like an ass but I feel that the initial negative press was damning. If more critics "understood" the game out of the gate, perhaps the negativity could have been lessened. It was just too hardcore within the genre. People apparently weren't expecting a truly slow-paced survival game.
Of course now you have everyone singing the game's praises but it's too late.
Also, I don't want to sound like an ass but I feel that the initial negative press was damning. If more critics "understood" the game out of the gate, perhaps the negativity could have been lessened. It was just too hardcore within the genre. People apparently weren't expecting a truly slow-paced survival game.
Of course now you have everyone singing the game's praises but it's too late.
PdotMichael
Banned
Shovel Knight. The Soul Calibur with Link of our generation.
It's exactly the reason for the lackluster and dying third party support.
So you blame Ubisoft because they didn't try very hard to make people buy the Wii U versions instead of the others? Which is the incentive? Paying the same for something blatantly worse?
Is it really that difficult to understand that people don't give a shit about the Wii U versions and that's why they are abandoning the platform?
Is it really that difficult to understand that advertising doesn't change the user base of a system? You can throw millions in advertising and get nothing in return, because you're simply advertising something which is not appropriate for the audience.
I'm pretty sure Ubisoft has spent quite a lot of money and resources doing some high level market researches before taking this extreme decision. And I'm also pretty sure if they saw profits in the horizon they would have done otherwise.
So can we assume please that the Wii U userbase is not what many people want it to be? It is less and less a mainstream gaming platform.
That's really really bad for Wii U owners not planning to buy another system, as they are niche now, and will miss most of the stuff, but really really good for all the people willing to take the PS4/Xbox One + WiiU path, as they'll have an alternative system with no stupidly overlapping multiplats, on which Nintendo is forced to be very creative if they want to survive.
Smiles and Cries
Member
trying with Revelations to me means jumping from 3DS to WiiU
a jump from 3DS to everywhere else is a cash in dude it is just a cash in
Nintendo fans do support Capcom when they give an exclusive or 2 it worked on Gamecube so successful they never stopped porting it lol
WiiU is not going to get Capcom love unless Nintendo is willing to pay to publish
Of course only the Wii version is playable. Which is the unmodified original.
Why would I buy it a 3rd time? For horrible "16:9" "support" that uses pan+scan? the new REmake port is a cheap hackwork. They could have re-rendered the backgrounds at higher resolution. But nope, too hard. There are simply 0 reasons to buy it for someone, who already owns it on Wii and/or Gamecube.
It's nice that other platforms get it - finally. But let's be real here. Anyone who owns a Wii or Wii U would have already bought it.
Those versions were promoted at the very least. The Wii U versions weren't. Mass Effect 3 was missing DLC. EA announced the trilogy around the same time. I was ready to buy that version, but opted not to. Ninja Gaiden 3 was a late port of a game people weren't happy with in the first place. I wanted to pick up Tekken Tag, but my friends were already playing other versions.
Batman got hammered on day one. Let's not forget those pics going around laughing at how crappy that port was.
The PS3 guys at least knew they were getting support simply by it being connected to the 360. Did the PS3 miss out on online play or DLC that wasn't due to some sort of exclusivity deal?
I agree, but to be honest the newer edition doesn't really look that "new", based on the screenshots that have been released by Capcom.
protomouse
Member
Joke post? Even Nintendo's first party would suffer if this was even remotely the case.
Well as others have said, can't blame Ubisoft. I have Wii U and wouldn't buy (most) multi plat mature games on it either. Likely because they'd be better on PS4/X1/PC.
Personally don't have a problem with mature games on Wii U in general, the problem is Wii U's image or perhaps even worse, Nintendo image.
I don't know what gamer could commit to only a Nintendo console nowadays... Unless they literally have no interest in anything other than Nintendo games and the odd 3rd party who puts something on it. I have Wii U, but I certainly couldn't use it a primary platform. It's dust gathering right now in preparation for SSB and Bayonetta 2. It's pretty much an exclusive box atm, worth it for me, but I'm a...pretty dedicated gamer I guess, ha ha. That isn't the case for most people and I don't think Nintendo exclusives can make it up for the lack of the MANY games it doesn't get.
Part of this problem is Nintendo consoles seem mostly aimed at kids and Nintendo should have aimed to change that sooner. They tried at the beginning granted, but they expected 3rd parties to stay...and they didn't. Nintendos games don't need to change, that will attract kids alone, they just need to focus on everything else, and that's what they've been lacking, everything else.
