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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.

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Mistel

Banned
It really looks good.
I wasn't sure about the shoulders at first but I think they look great. Everything is there that needs to be there and it all feels like it fits nicely. I think the art team for this game have really stepped up their game. Even the Helioskull armor which is brand new (albeit inspired by the Arbiter's armor) looks fantastic. I can't wait to see the rest of their armors.
I think the Helioskull is a bit too out there personally but its nice to see one aspect pick up after the bit of decline 4 was in that regard. Hopefully the rest of them is like this with regards to armor design it would be nice to see some more at the level of those previews.
 

Onikaan

Member
What are the requirements when forging a capture the flag map? I've almost completed the first version of my map, I want to test it but I can't select CTF from custom games.




I'd say wait until the MM patch next week. If it still doesn't work after that then get a refund. You'll regret it if you sell now and then it starts working perfectly on Monday or something.

I really would, Jem. I love what I've played but ugh, so frustrating to have the game available and unplayable :(

Lol refunding is such a babby move nowadays. Ofc it is broken as shit but it will probably get better.

Though if you have no money and a bad job that is probably an option.

Also OT but AC Unity is also that broken.. though who tested the game knew it would be that way lol.


If I kept Destiny I will also wait out for the MCC, there is nothing interesting coming out anyway this year anymore IMO.

Edit: also tested the game today if it works and got into a Halo 3 match in like 1.5 minutes.

EDIT: Oh maybe though I will sell my Ps4, absolute failure to buy one for me.. I keep playing multiplats on xbox One, and sofar nothing interesting is gonna release exclusively on PS4, I had hopes for big new IPs and not the continued Uncharted galore, so maybe in a few years.. LBP is also such a boring game. And with FF15 and Kingdom hearts not being exclusive anymore there go my most anticipated games to Xbox. Hopefully Sony has something big coming up

EDIT: Playing league lol, will respond properly in a moment.
 

jem0208

Member
I really would, Jem. I love what I've played but ugh, so frustrating to have the game available and unplayable :(

Would be more annoying to have the game playable but unavailable :p



I figured out how to set up a capture the flag map. Now to make the spawns work.
 

jem0208

Member
I dunno. I was less upset waiting for release.

That's because you were hyped for release and never expected to be playing the game before the 11th.


It would be much worse if a few days before release they suddenly decided to delay the game for a week IMO. At least I've got some fun out of the game.
 
Why sell it then if chances are it's going to be working in a week?
That's pretty much my thinking. 343 has straight up said they aren't going to have any major updates until next week. What has changed since that time? Either you were okay with that announcement or you should have made a decision to return the game. People who keep knowingly playing the game and then acting more upset that nothing has changed are only punishing themselves. It's really that simple.
 

Nowise10

Member
People like to make post, like Fracas, to vent their frustration. I'd say its pretty common sense on how to get a refund - you talk to Xbox Support.

I've seen hundreds of post like that with various game, where people claim they are taking it back, or getting a refund on it. If they ever pull through and actually do it? I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't, though.
 

Onikaan

Member
That's because you were hyped for release and never expected to be playing the game before the 11th.


It would be much worse if a few days before release they suddenly decided to delay the game for a week IMO. At least I've got some fun out of the game.

You ain't wrong, however in hindsight it's always easier to say "Yeah, I'd have waited another 2 weeks for this because it's borked."
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
Yeah, if you're getting a refund just do so and be done with it.

No need to make a big deal about it on here.

"But how will other people know I don't like thing!?"
 

Onikaan

Member
Yeah, if you're getting a refund just do so and be done with it.

No need to make a big deal about it on here.

"But how will other people know I don't like thing!?"

Come on man, no-one here is okay with what's going on. Regardless of how we feel about refunds.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
Yeah, if you're getting a refund just do so and be done with it.

No need to make a big deal about it on here.

"But how will other people know I don't like thing!?"

Because people want the devs to show they are angry, though in the way of an upset child.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
People like to make post, like Fracas, to vent their frustration. I'd say its pretty common sense on how to get a refund - you talk to Xbox Support.

I've seen hundreds of post like that with various game, where people claim they are taking it back, or getting a refund on it. If they ever pull through and actually do it? I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't, though.
Refund is processing now.
Because people want the devs to show they are angry, though in the way of an upset child.
Dat salt.

I'm not angry at all lol. It's just something I don't want to deal with right now and there are other games I want.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
Seriously guys.

Sigh.

You know what? It's OK for people to want refunds for a £60 product that doesn't work.

Yep of course, but I will foresee that a lot of people will still come in and driveby with posts like "Uh you guys still keeping that shit? Should have done a refund like me" etc.

