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[Ein Bear]

I really appreciate how we're getting the Halo 5 beta about a year before release. It's actually a beta, as opposed to the 'pre-release demo' that the phrase seems to be associated with nowadays, when the beta hits about a week before the game goes gold.

It's cool that it's actually being used to test things and gives the devs plenty of time to respond to feedback.

 

[aj1467]

I can handle sprint tbh. Plus I kinda like being able to sprint in campaign. More concerned about what Spartan Abilities are and how they'll play out.

Fingers crossed that whatever they have cooked up works better than last time (H4).

 

[Omni]

I've feel like we've made progress here today, HaloGAF

 

[GrizzNKev]

As long as sprint is punishable. My biggest complaint was that it only existed to correct mistakes for free, which killed the flow of combat.

 

[jem0208]

As long as sprint is punishable. My biggest complaint was that it only existed to correct mistakes for free, which killed the flow of combat.

Didn't that leak say that your shields can't be recharged whilst sprinting?

Sounds like it's pretty easy to punish people if that is the case.

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

I've feel like we've made progress here today, HaloGAF

:')

 

[GrizzNKev]

Didn't that leak say that your shields can't be recharged whilst sprinting?

Sounds like it's pretty easy to punish people if that is the case.

And if that isn't true, and it works the same as before, how shold I react?

 

[Poker Face]

what a day that was

ah I won't ever forget it.

 

[Poodlestrike]

And if that isn't true, and it works the same as before, how shold I react?

Poorly, of course. But I think that so long as we can keep it civil, we can use the beta to fix most of the problems.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

There's just no way Halo 5 won't have sprint. Its probably the most requested feature of non-Halo fans. They poll people why they don't play Halo, they say "no sprint".

Course that didn't stop them from not playing Halo 4 shortly after release and went back to CoD, but hey 4+ million sold they got our money

 

[jem0208]

And if that isn't true, and it works the same as before, how shold I react?

That's up to you I guess. Not something we should really dictate.


I never really encountered that many people running away with sprint myself. It happened occasionally, not enough to have a major impact IMO.

 

[VinFTW]

Faster movement speed thatn H2 w/ Thrusters (directional) for occasiaonl speeding up. It's not that fucking hard.

Some of you are simply living in a fantasy world. Sprint doesn't work. We have 2+ years of BETA (Halo 4) feedback that sprint works in no scenario. But yeah, let's "give them feedback" in the beta.

They already have all the feedback they would ever need for a life-time on why sprint is bad for Halo and they STILL didn't listen. This isn't a franchise for Halo or fans, it's a franchise for the flavor of the month. An all-stars game made of the "flavor of the month" games every 3 years. It's a joke is what it is.

I was ready to be cool with other changes that are at least new, maybe expanding on thrusters because that seems cool, but sprint? Fuck it, they deserve everything they're gonna get on Monday. Like Cyren said, it's going to be "interesting".

God damnit.

 

[z2114422]

Hey guys, why not wait till monday to judge the sprint thing?

Maybe sprint is getting punished now by depleting shield or someting else.
After all, sprint is a major feature in FPS games these days, and it is maybe neccesary to add that to attract new players.

As long as well-designed punishment exists, I can accept that.

 

[klodeckel]

I just want to throw in that sprint was clearly not the reason Halo 4 struggled with its multiplayer component.

There only needs to be one more strategic downside component added to it (e.g. shields don't recharge, longer time to be able to aim again etc). Sprint itself isn't a problem. It will become a problem as soon as you can just use it at no costs.

 

[The Flash]

I'm okay with some form of fast walking

 

[JoeDanny]

I'm okay with some form of fast walking

How about default movement speed being fast? I wish they'd stop trying to be so "modern"... It's the reason Halo dropped off the face of the Earth in the first place

 

[Captain Friendo]

I'm okay with some form of fast walking

I would hope so seeing as you're The Flash.

 

[RoKKeR]

Hey guys, why not wait till monday to judge the sprint thing?

Maybe sprint is getting punished now by depleting shield or someting else.
After all, sprint is a major feature in FPS games these days, and it is maybe neccesary to add that to attract new players.

As long as well-designed punishment exists, I can accept that.

Sprint depleting shields so you can get 2-3 shotted? I just can't see that not being a shit show.

