bananafactory
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Sony is likely going to be well over 15 million after the holidays. 10 mil for xbox one sounds about right though.
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EA CFO: XBO Pricing Strategy Catching up to PS4, expects 25M PS4+XB1 after holidays
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Sony is likely going to be well over 15 million after the holidays. 10 mil for xbox one sounds about right though.
Mikey Jr.
Member
That makes no sense though.
"Microsoft IS catching up"
They are getting there, but not yet. Thats how I take that quote. Now, lets apply that to pricing strategy.
MS has a $349 bundle going on right now that includes the holidays biggest games for essentially free. Apparently MS pricing strategy has still not caught up to Sony's pricing strategy?
To be honest, I think the X1 will sell 9 million at best by the end of the calendar year, 10 million sounds high imo.
You're expecting the XB1 to sell 3+ million over the next two months?
For reference, those are historic Wii levels.
Not happening, whatsoever.
So the X1 had a disappointing launch compared to the 360?
That sort of implies we know where the Xbox One stands in number of units sold-through. Last I checked, no one knew, and implying that speculation == fact is disingenuous.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Ehh, I never really look at hourlies.
Show me the November sales. That usually shows the bigger picture IMO.
Following NPD threads and Quarterly shipment reports, XB1 units sold between 6-7 million sales is a rather good estimate.
XB1 will not be hitting 10 million sold through in 2014.
But, it will outsell PS4 in November.
GarciaHotspur
Member
The is not even 10 millions Xbox One shipped....
AstuteClass
Banned
I think the year end sales will end up:
PS4 - 17m
X1 - 9.5m
PS4 - 17m
X1 - 9.5m
bananafactory
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I was talking shipped numbers, not sold through. Sorry.
Nope, the and only, the ORIGINAL!
(I don't even know who you mean,sorry)
edit, dude stole my avatar, he's still here :/ it'll be him.
double edit, he's banned at the moment
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=71999
1.21Gigawatts
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I would be surprised if thats true.
I really don't see the XB1 outselling the Ps4 in worldwide numbers, so in fact the gap is not closing but getting wider.
I really don't see the XB1 outselling the Ps4 in worldwide numbers, so in fact the gap is not closing but getting wider.
Welfare
Member
3+ million in 2 months? Maybe in just the US, but worldwide Wii did better.
Xbox One can hit near 2 million alone in the US this holiday.
Fair enough, but we still have a month and a half to go before we can start to say "will" and "will not".
Well, at that point, it'll be "had" and "had not". BUT THE POINT STANDS.
Chobel
Member
Thanks for clearing the confusion, but why the hell is he using the same avatar as you? Your avatar is so unique, I was convinced you changed your username somehow, lol.
The more telling number will definitely be Microsoft's shipment numbers in Q1 2015 compared to Sony's.
bananafactory
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I'm fairly skeptical of XB1 prospects outside the US, especially in light of the sales ratios in EU and extremely competitive PS4 bundles/pricing in the UK.
I have XB1 pegged at 1.1 - 1.2 million tops in the US for Nov./Dec.
Lol, that's fair.
Black Friday weekend should be a great indicator of how their holiday trajectory plays out.
I'm thinking XB1 at 450k-550k for November.
Poimandres
Member
It had a bleeding edge CPU and blu-ray playback... and that's about it. Design wise the PS3 was a mess, hence the poor multiplatform versions for pretty much the life of the system. "Bleeding edge" indeed!
JeRzYzFyNeSt
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the funny thing is they are Catching up but only in the USA lol.. wow what a recovery.. forget everyone else. USA got this
CosmicQueso
Member
Which the guy knows, which is why that's not what he'd be saying.
Thread on OT had that naked wombat(and other weird/cute animals)
I downloaded it, uploaded it to a cropping website, cropped it and used it as my avvy.
Next day he had it too.Looks identically cropped just like mine!
Then I see him all the time posting.
I don't know what to do so I just leave it...
I'm just hoping the 'bone pulls through at least another million/million-and-a-half by Christmas. It's my platform of choice, you see.