Good on Ubisoft for at least trying to support it this long.
Personally don't have a problem with mature games on Wii U in general, the problem is Wii U's image or perhaps even worse, Nintendo image.
I don't know what gamer could commit to only a Nintendo console nowadays... Unless they literally have no interest in anything other than Nintendo games and the odd 3rd party who puts something on it. I have Wii U, but I certainly couldn't use it a primary platform. It's dust gathering right now in preparation for SSB and Bayonetta 2. It's pretty much an exclusive box atm, worth it for me, but I'm a...pretty dedicated gamer I guess, ha ha. That isn't the case for most people and I don't think Nintendo exclusives can make it up for the lack of the MANY games it doesn't get.
Part of this problem is Nintendo consoles seem mostly aimed at kids and Nintendo should have aimed to change that sooner. They tried at the beginning granted, but they expected 3rd parties to stay...and they didn't. Nintendos games don't need to change, that will attract kids alone, they just need to focus on everything else, and that's what they've been lacking, everything else.
Good on Ubisoft for at least trying to support it this long.
I'm not moving anything. Even after Durante's fix, DS port is still far from ideal and runs well only because gaming PCs are ridiculously more powerful than old gen consoles (and it's still locked at 30fps iirc). It's still a crappy port but PC gamers bought it anyway because they wanted it. PS3 gamers bought a ton of CoD even if it was the worst version and 360 had timed exclusive on DLCs because they wanted CoD no matter what.
Now ask yourself how many people want AC on WiiU. Sure, Ubi's strategy wasn't flawless, but let's not act like it's the main factor that prevented their games to be successful.
That's also on Ubisoft for not marketing it at all. Shit, it launched when The Walking Dead was exploding, but not one single commercial.
Also perhaps they could have done a better job hyping it up to journalist($$?) so they could have some fucking clue what the game was trying to do, before they wrote those god awful reviews and damned the game to an afterthought for many at launch.
I own both and I haven't bought it. Then again I'm not really into survival horror and zombie games.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's a fancy new game or anything. But they couldn't even be bothered to slap it on the eshop, and this is Capcom, who slaps out games on just about everything.
Revelations was an HD port with Wii U exclusive features, it failed to sell decently. And not everyone who wanted REmake had it then, take a look in the remastered thread to see posts asking about a Wii U version. Add off TV play, some maps like the DS version, bam, a port that's equal to the original with updated and exclusive features. Inventory on the touch screen? Yes, please!
Smiles and Cries
Member
I think every WiiU owner who is a Ubisoft fan should at least say goodbye to Ubisoft by buying Watch_Dogs
only getting the eShop version
the only other retail copies of games I will own is Bayonetta X and ZeldaU
just to put away eShop downloads 12am day 1
only getting the eShop version
the only other retail copies of games I will own is Bayonetta X and ZeldaU
just to put away eShop downloads 12am day 1
Linkstrikesback
Member
There are at least 7 million+ Sellers.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wiiu.html
At least those 6, + mario kart 8
Well, these titles actually didn't fare too well on Wii U:
Wii Fit U
Wii Sports: Club
Wonderful 101
DKC: TP
Sing Party
Pikmin 3
Game & Wario
People on both of those platforms didn't get shafted on features. Sure, they ran like crap, but they weren't missing anything. Can't say the same thing about Wii U versions. Missing features and poorly supported. On top of that, people have to beg or hold their breath hoping they'll get the next version. I've never had to worry about that on the other systems I own. At the end of the day, why bother?
I don't think Just Dance did so hot on the WiiU either last year. The Wii version sold a few million and I think the WiiU version only did a couple hundred thousand. IIRC, I think even the 360 version outsold the WiiU version.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I would remove at least 3 of those for being pack ins and cheating
Luigi U was like I dunno a whole other game but felt so much like an expansion pack to the Mario U
3D World should be number 1 I am sad about this
Hyrule Warriors
Bayonetta 2+1
and Smash4
are what I want to join that list before New Years
I will be extremely pissed if Nintendo Fans fail to make this happen
what a load of bullshit.
This is the long and the short of it. All the excuses in the world don't change the fact that nothing sells without a plumber or a dancer on the cover.
Hahaha.... No. I had pre-ordered WD and was ready to play it but... we all know what happened.
Mithos
Member
Why you doing this Ubisoft? Proving me right again....
I've always said why should I buy their games when I do not know if they are there for the long run....
You think this announcement will want me to buy Watch_Dogs? NO you just made me take my money and put it on a game I'll know will get a sequel/follow up.
