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[Trevelyan9999]

My prediction for 2015 on Wii U:

-Great 1st party games that we already know about and looking forward to.

-Some cookie cutter license games like another Lego or movie based adaptation game.

-TONS of great Indie games on the eShop.

For how great the Wii U has been for exclusives:

 

[Curler]

I imagine Story of Seasons was pushed into 2015.
It's October, and we've heard nothing on it.

Guess you didn't see this?

 

[fedexpeon]

Yeah, there aren't anything after 2014.
All the games that I wanted are in Q4 of this year.
After that...nothing.
But Q4 2014 and Q1 2015 are filled with games for other systems though.
Majority of my budget will be allocated to these systems instead.

 

[botty]

uh... is the Wii U 3rd party line up in morse code?

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

I think Nintendo's own development approach will surely change, what was valid years a go is not valid now and the rules of the game changed. Based on Iwata's last major keynote he hinted a huge change in Nintendo is imminent and I'm not just speaking about QOL. I expect Nintendo will flesh out their new perspective either by the end of this year or early next year.

The problem is far greater than just lack of third parties.

 

[JordanN]

You say that as though they haven't tried. Every launch western port had some kind of money or deal behind it (just like the Wii u actually). Throwing money around infinitely for little return isn't the solution to a bigger problem.

So what do you suggest they do? If you look at what actually sells on 3DS, Nintendo hasn't fostered an environment for them.

There's Monster Hunter and some RPG's I guess. Nothing like the casual haven that the DS was, so you're asking Publishers to take risks on their hardware. Why do that, when they can spend their money else where, and actually make it back?

 

[Koppai]

Fossil Fighters is coming over too.

 

[Steel]

Well, there's a reason why most people don't go pure nintendo consoles.

 

[Sandfox]

So what do you suggest they do? If you look at what actually sells on 3DS, Nintendo hasn't fostered an environment for them.

There's Monster Hunter and some RPG's I guess. Nothing like the casual haven that the DS was, so you're asking Publishers to take risks on their hardware. Why do that, when they can spend their money else where, and actually make it back?

Well its not like 3rd parties can't make money on the 3DS. A lot of the support it gets seems to do decent enough.

 

[JordanN]

Well its not like 3rd parties aren't/can't make money on the 3DS.

Opportunity cost.

They could greenlit a 3DS game and make some money/break even or they could greenlight a PS3/360/PS4/XBO/PC title instead and make far more profit in a safer environment.
Publishers need incentives, and what does the 3DS have that DS did? DS had casuals, 3DS is Nintendo core going by that list.

 

[IsntChrisL]

I think it's kind of nuts that so many developers are ignoring a system as popular as the 3DS. The Wii U, although I want much better support, I at least understand. The 3DS seems to be getting snubbed purely because of the success of smartphones.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Luckily, I own a PC for third-party games.

 

[sörine]

There's also a ton of good indies for 2015 on Wii U. Off the top of my head Rive, Steamworld Heist, Mighty No. 9, The Last Penelope, Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, Affordable Space Adventures, The Girl and the Robot, Chromophore: Two Brothers, Starwahl, Cosmochoria, Adventures of Pip, Hyper Light Drifter, Heart Forth Alicia, Insanity's Blade, A.N.N.E., Hover, Tadpole Treble, Forma 8, Aztez, The 90s Arcade Racer (plz Nicalis), Paradise Lost and Project Cars. And probably a bunch more I'm forgetting. Maybe we can do a L@@K over 150 upcoming Wii U games thread next year?

 

[batbeg]

Is what it is. I'm a little sad about it, but when I see the kind of major third party titles we get these days I don't much give a fuck. I'd like to see the mid-tier publishers embrace the Wii U, somewhat like the Wii was greatly supported by smaller-scale third party titles (that were great, fuck this ridiculous notion that the Wii didn't have any good third party support), but I just don't see it happening Luckily indies are largely supplanting the need for that category of developer/publisher anyway.