Um, it's not like the PS4 is selling 0 consoles throughout the holidays.
spatenfloot
Member
My guess is the recent stability update. I've heard OS updates sell consoles.
It will, especially since the PS4 isn't remotely competitive in pricing here in NA.
Lol
HocusPocus
Member
The reaction on this forum to anything remotely positive for the xbox one is amazing lol. It's like the console ran over your dog or something.
travisbickle
Member
The reaction to any news is the same.
What do you want? Everyone to believe wholeheartedly what they read and not question it?
Yes, is ridiculous, neogaf has become just a Sony fan boy forum, Xbox gets only hate here...Anyway I'm happy both console are doing great, I hope they'll sell a lot and almost the same number, that will help competition and will bring good stuff to us consumers
jhmtehgamr20xx
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You honestly expect them to do 3 million WW btwn November and December (that's about what they'd have to pull to reach that figure, sold-through)? And somehow for Sony to only do 2 million WW in the same time frame?
In other words, you're expecting America to be such a big factor that it blows away the combined presence of the rest of the markets in the world? Is America truly bigger than the world?
And, yes, I know XBO had a decent launch in China, but the point still stands.
It will, especially since the PS4 isn't remotely competitive in pricing here in NA.
Lol
A $50 price deferential in favor of the weaker product is not unexpected. It also mean the competitor is well in range of being price-competitive. You're acting like $50 is suddenly $200 or something.
I also doubt this. Sales for the last week of October, which MS used as reference for the "triple" figure, were suppressed b/c the price count was announced then and I'm certain many buyers held off until the price drop. If October kept up w/ September (it didn't) and they did 280k in September, that'd translate to a weekly average of 70k, for the "triple" figure to be 210k over two weeks. Saying it keeps that pace to BF and that's now 280k, and 90% of Nov. sales happen on BF weekend, and that's about 252k on BF, or 532k for the month.
In November.
That's Saturn-tier. Which isn't too bad, but PS1 was doubling/tripling that as market leader. Even N64 was doubling that at least. PS4 probably sits btwn those two in relative strength in the market right now, closer to PS1. XBO sits btwn Saturn and N64, just slightly more towards Saturn. If it does well these holidays (it'll need to do a good bit more than 532k in November) and can carry that into next year, it'll probably swing closer to the N64. That's the best MS can wish for at this point, then maybe if things keep going well, they can truly aim for the top spot. Right now they're just trying to secure 2nd at a comfortable lead away from the Wii U.
BlackBuzzard
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That persecution complex.
Apologies if me replying to you is out of place, but regardless the difference between $50 and $200, there's still a difference. And that's what I believe matters to consumers more: less money being drained out of their wallets.
Cornbread78
Member
Dude, obviously your new 'round here, you missed all the love Sony got here from about 2006 through the reveal in 2013...
Was tough times to appreciate Sony..
Sony arrogance, look it up, lol.
Wickerbasket
Member
I would say that Microsoft was disappointed by the launch compared with the 360.
The drop off in sales from January onward was really disappointing.
travisbickle
Member
The price doesn't have to be the same for it to be competitive. I think nov/dec NPDs are going to surprise some people.
I dunno, PS4 sells worldwide while XB1 doesn't so it will still be heavily in Sony's favor.
AstuteClass
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I think it has a lot more to do with MS crappy practices, like BS/deceiving/vague PR statements. personally, the more I learn, the more turned-off I am. If I was a share/stock holder and/or employee of MS, I'd probably look the other way (as some may already do), but I'm not.
I don't see the same dislike towards the Wii U, do you?
Exploratory
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This argument sucks. Look at how Sony dragged its feet on online play. Look at PSN even now. You need competition or people get lazy. Look at the release of the PS3!
CosmicQueso
Member
The best part of the whole thing is that the quote isn't actually positive for the Xbox One.
Isn't that after the launch?
Welfare
Member
What the hell? That would be catastrophic for the One. You do realize the PS3 did over 1.2 million in its first holiday, with over 460k in just November?
I don't know why you think the number would be that low, but it's not going to do that poorly.