I agree there needs to be a limit/punishment.

 

[Defect]

As soon as I saw sprint in the Halo 4 first look, I knew it was going to be a bad game. And now it's happening again.

But I will wait until I see footage of the gameplay.

 

[The Flash]

Shield depletes as you sprint

 

[Raide]

Should get my MCC tomorrow. Thinking about doing my first twitch streaming stuff with some Forge randomness.

 

[jem0208]

I just want to throw in that sprint was clearly not the reason Halo 4 struggled with its multiplayer component.

There only needs to be one more strategic downside component added to it (e.g. shields don't recharge, longer time to be able to time again etc). Sprint itself isn't a problem. It will become a problem as soon as you can just use it at no costs.

It's quite annoying when people throw out Halo 4's population numbers as a way of saying any of it's features are bad.


Sprint wasn't the only contributing factor to it's population decline. It probably wasn't even a blip compared to the infinity bullshit.

 

[klodeckel]

Shield depletes as you sprint

Now THIS would be very interesting!

 

[Welfare]

Oh man. This week will just be good!*

*

Spoiler

As long as I get my MCC on Tuesday and Halo 5 doesn't turn out to be another Halo 4.

 

[Masterz117]

Seriously. Fuck sprint. Toggling between mobility and shooting is fundamentally inconsistent with what Halo's about. I'm not waiting for the beta; we've already had 2+ years of sprint and it has been proven that it sucks balls and is broken in the Halo sandbox. 343i is well aware that we hate it, they're just too damn stubborn and want to attract the CoD crowd. Doing so has proven to be absolutely catastrophic. I'm fine with thrusters and even fucking jetpack, but sprint should not be in the game.

 

[BeamImpact]

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[iMax]

Faster movement speed thatn H2 w/ Thrusters (directional) for occasiaonl speeding up. It's not that fucking hard.

Some of you are simply living in a fantasy world. Sprint doesn't work. We have 2+ years of BETA (Halo 4) feedback that sprint works in no scenario. But yeah, let's "give them feedback" in the beta.

They already have all the feedback they would ever need for a life-time on why sprint is bad for Halo and they STILL didn't listen. This isn't a franchise for Halo or fans, it's a franchise for the flavor of the month. An all-stars game made of the "flavor of the month" games every 3 years. It's a joke is what it is.

I was ready to be cool with other changes that are at least new, maybe expanding on thrusters because that seems cool, but sprint? Fuck it, they deserve everything they're gonna get on Monday. Like Cyren said, it's going to be "interesting".

God damnit.

Are you saying all of Halo 4's failings are rooted in sprint?

 

[Welfare]

Seriously. Fuck sprint. Toggling between mobility and shooting is fundamentally inconsistent with what Halo's about. I'm not waiting for the beta; we've already had 2+ years of sprint and it has been proven that it sucks balls and is broken in the Halo sandbox. 343i is well aware that we hate it, they're just too damn stubborn and want to attract the CoD crowd. Doing so has proven to be absolutely catastrophic. I'm fine with thrusters and even fucking jetpack, but sprint should not be in the game.

But but but but, but, when there are no vehicles on the map, how is someone supposed to get to fights faster?

 

[The Flash]

Now THIS would be very interesting!

"In order to achieve faster movement, Mjolnir Mk# armor required additional power. This power was taken from the armor's shield generator".

 

[Nowise10]

Anyone have another link to the Halo 5 video?

 

[titusandronicus]

Anyone have another link to the Halo 5 video?

Came here to ask this as well.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Hey, do we know when the Halo Channel is going up? It'd be sweet if they had it in the store in time for Halo Fest.

 

[z2114422]

It's quite annoying when people throw out Halo 4's population numbers as a way of saying any of it's features are bad.


Sprint wasn't the only contributing factor to it's population decline. It probably wasn't even a blip compared to the infinity bullshit.

Yeah, so many reasons other than sprint.

Random weapon respawn, loadouts, experience based level design, etc.
Also there are more competitors than ever. COD, BF, and many other FPS titles are out their.
And 343i didn't resond quick enough to make changes that could save the situation.

The only chance for Halo 5 to shine again is to be a extremely superior game and respond to its fans well. Hope that will happend.

