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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty

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You know, now that we have Bowser, Bowser Jr., and all the koopalings...how do we not have a dedicated Bowser's Castle stage? NSMBW transition doesn't count, don't let me down Sakurai!
 
So, since they seem to be going all out on the character costumes with Jr.'s Koopaling looks (and, apparently, maybe Olimar with Alph based on the original text leak?), I wonder if the same could hold true for Daisy as a Peach alt, finally...

I would've expected a true Daisy alternate to Peach at this point if it weren't for how shitty Nintendo treats her.
 

Hatchtag

Banned
When we're talking about Brawl Ganondorf, yes, it's a terrible thing.

Eh. Depends. We need to know a bit more to be able to tell if he'll suck or not. The knockback from his Up B was...underwhelming. And sadly, we couldn't see if he regains a jump after divekicking like he did in Melee. And there's a lot of other subtle changes we'll need to hear about before deciding if this Ganondorf will suck like in Brawl or be good like in Melee.
For what it's worth, his Up Smash looks faster.
 

Fiktion

Banned
So the final roster is 48 including the 3 in the clone corner.

So basically 45.

I guess that's about what we expected. Still though, the cuts... Why...

No Mewtwo is hard to swallow.
 
Since all of the leaks have been fairly covered and there doesn't seem to be new info popping up soon, let's say you're Sakurai. You can put 5 more characters in the game, regardless of if they're veterans or newcomers. Who do you pick?

qq moe
afoni
Beelzebufo
Lucina's boots
JC Denton
 
How is the old palutena leak fake? Isn't she already confirmed in the game?

Yeah, but one of the leakers claims to have faked the initial pre E3 "leak".

I don't believe him.

*EDIT* You know, why would someone who has legitimate leaked information about Smash also go to all the effort of making a fake-oh-wait-it's-true-but-it's-still-fake image of Palutena? Makes zero sense, survey says? He's lying.
 
Wow, lotsa information to take in...

I'm actually most disappointed by Falcondorf. I mean, Sakurai makes an effort to rework Bowser (who already has a unique moveset), but he doesn't rework Ganondorf?

Although I liked Ice Climbers, I was pretty much expecting them to be cut from when Sakurai said they were having problems implementing them. I still have some hope for them though. I feel they're going to try until the last minute to implement them, but if it doesn't work out, they're going to be cut.

I don't really mind Lucas being cut either. His moveset was broken in Brawl, and I never really enjoyed as playing as him. His special moves can easily be translated into custom moves for Ness. I do think that the Mother series deserves more reps because it's such a great series.

Dark Pit is acceptable to me as a clone, but Dr. Mario?! He was a shameless clone in Melee (I mean it's just Mario wearing a doctor's get-up) and was rightfully cut in Brawl. I think Sakurai has enough ideas to make Dark Pit interesting considering the fact that Kid Icarus is his brainchild.

The new characters (like Shulk, Bowser Jr., ect) are really better than what I could've expected. Completely original movesets (I'm really looking forward to Bowser Jr.'s moveset) from different franchises are all I really wanted. Plus, we get to have Xenoblade music as battle music!

I was on #TeamFake from the first leaked pics but I admit defeat now. And I can legitimately say that I'm happy to have been wrong.
 

kiri

Member
I don't know about you guys, but is anyone else pissed at the leak?

I mean, I am fine with the character list and the actual leak itself but the fact that an ESRB employee was the one to do the leaking is what has really pissed me off.

NoA are forced to submit their work in order to get a rating and in turn get their work leaked early. It's a real shame.

If it was some random corner shop that got it early then that would be ok but I just have a sour taste in my mouth because of this employees actions.
 
Right know im only going to believe the July leak, becuase he had all things pin down perfectly (it's literally impossible to predict all those things correctly).
So Dixie, Chorus Men, Mewtwo and Ridley. And I will be really happy with that ending list.
The only thing that makes me really sad are the Ice Climbers gone.

If at the end they dont appear in the game, well its still not the end of the world.

This is what i really wanted from the start when the game was shown, with the lots of alts inclusion in the leak. So I will have to eat crow and ask forgiveness for saying that Sakurai was not doing everything right that was obvious, becuase it seems thank god it did.
 
Soooo......
where's the line for the blowjob?
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Yokai

Member
Yeah, but one of the leakers claims to have faked the initial pre E3 "leak".

I don't believe him.

*EDIT* You know, why would someone who has legitimate leaked information about Smash also go to all the effort of making a fake-oh-wait-it's-true-but-it's-still-fake image of Palutena? Makes zero sense, survey says? He's lying.