THIS is the mistake 3rd parties are doing over and over again.
I've always said why should I buy their games when I do not know if they are there for the long run....
You think this announcement will want me to buy Watch_Dogs? NO you just made me take my money and put it on a game I'll know will get a sequel/follow up.
THIS is the mistake 3rd parties are doing over and over again.
I meant people, who are interested, would have bought it by now. Of course
The audience for actual hardcore survival horror is pretty small.Visualante2
Member
Reggie on Assassin's Creed: It's not the same content, but it's the same game.
CambriaRising
Member
If the market doesn't exist (relatively speaking), as evidence shows, then I can't blame them.
PdotMichael
Banned
Calm down your fanboy feelings.
shinra-bansho
Member
The past seven years have seen inferior ports on one of the platforms, and yet the PS3's third party software sales didn't nosedive off a cliff because of it. There are examples of delayed and or feature-incomplete ports at the beginning of that last generation for both the 360 and the PS3 that sold considerably better and/or well for their respective publishers. I played the terrible port of Bayonetta on the PS3, because that's what I owned, and I wanted to play it.
That the quality of certain ports dissuaded some of the more informed individuals on here may in fact be the case. That it's the primary reason for the generally incredibly poor third party software sales [in certain categories] is fallacy. The idea that the poor sales of these titles is some principled stand against inferior ports seems really more an attempt to minimize the idea that as a product the Wii U is simply poorly conceived and ill-suited for the demographic userbase that fuels the AAA-console industry, and as a result the software for that userbase has performed poorly.
Smiles and Cries
Member
oh come on forgive them this one last time they promise to stop trolling the WiiU like this because you guys don't buy things when they just delay what you cared about
I'll make you a deal I'll buy Rayman Legends and Watch Dogs on WiiU if you just buy Watch Dogs on WiiU?
Did you buy Rayman Legends on WiiU?
xValentine
Member
Isn't Ubisoft the 3rd party with the most games on the WiiU ?
The problem is, that the people who own a WiiU, who would be buying these kinds of games, in most cases also own a PS360, where they have been playing the previous outings, with achievements and DLC etc... or they own a PS4/XBO where superior versions can be found. I think there is a big part of the WiiU userbase that are WiiU only gamers, but these just aren't typically the people buying those types of games.
I'm a WiiU only gamer (don't even play on PC anymore) who bought AC3, AC4, Child of Light, ZombiU and Splinter Cell Blacklist. So i did my part.
I'm a WiiU only gamer (don't even play on PC anymore) who bought AC3, AC4, Child of Light, ZombiU and Splinter Cell Blacklist. So i did my part.
Infernal Monkey
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii U port of Watch Dogs is only released via the eShop anyway.
lol. don't take any personal offence.
you are completely and utterly incorrect in any word used in your sentence. that's ok though.
here's the thing. there are games on the wiuu that have OUTSOLD their 360/ps3/x1/ps4 counterparts.
which is embarrassing on itself considering the massive gap in user base.
it doesn't happen often, but when it does i feel it should be noticed…. because it says a lot about the genres that have potential on the platform, and the rest that don't.
do some research. make an 'informed' comment. THEN go back and re-read what you wrote. you were wrong. plain and simple.
my logic is pretty undeniable. your ignorance isn't.
just because i call you out on your factual innacuracy, doesn't make me a fanboy of whatever system is the topic of discussion.
i call out ignorance when i see it. if you don't like being called out, then don't be ignorant.
i think it's a real testament to how much nintendo screwed up this generation.
and it has everything to do with the image (or lack there of) of their wiiU system.
right from the outset from the reveal of the platform, it was a giant clusterfuck of marketing mistakes (debuting the wiiU with JUST the controller? were they on crack?).
there are still people today who think the wiiU is the actual gamepad & not a brand new system. it's ridiculous.
the problem isn't the library of games they are personally responsible for. the whole line of "games sell systems" is only half true.
in order to maximise the potential of the platform you need to make the hardware ITSELF appealing. in any sense of the word.
generation after generation we see evidence of people ignoring good games because it's not on their 'system of choice' (the latest incarnation of which has taken the form of port-begging). we need to stop pretending that this isn't an issue.
games are pivotal to the sustainability of a platform, but selling the hardware itself is a combination of appealing software made exclusively on appealing hardware.
1 of the two is not enough for a successful console. you need them both, and nintendo has forgotten how to make their home console hardware appealing.