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Who needs games: PlayStation 4's first year [EUROGAMER]

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Duxxy3

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Yeah i find it weird that the media basically ignores it. My favourite game in the series.

I'd put it around the same level as 1, above festival of blood, but still FAR below infamous 2.

That reminds me... I need to get first light when I get another PS4.
 

These advantages have been paying off for Sony from day one, and continue to do so: Some, but not all, multiplatform games render at a superior frame-rate and resolution on PS4 than on Xbox One. That's worth considering if you're eager to buy a new games console soon. The difference isn't night and day, but considering the endless similarities between the Xbox One and PS4, a small differentiator can seem like a big advantage.

However, the PS4's upper hand in this regard won't last forever, especially as coders begin to master the Xbox One's hardware.

You wish.
 
This is why the smart money went to PC + Nintendo. No point in getting a PS4 or Xbone if the library consists mainly of mediocre first-parties and inferior versions of multiplats that I can get on Steam.
 

Owzers

Member
Article is correct and i probably could have waited to buy a ps4...but oh well. Shadow of Mordor was the first ps4 game i really liked and it's disappointing that Eurogamer doesn't point how much better it is on ps4 and takes the " you could play it on ps3!" angle. Sure, I COULD, but i don't want to. If Sony didn't send me a broken ps4 as a replacement system i'd be playing Dragon Age 3 next week, and then Feb/March will be Witcher 3 and Bloodborne. The main disappointment has been what Sony exclusives have released, Sony just doesn't have many good franchises right now.
 

Genio88

Member
That's why i've chosen Xbox One, playing all the better multiplatform on my PC, i needed a console with the best exclusives, and Ryse, Dead Rysing 3, Forza 5 and Titanfall were great launch exclusives compared to killzone sf, knack and infamous, same this year with halo mcc, sunset overdrive and forza horizon, while just driveclub and lbp3 from sony, next year will be quantum break, halo 5, tomb raider and scalebound, but finally also sony shold launch something great with uncharted 4, forcing finally me to buy one
 
COD/FIFA/MINECRAFT
These games alone will please 90% of their audience.
Indeed. The reasons the PS4 sold better is because it was cheaper, available in more countries, and to a lesser extent, because MS's policies were all fucked up and not well explained. Outside of forums like this, people just don't care that much what company's name is written on the box. They care how much it costs and if it has the games they want to play.

Last gen, many of the Sony fans didn't care about better cross-platform games and indie games - 2 things the Xbox 360 was far better at - and they said they'd "never pay for P2P". The weekly threads about why paying for P2P is a joke are gone, cos they're doing exactly that now, and all of a sudden a higher resolution matters and so do indie games. It's just people defending the brand name. Tribalism bullshit. The same happens with all of the brands, obviously. NeoGAF is not the real world though.
 

Mooreberg

Member
You wish.
Secret Sauce 2.0

Microsoft will likely take November with MCC being a fan favorite (after some patching) and the good bundle deals. Maybe they can carry that momentum forward into 2015 if the holiday MSRP remains in place. I'm not sure why people need to pretend that they've been particularly competitive prior to November, or that the hardware is somehow magically going to get better.

I'm not even going to touch people touting Ryse as a great exclusive. O_O Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
 
You wish.

Nailed it.

PS4 would have had more exclusives if Sony didn't cancel them. Zipper Interactive and SCE Liverpool were shut down before they could finish them if reports are believed. The Order 1886 got moved to 2015.

The only thing I can say is Sony should have had a backup plan ready or that they should be throwing all their might into 2015 to compensate for it.

I'd say they are with how quick they are starting off their 2015 schedule. The one I'd guess they had in mind as the backup plan they eventually cancelled too, Stig's game was probably originally scheduled for about now given how long they were working on it.
 
uh yes you can. the author also talks about how increased frame rate and resolution of the ps4 versions aren't enough to keep his enthusiasm up about spending money on a new console
LOL how on earth did I miss that line?

But still, it is his opinion :D Buying PS4 to enjoy a brand new experience of the game is not a bad choice to many people. Just because the author isn't interest in upgrading to PS4 doesn't mean that everyone else isn't either.
 