There -is- Devil's Third, aaand I'm sure the next Just Dance, Lego and Skylander games will make their way there

Sure sure, but first party games don't particularly influence these kinds of lists!

 

[Sandfox]

Opportunity cost.

They could greenlit a 3DS game and make some money/break even or they could greenlight a PS3/360/PS4/XBO/PC title instead and make far more profit in a safer environment.
Publishers need incentives, and what does the 3DS have that DS did? DS had casuals, 3DS is Nintendo core going by that list.

The DS list is basically the same thing.

That has more to do with consoles being more popular in the west and in Japan the games that do come seem to do well enough to make their money back. The issue now is that most devs want to either make cheap mobile titles or make games that sell to the west and that was going to hurt Nintendo's handheld platforms no matter what they did.

 

[Rootbeer]

I love Nintendo so very much... but i'm sick and tired of the first party only experience they are cultivating (mostly on Wii U.) I wish I could say I hope for it to change in the next cycle... but I have difficulty seeing that.

 

[Richie]

Sure sure, but first party games don't particularly influence these kinds of lists!

Me oh my! Chalk that up to a brain fart.

 

[Phil S.]

Hero of Legend is one of the biggest Nintendo fans on this forum, so I wouldn't count on it. Like me, he's probably depressed that there are literally zero worthwhile third party games coming out for the Wii U.

I don't see how a lot of people didn't see that coming. When the big third-party games at launch were pretty much ports, the future was pretty clear.

Nintendo has shown zero intentions of addressing third-party support in an actual proactive fashion. Thus, I will not go to its consoles and platforms looking for third-party support.

The "Oh, we're seriously looking at third-party support THIS time, guys" paraphrased garbage from Iwata and company stopped being promising to read ages ago, so I have no faith in the company to fix its myriad issues.

 

[sörine]

So what do you suggest they do? If you look at what actually sells on 3DS, Nintendo hasn't fostered an environment for them.

There's Monster Hunter and some RPG's I guess. Nothing like the casual haven that the DS was, so you're asking Publishers to take risks on their hardware. Why do that, when they can spend their money else where, and actually make it back?

Wikipedia?

Okay, number of 3rd party million sellers by platform according to Wikipedia:

3DS: 9
One: 3
PS4: 0
WiiU: 0
Vita: 0

 

[weekev]

Opportunity cost.

They could greenlit a 3DS game and make some money/break even or they could greenlight a PS3/360/PS4/XBO/PC title instead and make far more profit in a safer environment.
Publishers need incentives, and what does the 3DS have that DS did? DS had casuals, 3DS is Nintendo core going by that list.

Yeah but lets be honest, its so barren that it almost becomes less risky. There are a lot of third party games coming out on the other platforms to the point that 2015 is insane. If you made a good game that makes use of the unique features on WiiU or 3DS right now, its almost guaranteed to make money because it will have some spotlight.

In saying that I realise my argument can be shot down immediately with Bayonetta as an example. Man I hope that shocks everyone and turns out to be a smash hit.

 

[javadoze]

NA: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (Capcom), Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX (Sega)

Yep, that's all I need for early 2015. Pretty sad on the WiiU front, though.

Maybe there's going to be a 3DS-focused Direct soon with some stealth announcements?

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Wii U = 1st party console. I accepted that fate a while ago.

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[JordanN]

Wikipedia?

Okay, number of 3rd party million sellers by platform according to Wikipedia:

3DS: 9
One: 3
PS4: 0
WiiU: 0
Vita: 0

You think the 3DS will have more 3rd party sellers than PS4/XBO? We already know 3rd party games that sell best on consoles than on handhelds. I also think Sony/MS will provide a much bigger push for 3rd party on their new consoles than Nintendo has with their own. We already see this with titles like Destiny being marketed heavily for PS4 or Titanfall with XBO.