If you wanna do it, do it. Who cares?
 
Fracas just wants attention and people are giving it to him. He doesn't believe Halo deserves the success it has received, yet continues to post in Halo threads and now posts about wanting a return less than a week from release. I mean, if people want to return it already that's their prerogative, but there is more in this collection than just MM lol.
 

Onikaan

Member
Yep of course, but I will foresee that a lot of people will still come in and driveby with posts like "Uh you guys still keeping that shit? Should have done a refund like me" etc.

If you wanna do it, do it. Who cares?

Ok, and I agree. Some folks hope to scare developers into some kind of a panicked frenzy (which is complete nonsense. I know the guys and girls at 343 are making an effort to fix this already), and don't follow through with the proposed refund. But there are genuine Halo fans here who are going to refund, and they have valid reasons to do so.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Where do you get those? My BDAY is around the corner and 20% is perfect, Is it preowned or also for new games?

It doesn't even need to be your bday lol, CAG posts them. It's just a multi-use code that works for one month.

Haha yea. I asked in the CAG thread for someone to post it, I'll link it here when I see it.

And it's only pre-owned but still, that's some pretty rad savings.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Why not instead of getting a refund, buy Sunset Overdrive or AC: Unity, spend a week beating it, then resell that. By then, MCC will work better and you won't be out much money and get to play a good game in the meantime. It's exactly what I'm doing with SO and I'm happy.
 

-Ryn

Banned
More like Chess, except that it also takes a ton of mechanical skill to move the Chess pieces, not just decide where they are going.

Good luck.
Thanks dude. I think I'm gonna need it.

I think the Helioskull is a bit too out there personally but its nice to see one aspect pick up after the bit of decline 4 was in that regard. Hopefully the rest of them is like this with regards to armor design it would be nice to see some more at the level of those previews.
I really look forward to seeing what else they come up with. I wonder what those renders are gonna look like with the "damaged" texture they need to add.

I can definitely understand the bit about the Helioskull. Though I also liked having a katana in Halo 3 lol
 

IHaveIce

Banned
Ok, and I agree. Some folks hope to scare developers into some kind of a panicked frenzy (which is complete nonsense. I know the guys and girls at 343 are making an effort to fix this already), and don't follow through with the proposed refund. But there are genuine Halo fans here who are going to refund, and they have valid reasons to do so.

Of course they are valid, I just would never do it myself for a game. Back then when patches weren't an option for games, and stores told me if I opened the game I won't be able to return it, I just made the best out of those games.
I still do that this way.
 

Booshka

Member
Fracas just wants attention and people are giving it to him. He doesn't believe Halo deserves the success it has received, yet continues to post in Halo threads and now posts about wanting a return less than a week from release. I mean, if people want to return it already that's their prerogative, but there is more in this collection than just MM lol.

I'm even worse, I bitch about the Halo games I don't even buy.
 
Why not instead of getting a refund, buy Sunset Overdrive or AC: Unity, spend a week beating it, then resell that. By then, MCC will work better and you won't be out much money and get to play a good game in the meantime. It's exactly what I'm doing with SO and I'm happy.

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343 is going to need a lot longer than a week to fix the numerous issues that plague this game. I'm assuming you mean the multiplayer searching, but that doesn't fix the random crashing that occurs when you finish a game.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
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343 is going to need a lot longer than a week to fix the numerous issues that plague this game. I'm assuming you mean the multiplayer searching, but that doesn't fix the random crashing that occurs when you finish a game.

Didn't they say a CU to help fix MM issues was due out next week? To be fair, we only know the severity of the symptoms of the problems, not the complexity of fixing them. The two aren't necessarily proportionate. I foresee that MM will be much smoother next weekend, especially since MS and 343 have their best people working quickly to mitigate this disaster. Worst case scenario, you trade in SO and buy AC or FC4 and spend another week with MCC on the shelf.
 

Mistel

Banned
I really look forward to seeing what else they come up with. I wonder what those renders are gonna look like with the "damaged" texture they need to add.

I can definitely understand the bit about the Helioskull. Though I also liked having a katana in Halo 3 lol
Hopefully it mesh nicely to give them the sort of used and worn feel that works well with that sort of thing. Personally I think the katana chest piece is a bit tacky.
 

belushy

Banned
Snipedown and Pistola left Optic Gaming :-O

Rumor has it the team might be Snipedown, Pistola, Roy, and Lunchbox. So pretty much the godsquad that owned Halo Reach, minus Ogre 2. It is just a rumor right now, though. Could also just be them joining Str8 in place of Ryanoob and Str8 Sick.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
I think Sunset's my GOTY so far. The writing was pretty rough but railgrinding was absolute perfection.