Meh. I've enjoyed my PS4 this year and I'll probably enjoy it even more next year :) I feel like I've played plenty good PS4 games since launch.
 
I'm not even going to touch people touting Ryse as a great exclusive. O_O Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

This was put best earlier in the thread,

The mass market doesn't give a shit about exclusives (with some narrow exceptions).

It's this place that has such a hard time accepting that. We had huge arguments over who had the best LAUNCH EXCLUSIVES last year. No one gives a fuck. Goddamn

And it's not good launch exclusives either. Ryse is actually being discussed. How insular can some people be?
 

spwolf

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LOL how on earth did I miss that line?

But still, it is his opinion :D Buying PS4 to enjoy a brand new experience of the game is not a bad choice to many people. Just because the author isn't interest in upgrading to PS4 doesn't mean that everyone else isn't either.


I sure hope they will still make PS3 versions of games for a while but PS4 (and XB1 in most cases) is so much superior experience overall that I cant believe that someone who has the means, does not want to upgrade.

Why would anyone chose to play inferior versions of games? I think PS4 sales show that gamers do not.
 

FranXico

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They did go on to say that Sony's first party studios can make the difference in showing the power of the PS4. It's actually a good article with the pros and cons of the system so far. It's miles better than the garbage eurogamer wrote.

I agree with this. The gamespot counterpart goes into more detail, while being much fairer.

This conclusion
Make no mistake, you won't feel short-changed for buying a PS4 right now. It's one of the most impressively assembled games consoles in history, but if you hold off until the right game arrives, you shouldn't feel like you're missing out too much either. More time is needed to (hopefully) solve the controller battery problems, to fix PlayStation Now and the quality of live feeds, to take a second look at PlayStation Plus and EA Access, to revise the media capabilities, to fix the problems with PSN, and most importantly, to build a desirable library of games.

Sony has made incredible strides in the past several years, but it cannot stop now. The PS4 is an accomplished, superior games console, but not yet an essential purchase.

...is something most people can relate to, regardless of whether they agree or disagree with the claim that the PS4 is not an essential purchase.
 
They did go on to say that Sony's first party studios can make the difference in showing the power of the PS4.

Yup it was the very next sentence but of course that person had to omit it in their post. Seriously people should try actually reading the articles instead of just going by what people are posting here
 
Anyone without a gaming PC is choosing to do that.

Did everyone on here own a 360 last gen for the superior multi-plats? Erm....no.
Quite a few did. Amirox says it all the time.

Yup it was the very next sentence but of course that person had to omit it in their post. Seriously people should try actually reading the articles instead of just going by what people are posting here

When you see a line like that, I don't click simply because I don't want to add to their revenue stream.
Anyway saying PS4 exclusives will pull ahead technically(I think they already do anyway but that's another matter) doesn't excuse the utter stupidity of saying that devs getting used to the XBOne will erode the difference when it comes to multiplats. The only thing that will erode the difference is devs not optimising the PS4 version.
 
You wish.
Not sure why GameSpot wants to try perpetuating the idea that the xbone was close in power but more difficult to program for hence more potential to catch up when in reality the PS4 is both significantly more powerful, easier to program for AND has more room to grow in terms of gpgpu. It's not like parity affects the likes of Naughty Dogs or Santa Monica.
 

AlphaDump

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anything multiplatform is inherently better on ps4, so you are getting an enhanced version regardless if it is on ps3, and even on xbone for the most part. I cant imagine a price cut anytime soon, either.

if you are a fan of ps3, an upgraded version of is even better, especially after 7 or so years. The games are going to inevitably come out, so why not just enjoy whatever comes its way in the meantime. It's how i discovered games like Warframe and Diablo 3, which I have put a ton of time into.
 
Quite a few did. Amirox says it all the time.
Quite a few isn't everyone. There was always some excuse why people wouldn't buy a 360. Often it was "I'll never pay for P2P" (oh, you will - you just didn't know it yet) or "the 360 has no exclusives I like", which, let's face it, was just more bullshit. Don't underestimate the fanboyism aspect on a site like this.

As for Amir0x, who takes that guy seriously? His opinion should mean nothing to anyone.
 