 

[sörine]

You think the 3DS will have more 3rd party sellers than PS4/XBO? We already know 3rd party games that sell best on consoles than on handhelds. I also think Sony/MS will provide a much bigger push for 3rd party on their new consoles than Nintendo has with their own.

Not according to Wikipedia.

 

[Sandfox]

You think the 3DS will have more 3rd party sellers than PS4/XBO? We already know 3rd party games that sell best on consoles than on handhelds. I also think Sony/MS will provide a much bigger push for 3rd party on their new consoles than Nintendo has with their own.

I think he's trying to discredit Wikipedia as a source more than anything else.

 

[B.O.O.M]

uh... is the Wii U 3rd party line up in morse code?

lol dunno why but thought this was very clever/funny. Well done

 

[Basileus777]

It's not like the 3DS had much of any 3rd party games in 2014 in the West. Even the 3rd party games that do come out need to be published by Nintendo when localized. I miss 2013 when the 3DS' software lineup was great.

 

[flatearthpandas]

3DS is surprisingly quiet for next year, but then Youkai Watch 2 is on track to hit 3 million in Japan before the end of the year and the west will get to try our teeth on that one next year. Atlus will probably continue to take care of us, Square Enix will continue to take advantage of their fans with lazy sequels and fanservice cash-ins.

Wii U... I think we ask saw this coming. Dog shit support from the beginning. Everyone is to blame there.

You think the 3DS will have more 3rd party sellers than PS4/XBO?

Not if they don't release any more, obviously. But that was some good backtracking.

 

[casiopao]

Fossil Fighters is coming over too.

And Project Steam also.

For 3DS, I am not worried any bit here. While for Wii U, yeah it is sad.

 

[Infernal Monkey]

Europe will get Shin Megami Tensei IV in late 2015. Probably. Might get pushed to Q1 2016 but I've got a good feeling.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Europe will get Shin Megami Tensei IV in late 2015. Probably. Might get pushed to Q1 2016 but I've got a good feeling.

And the only way to buy it will be as pre-installed on a New 3DS limited bundle

Spoiler

of course then it'll also be recalled after a week for a game breaking bug which will never be fixed

 

[walnuts]

Europe will get Shin Megami Tensei IV in late 2015. Probably. Might get pushed to Q1 2016 but I've got a good feeling.

I was going to ask to add that game for the European list. I'm late.

 

[LiamR]

Nobody buys Nintendo consoles for their third party games.

 

[batbeg]

Fossil Fighters is coming over too.

And Project Steam also.

For 3DS, I am not worried any bit here. While for Wii U, yeah it is sad.

Third party guys. Like, not Nintendo published

 

[SmokyDave]

Wii U:

NA: ... --- ...
EU: ... --- ...
JP: Lego Marvel (WB Games)

*sigh*

Fixed that for you chap.

 

[Mariolee]

Wii U = 1st party console. I accepted that fate a while ago.

I'm totally OK with this too. Unfortunately it's not sustainable.

 

[Yoshi]

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That's basically it. Take it or leave it.

Unless there's like one surprise they show us in a Direct soon

Do you really think there won't be at least a version of the 2015 Sonic game for Wii U, too? After building the base on Wii U with three games, as well as Smash and Mario & Sonicreleased up until then, versus none for PS4/XB1, it would be rather strange to leave out the Wii U for the next game.

 

[Griss]

I really hope Nintendo doesn't think the New 3DS will extend that thing's life too much, because that system is coming to the end stage. If they hope to boost hardware sales in order to keep selling their evergreens, like I suspect, with a new handheld currently in the works for 2016 at the latest, then that's fine.

But 2015 is the last viable year for 3DS as a major platform, imo, and even that feels like it's stretching it with 3DS software sales here in Europe.

 

[cacildo]

My prediction for 2015 on Wii U:

-Great 1st party games that we already know about and looking forward to.

-Some cookie cutter license games like another Lego or movie based adaptation game.