 

[Masterz117]

Certainly not surprised that sprint's in, but deeply disappointed. Welp, looks like I'll just keep playing MCC, which I'm perfectly fine with.

 

[Poker Face]

Anyone have another link to the Halo 5 video?

its less than two seconds of off-screen footage where someone is sprinting and carrying an AR. if it's not re-uploaded you really arent missing anything. just boot up halo 4

 

[z2114422]

What Halo 5 video? Not the prologue thing from the MCC?

There was a leak video few post ago. Already blocked by MS.

It's about the making of Halo 5 beta, which is released on HALO channel.
It shows probably 2 seconds of gameplay in the background which sprint is presented.

 

[Welfare]

its less than two seconds of off-screen footage where someone is sprinting and carrying an AR. if it's not re-uploaded you really arent missing anything. just boot up halo 4

Was it made in a barn?

And fuck Sprint.

 

[Poker Face]

Was it made in a barn?

And fuck Sprint.

lol im going to to my shed to make barngate 0.5

 

[Gnome Scat]

There was a leak video few post ago. Already blocked by MS.

It's about the making of Halo 5 beta, which is released on HALO channel.
It shows probably 2 seconds of gameplay in the background which sprint is presented.

At least they'll get feedback on it about 9 months before the game ships. But Sprint on Midship? This is making me think that Arena will be a few 4v4 gametypes with traditional gameplay while everything else is going to be "modern" Halo again.

 

[Masterz117]

Was it made in a barn?

And fuck Sprint.

Halo 5 OT: Fuck Sprint

 

[Ampoc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFNT6P7oJgA

There's the leak for those who haven't seen it yet.

 

[TheOhrenberger.]

Seriously. Fuck sprint. Toggling between mobility and shooting is fundamentally inconsistent with what Halo's about. I'm not waiting for the beta; we've already had 2+ years of sprint and it has been proven that it sucks balls and is broken in the Halo sandbox. 343i is well aware that we hate it, they're just too damn stubborn and want to attract the CoD crowd. Doing so has proven to be absolutely catastrophic. I'm fine with thrusters and even fucking jetpack, but sprint should not be in the game.

... you'd rather have jetpacks than sprint? Come on let's be real. Sprint was hardly the reason why Halo 4 was a bad game. Shit like jetpacks and custom load outs were.

I'd like to see Halo 5 with no sprint as well, but the meltdowns and over reactions in this thread are already kind of hilarious. We've barely seen anything. We get to see gameplay tomorrow night and we get to actually play the beta in about a month and a half from now. I really think we should hold judgement until then, but I guess this is HaloGAF so...

 

[DopeyFish]

I hope 343 is well prepared for the legions shitting on halo 5

Because if it has sprint, i sure am ready to. I am prepared to taint the hype.

 

[Welfare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFNT6P7oJgA

There's the leak for those who haven't seen it yet.

Fuck Sprint. Like really. What is 343's reasoning for keeping it in?

I hope 343 is well prepared for the legions shitting on halo 5

Because if it has sprint, i sure am ready to. I am prepared to taint the hype.

It does.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Fuck Sprint. Like really. What is 343's reasoning for keeping it in?



It does.

Probably something along the lines of "the people who hate Sprint hate everything we do, so why should we listen to them?" If you keep pushing people onto the defensive, they're just gonna stop listening to you.

 

[Diablohead]

Sprint should make you really obvious to spot, have it so the backpack thrusters light up or something, and yeah not having your shields regen while sprinting would help a little.

I'll keep thoughts to myself until the beta is out.

 

[danwarb]

Halo movement speed needs to be increased, and a boost/dodge/thrust that keeps you in first person view and shooting would feel right. Controllers still aren't great for aiming, so maybe limit it to 3 quick thrusts and recharge, or pace yourself. Sprint wouldn't be necessary.

 

[MaGlock]

Quality of the video leaves much to be desired, still hyped with or without sprint.

 

[Welfare]

Probably something along the lines of "the people who hate Sprint hate everything we do, so why should we listen to them?" If you keep pushing people onto the defensive, they're just gonna stop listening to you.

Lol in that case flinch might still be in the game.

 

[RoKKeR]

How about this...

You only show up on Radar when you Sprint or shoot.

Spoiler

I have no idea how to alleviate the problems sprint presents.