The level of dishonesty and ignorance in the games media is staggering.

Not sure why GameSpot wants to try perpetuating the idea that the xbone was close in power but more difficult to program for hence more potential to catch up when in reality the PS4 is both significantly more powerful, easier to program for AND has more room to grow in terms of gpgpu. It's not like parity affects the likes of Naughty Dogs or Santa Monica.

Please read the article. That post is selective and it does go on to mention first parties taking advantage of the power.
 

Curufinwe

Member
Anyone without a gaming PC is choosing to do that.

Did everyone on here own a 360 last gen for the superior multi-plats? Erm....no.

I bought a 360 to play Bayonetta. Every multi platform title after that I got on the 360 if it performed better. AC2, B and R, Deus Ex HR, Arkham City, MGRR, Diablo 3, etc.
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
Please read the article. That post is selective and it does go on to mention first parties taking advantage of the power.
This sentence stands on its own and is incorrect.

However, the PS4's upper hand in this regard won't last forever, especially as coders begin to master the Xbox One's hardware.
 

wiggleb0t

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Eurogsmer said:
The PS4 must be the most successful console without a killer app there's ever been, but its momentum can't last forever, its feelgood factor has worn off, and its opponent has got its act together.
Xbox 1 got its act together? Ditching Kinect, Indie game restrictions, paying for parity & Gold that is shite compared with PS+.
 

spwolf

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They did go on to say that Sony's first party studios can make the difference in showing the power of the PS4. It's actually a good article with the pros and cons of the system so far. It's miles better than the garbage eurogamer wrote.

sure, except for forgetting Infamous and even LBP that is coming in 2 days. When you can count exclusives on your hand, then emitting 2 of them is pretty telling.

But it makes for more interesting article, right?

In any case, most people do get heavy hitters from 3rd parties and there is no doubt that PS4 version is superior to PS3 versions. Exclusives are just gravy... I expect to buy PS4 this month, and I already know my most played game will be PES (available on many platforms), with DC and LBP3 in tow for something for the kids, and GTA for myself... plus bunch of PS+ games I already have accumulated.

It just feels that games part feels like something they all try make so interesting, that you will click and read the article.
 
I think people are forgetting just how important third party sales really are. The maddens, cods, bf's, Nba 2k's, etc. are where the majority of console owners are going to be playing. In fact outside of infamus I haven't played a sony exclusive on my PS4 as of yet; and I'm perfectly fine with that fact..
 
I bought a 360 to play Bayonetta. Every multi platform title after that I got on the 360 if it performed better. AC2, B and R, Deus Ex HR, Arkham City, MGRR, Diablo 3, etc.

I always preferred using the 360 for multiplats and PS3 for exclusives/the odd multiplat when I felt like it.

Xbox 360 was better imo
 

onanie

Member
Not sure why GameSpot wants to try perpetuating the idea that the xbone was close in power but more difficult to program for hence more potential to catch up when in reality the PS4 is both significantly more powerful, easier to program for AND has more room to grow in terms of gpgpu. It's not like parity affects the likes of Naughty Dogs or Santa Monica.

You forget that Microsoft invented DirectX.
 

spwolf

Member
Quite a few isn't everyone. There was always some excuse why people wouldn't buy a 360. Often it was "I'll never pay for P2P" (oh, you will - you just didn't know it yet) or "the 360 has no exclusives I like", which, let's face it, was just more bullshit. Don't underestimate the fanboyism aspect on a site like this.

As for Amir0x, who takes that guy seriously? His opinion should mean nothing to anyone.

eh, gaf is not singularity... people have different opinions and always had. PS+ is a lot more than paying for p2p, I already have it for my PS3 and PS4 games rolling to my account is just gravy and making sure I will get PS4 as well.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
So can third party games. The constant attempts to minimize the tech gap are embarrassing.

It's not that bad....in other sites it comes down to what size your TV is.

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Endo Punk

Member
Certainly a lot better than PS3's first year. At the end people want to see what they want to see. When you continue pushing goal posts forward eliminating exclusives, downloads, indies, better 3rd party then you will reach a point where it definitely looks like PS4 has no games.
 
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