I really wasn't expecting it to be as good as it is. Having a lot of fun with it. The traversal is just so satisfying
once you get air dash
. I haven't found any weapons yet that feel really good though, but I've still got a ways to go in the game.
 

Caja 117

Member
Didn't they say a CU to help fix MM issues was due out next week? To be fair, we only know the severity of the symptoms of the problems, not the complexity of fixing them. The two aren't necessarily proportionate. I foresee that MM will be much smoother next weekend, especially since MS and 343 have their best people working quickly to mitigate this disaster. Worst case scenario, you trade in SO and buy AC or FC4 and spend another week with MCC on the shelf.

Its possible that most of the problem, including some that are happening in Single Player are network problems, so this MM issue could fix a lot of bugs going on, and not just quick MM search.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Worst case scenario: matchmaking is fixed next week and crashes fixed the week after. This is entirely dependent on how/why the crashes are occurring.

Though likely we get a majority of problems fixed in the next patch since it seems most things are revolving around networking (or at least is the cause)

Since they can be replicated, they are easy to isolate.

People saying 343 needs to rewrite the whole game back to front have no clue about software dev.

We should be having a fairly smooth experience in relatively short order
 

-Ryn

Banned
Hopefully it mesh nicely to give them the sort of used and worn feel that works well with that sort of thing. Personally I think the katana chest piece is a bit tacky.
Yeah. Weirdly I think the Halo 3 beta armor looked like a good take on that. Not sure how well it'd translate to the high res armor that we have now though.

I liked the katana more so because I really love swords as opposed to the look itself. It looked a bit tacky and meaningless yeah. However I've always hoped that if it ever returned that they would create special assassinations for it and the blade would look futuristic and badass. Maybe with some lasers. Make it difficult to get as well and I would be sooooo happy.

But you're a cool guy that doesn't afraid of anything.
Dun't wrry. It gun b k.
 

-Ryn

Banned
Finished the first version of my map. It's a 2-way symmetric CTF focused map. Got lots of trick jumps. I've called it Whiplash. What do you guys think?

Main overview:


Looking across from red base:


Side area with teleport, man cannons and sniper (also visible are the rockets in the centre of the map):
Looks really cool dude. I'm not exactly a map expert but I'd love to test it with you when I get a One.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Worst case scenario: matchmaking is fixed next week and crashes fixed the week after. This is entirely dependent on how/why the crashes are occurring.

Though likely we get a majority of problems fixed in the next patch since it seems most things are revolving around networking (or at least is the cause)

Since they can be replicated, they are easy to isolate.

People saying 343 needs to rewrite the whole game back to front have no clue about software dev.

We should be having a fairly smooth experience in relatively short order

Agreed. Like I said, just because the problems are very annoying doesn't mean that the underlying cause is extremely difficult to fix
 

Onikaan

Member
Finished the first version of my map. It's a 2-way symmetric CTF focused map. Got lots of trick jumps. I've called it Whiplash. What do you guys think?

Main overview:


Looking across from red base:


Side area with teleport, man cannons and sniper (also visible are the rockets in the centre of the map):

Looking good, Jem. Some of those man canons look dangerous.
 
Worst case scenario: matchmaking is fixed next week and crashes fixed the week after. This is entirely dependent on how/why the crashes are occurring.

Though likely we get a majority of problems fixed in the next patch since it seems most things are revolving around networking (or at least is the cause)

Since they can be replicated, they are easy to isolate.

People saying 343 needs to rewrite the whole game back to front have no clue about software dev.

We should be having a fairly smooth experience in relatively short order

I have no clue about software development.

Is this really worse case scenario? Would have figured it would take longer than 3 weeks to fix most of the issues.
 

jem0208

Member
Looks really cool dude. I'm not exactly a map expert but I'd love to test it with you when I get a One.

Looking good, Jem. Some of those man canons look dangerous.

Thanks guys, will have to do some testing some time and see if it's any fun to play :p


And yeah, I've triple tested those man cannons, they're very very close to being dangerous.

Cool beans, I was rank 5 in Halo 2A playlist.

Now I'm rank 1. Cooooooooooool

Still don't want a refund

I'm impressed that you've had enough games to become rank 5.


I have no clue about software development.

Is this really worse case scenario? Would have figured it would take longer than 3 weeks to fix most of the issues.

"Worst" worst case scenario: It's broken for ever.

Likely worst case scenario: MM gets much better next week and steadily improves after that, crashes and UI bugs etc. steadily get improved after that as well.

I meant REALISTICALLY the worst scenario lol

That's what I meant by the "likely worst case scenario" :p
 
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