Seems more likely he ripped the data off the 3ds cart and opened palutenas model data.

Would explain the dlc character leak as well.
 

JoeInky

Member
Dark Pit is acceptable to me as a clone, but Dr. Mario?! He was a shameless clone in Melee (I mean it's just Mario wearing a doctor's get-up) and was rightfully cut in Brawl. I think Sakurai has enough ideas to make Dark Pit interesting considering the fact that Kid Icarus is his brainchild.

It's not as if he has to make Dr. Mario exactly the same


If he has "enough interesting ideas" to differentiate Dark Pit, he sure as hell should have enough ideas to differentiate Dr. Mario.
 
Yeah, but one of the leakers claims to have faked the initial pre E3 "leak".

I don't believe him.

*EDIT* You know, why would someone who has legitimate leaked information about Smash also go to all the effort of making a fake-oh-wait-it's-true-but-it's-still-fake image of Palutena? Makes zero sense, survey says? He's lying.

You've seen the images, right?

 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
I don't know about you guys, but is anyone else pissed at the leak?

I mean, I am fine with the character list and the actual leak itself but the fact that an ERSB employee was the one to do the leaking is what has really pissed me off.

NoA are forced to submit their work in order to get a rating and in turn get their work leaked early. It's a real shame.

If it was some random corner shop that got it early then that would be ok but I just have a sour taste in my mouth because of this employees actions.
Has this happened before? Because if not this could have some repercussions. Like you said, publisher are forced to submit games to the ESRB so there is a level of trust that must be maintained but this leak has completely destroyed that.

I'm sure Nintendo will want answers.
 

Timeaisis

Member
I'm on Team Ridley as much as the next guy, but have we ever had any solid evidence that he was in the game? Not like a post with Ridley mentioned who's quoting another post, like a list from a confirmed leaker that alludes to him being in the game.
 
Its probably going to play like duck hunt I guess for DHD's Final Smash.

Like Dog disappears and an aiming reticle shows up on the screen and you can shoot players for a limited period? Like Snake's FS, right? That'd be cool.

They cut Snake because his FS was too similar to Duck Hunt's - CONFIRMED.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
So the final roster is 48 including the 3 in the clone corner.

So basically 45.

I guess that's about what we expected. Still though, the cuts... Why...

No Mewtwo is hard to swallow.

It's not over yet, and MewTwo could be one of them.
 

Toxi

Banned
Eh. Depends. We need to know a bit more to be able to tell if he'll suck or not. The knockback from his Up B was...underwhelming. And sadly, we couldn't see if he regains a jump after divekicking like he did in Melee. And there's a lot of other subtle changes we'll need to hear about before deciding if this Ganondorf will suck like in Brawl or be good like in Melee.
For what it's worth, his Up Smash looks faster.
His jab looks even slower.
 
I'm on Team Ridley as much as the next guy, but have we ever had any solid evidence that he was in the game? Not like a post with Ridley mentioned who's quoting another post, like a list from a confirmed leaker that alludes to him being in the game.

Nothing concrete except that July post that is apparently a combination of other posts. So no, I don't think so.
 

Tathanen

Get Inside Her!
I don't know about you guys, but is anyone else pissed at the leak?

I mean, I am fine with the character list and the actual leak itself but the fact that an ESRB employee was the one to do the leaking is what has really pissed me off.

NoA are forced to submit their work in order to get a rating and in turn get their work leaked early. It's a real shame.

If it was some random corner shop that got it early then that would be ok but I just have a sour taste in my mouth because of this employees actions.

I think I'd have to say that if I had the option, I'd prefer if the leak didn't happen. I mean I'm enjoying it as best I can since it HAS happened, but I'd have rather found out all this stuff in the way they had originally intended. I feel bad for the people who put together the original plan, reveal videos and all that. Oh well.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
Like Dog disappears and an aiming reticle shows up on the screen and you can shoot players for a limited period? Like Snake's FS, right? That'd be cool.

They cut Snake because his FS was too similar to Duck Hunt's - CONFIRMED.

Looks like Zero Suit samus won't be making it to the final game then.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Yeah, but one of the leakers claims to have faked the initial pre E3 "leak".

I don't believe him.

*EDIT* You know, why would someone who has legitimate leaked information about Smash also go to all the effort of making a fake-oh-wait-it's-true-but-it's-still-fake image of Palutena? Makes zero sense, survey says? He's lying.
So I guess it is now #TeamReal's turn to prove that the original images were real.
 
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