-TONS of great Indie games on the eShop.

For how great the Wii U has been for exclusives:

Im totally ok with this

The only third party retail game i do not regret buying is ZombiU.
Aside from that, i cant see a single 3rd party game that i want. On any system.

3rd parties arent the same as they were in ps2 days.

 

[dragonfart28]

It's the market.

There are less third party AAA games on all platforms compared to last gen.

 

[Josh7289]

Nintendo's been contracting third parties to help develop games using their IP lately. So, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if companies like Koei Tecmo and Bandai Namco were doing better than ever on Nintendo platforms lately.

 

[Huff]

Nintendo's lack of support for the 3ds is the surprising part.

 

[lewisgone]

Nintendo's lack of support for the 3ds is the surprising part.

Pretty much. I guess they might be working on New 3DS exclusive titles?

 

[meppi]

I really miss titles like Meteos and Bagaio for the 3DS, not to mention real 2D Castlevania games instead of the outsourced crap we got.

I know it's 1st party, but it feels like I'm the only one really hyped to see Code Name S.T.E.A.M. in 2015 as well.

 

[FourMyle]

There's also a ton of good indies for 2015 on Wii U. Off the top of my head Rive, Steamworld Heist, Mighty No. 9, The Last Penelope, Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, Affordable Space Adventures, The Girl and the Robot, Chromophore: Two Brothers, Starwahl, Cosmochoria, Adventures of Pip, Hyper Light Drifter, Heart Forth Alicia, Insanity's Blade, A.N.N.E., Hover, Tadpole Treble, Forma 8, Aztez, The 90s Arcade Racer (plz Nicalis), Paradise Lost and Project Cars. And probably a bunch more I'm forgetting. Maybe we can do a L@@K over 150 upcoming Wii U games thread next year?

Wow. Impressive. Not even people who actually get paid to PR for a living could do this,

 

[SliceSabre]

Etrian Odyssey 2 Remake and Final Fantasy Explorers along with Project Mirai.

I'm happy with that next year.

 

[upandaway]

Please tell me Project Mirai is likely to come to Europe too. I will be really upset if it pulls an SMT4.

 

[Phil S.]

Wow. Impressive. Not even people who actually get paid to PR for a living could do this,

The last line of his post is a good idea. Would make for a lot less "what games are coming out for the Wii U" stuff! I'd be a subscriber to that topic!

 

[mocolostrocolos]

Wii U = 1st party console. I accepted that fate a while ago.

Pretty much, and that's what my shelf looks like. Only first party games (with ZombiU as an intruder).

 

[Starwolf_UK]

Shouldn't the OP say retail somewhere. I guess digital opens the floodgates of 5+ games churned out by RCMADIAX etc though...which is a shame as a lot of quality games and not worth releasing in retail outside of Japan get totally overlooked.

Europe will get Shin Megami Tensei IV in late 2015. Probably. Might get pushed to Q1 2016 but I've got a good feeling.

You know, if you having nothing useful to say you don't have to troll Atlus. Besides that game is digital and Hero of Legend isn't including those.

Please tell me Project Mirai is likely to come to Europe too. I will be really upset if it pulls an SMT4.

&

Also, was Miku confirmed for EU officially?

I would expect Miku to be digital only in Europe. The PS3 game release was like that.

Nobody buys Nintendo consoles for their third party games.

No but it isn't a sin to play them either. Thing is look back 10 years ago. Many big third party games were on Gamecube. I guess there is nothing you can do by making the hardware so odd compared to all the other systems out there so ports are impossible. Then there is the thing of them not selling now, wonder if that is people are more likely to own multiple hardware now than they were 10 years ago (you would thing the opposite was true because hardware costs a lot more now).

For a real laugh at how third party relations have changed look at EA. Consider that Little Mac was in Fight Night 2 (plus Super Punch-Out was playable) and Mario was in SSX.