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Which explains WiiU's stranglehold on the market^^ /s
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Xbox One beats PS4 on Black Friday, according to market-research firm
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Which explains WiiU's stranglehold on the market^^ /s
Pound_lb003
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Because it launched a week earlier.
Mushroomer25
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That records purchase receipts . There's a reason the firm is in business. They're not pulling these numbers from thin air.
bananafactory
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Yup they pretty much sold out every shipment in Nov, Dec, and even January. They were out of stock most places until March/April
fluffydelusions
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ViewtifulJC
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The age of Sony is done
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
Major Nelson is pleased.
The GTA/TLOU bundle is probably a better comparison to make. Also, the Lego/LBP bundle.
It seems this survey is pretty limited as well based on the results from last year compared to their findings.
Banderdash
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At some point we're going to see a bounce in xbox numbers because PS4 owners may be buying them as a second console...
Unknown Soldier
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Wii U had awful pricing and bundles on Black Friday doe
fluffydelusions
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Duxxy3
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Infoscout last Black Friday:
http://blog.infoscout.co/black-friday-console-war/
Methodology last Black Friday:
"Of over 102k shopping receipts tracked by InfoScout on Black Friday, slightly over 1,500 included purchases of a gaming console or console game. The data includes purchases at all major retailers carrying electronics including Walmart, Target, Best Buy, GameStop, RadioShack, and others. For more information related to our data and panel representation, visit our data page."
Even I am very skeptical of infoscout, but do we have another source for black friday 2013 sales? We know that November went to Sony, but how available was the system for black friday?
GutsOfThor
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Wasn't it already accepted that the Bone was going to crush the PS4 this holiday?
If that phone app survey is to be believed, it would mean both the Xbox One and Xbox 360 doubled PS4 sales on Black Friday, the largest console moving day of the year. PS4 supply didn't get really bad until December.
Don't kill me, I'm just the messenger
http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/29/x...ack-friday-according-to-market-research-firm/
Message is shit and worthless, so you only have yourself to blame.
fluffydelusions
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I'd be interested in this also but Black Friday deals are still going on over the weekend at most places.
spookyfish
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I'm console agnostic, but what gen, exactly, was MicroSoft "king" of?
El-Pistolero
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Of course they haven't. But getting stomped in the only viable market (The UK is another one; albeit a much less important one) will jeopardize the whole brand...
WhiskerFrisker
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Last gen since you know, U.S= the world.
fluffydelusions
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I think it mostly depended on where you lived? Couldn't find any PS4's in NYC for quite a while
"Console agnostic"... I've seen it all.
This looks pretty meaningless. Both probably move a ton, very interested to see NPDs.
PeregrinSe7en
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wth. even with their best effort last gen they still didnt come out on top.
they aint no kings
i'm quoting this so mods don't miss this flamebait material
You knew what this post would do. You knew.
Infoscout last Black Friday:
http://blog.infoscout.co/black-friday-console-war/
Methodology last Black Friday:
"Of over 102k shopping receipts tracked by InfoScout on Black Friday, slightly over 1,500 included purchases of a gaming console or console game. The data includes purchases at all major retailers carrying electronics including Walmart, Target, Best Buy, GameStop, RadioShack, and others. For more information related to our data and panel representation, visit our data page."
Seems reliable.
The thing in question is not the sample size, people. The rough confidence interval implied by this sample size, assuming a US population of around 300 million, is not too big.
If this sample is representative, the sample size used still predicts a commanding dominance during Black Friday. There's no point in hammering on that part.
Better questions are:
- Is it true that out of 102k shoppers, we should only expect 1500, or somewhere around 1.5% to buy a gaming console or console game?
- How are the incentives for scanning the receipts structured?
- How were the people that use the app selected to do so?
These are not necessarily questions we can answer, but they are infinitely more valid than wondering about the sample size.
Aquamarine
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The thing in question is not the sample size, people.
If this sample is representative, the sample size used still predicts a commanding dominance during Black Friday. There's no point in hammering on that part.
But is the sample representative? After all, it's comprised of whatever people who download the app for rewards want to show them.
fluffydelusions
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To be fair, PS4 was pretty hard to find on Black Friday last year. I got one day 1 (preordered) but I remember a bunch of other people that didn't preorder thinking they were going to get one on release but nope. And most places (at least here NYC) had a waiting list to get a hold of one post release. I remember my local gamestop told me they had like a 4000 people in a waiting list.
Was it that Sneak King game that helped the Xbox One?
within the context of this thread, maybe, but in general? No. Most messengers have no say in whether or not a message should be delivered. My mail lady does not screen my mail, as an example (even though I wish she would some times considering the amount of junk mail I get.)
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Exactly. It's not about the size of the sample, it's about the makeup of said sample.
SmokedMeat
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$329 with free bundled games and a gift card?
If Microsoft can't win a month with the month long price drop, and huge BF offerings, then they're in huge trouble.
If Microsoft can't win a month with the month long price drop, and huge BF offerings, then they're in huge trouble.
dreamer3kx
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fluffydelusions
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Are there other Black Friday numbers for last year? Not NPD. Too drunk to search
Do we know how many consoles were sold on Black Friday? November NPDs don't really mean anything because they are tracking the entire month.
That said, the sampling method is obviously less than ideal. It's interesting data, but shouldn't be used to draw any conclusions.
Cornbread78
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Needs more SHOCKING NEWS in the title..
Duxxy3
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Do we have any other information for black friday 2013? We have the monthly results and Sony won that, but do we any sources for black friday?
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