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Do we expect Splatoon to be the next major Nintendo I.P.?

I don't see where the W101 comparisons are coming from. Splatoon has had bigger press than W101 had since it was revealed. I'm not expecting it to sell gangbusters but it's gonna do much better than W101.
 

Kater

Banned
It probably won't sell as much as the Mario or Zelda games which is a real shame.

I want to have a new, big and interesting IP from Ninty but it's not very likely that they can grow a big fanbase for a new IP on a console that mostly Nintendo diehards buy who only play the proven concepts and don't want to try out new things.
 
It already is the next major Nintendo IP, because Nintendo are positioning it as such. It'll be there on the coming generations of Nintendo hardware, I'm sure. It's surely cheaper than Metroid to make, and the TPS genre is more mainstream than those of F-Zero, Star Fox, Bayonetta or TW101 - giving it better odds of success and/or commercial viability than any of those franchises.

Splatoon is to shooters what Mario Kart is to racing games. Neither of the two appeal to the typical teenage/young male audience that craves mature content, but have the potential of appealing to anything BUT that audience.
 

AdanVC

Member
I just hope it does well because since this is mostly a multiplayer online based game, we need lot's of people to play. If it bombs, everyone will be affected because nobody would be online to play! :( Ugh. I want to be optimistic, I mean, Mario Party 10 charted pretty high on last month's NPD even if the game didn't do well on reviews. But of course we're talking about a pretty stablished and recognized franchise like Mario Party vs a brand new IP wich is Splatoon. Let's support the heck out of that Splatoon god damn it.

I'm optimistic for a couple of reasons:

-amiibo (and the way it helped Mario Party 10 chart on NPD)

-strong previews/reviews/word-of-mouth, unlike W101

-marketing effort. I saw a big poster for this in the storefront window of an EB yesterday

-lack of anything else on WiiU. Starved userbase who bought WiiU for Kart/Smash

-looks absolutely fun, engaging, and easy to pick-up-and-play

-my baseless speculation that an inkling will be a DLC character in Smash Bros.



Launching at the tail end of May will make it hard to know how it does in the NPD tracking. I suspect it'll sell close to 250k in it's opening month in NA, and I think it'll come-close and might even crack 100k in Japan. It'll probably end up with 750k sales worldwide, which I think will be considered fairly successful for WiiU. Anything north of 750k is a major success, anything south of 500k would be a disappointment.

I'm kinda optimistic about Splatoon so I agree with all the points stated here. It has pretty much everything on it's side to be a moderate success. It all depends on how strong the marketing goes. That's the freaking key.

Just like Xenoblade Chronicles, it will probably do well enough to get a sequel. I think Nintendo knows what to expect from the Wii U at this point.

Yeah I think even Nintendo just accepted the fact that every game they launch on Wii U it will sell bad/moderate and on the most special case, good, like Mario Kart 8 or Smash.
 

hatchx

Banned
Isn't the single-player campaign just offline bot matches but with objectives?

No it's pretty full-fledged with platforms, bosses, and a hub world. It looks a lot like Mario Galaxy with floating platforms.

No, it's 1 v 1. One on the gamepad and the other on the TV. The mode they showed off has you trying to pop balloons while fending off your opponent

That's the local-multiplayer mode.


You guys should watch the Direct on Friday. I bet we'll see some new stuff on the single-player, maybe some new modes. I doubt they'll just regurgitate info if they have a dedicated direct.
 
please explain what a bomb is to you, saying that this will outright bomb is such a pessimistic thing, I mean, they're marketing it a hell of alot more than W101 and codename STEAM. Do you guys only think in terms of games either bombing or being the biggest thing since bread?
Bomb as in it's destined for cult classic status. I want it to do well, but a new IP on such a small install base doesn't sound promising.
 

impact

Banned
Nah I expect it to be the next Wonderful 101

Majority of Nintendo fans will ignore it because Mario and co. ain't there
 

True Fire

Member
Its totally going to flop. It doesnt have anything the mainstream audience want.

Seriously? It's new, colorful, fast-paced, and fun. The Skylanders generation will eat Splatoon up.

The problem with W101 was that the only demographic that seemed interested in it were adult Nintendo fans. It also had atrocious marketing and an awkward title.
 
I don't think it will be a system seller.
Seriously? It's new, colorful, fast-paced, and fun. The Skylanders generation will eat Splatoon up.

The problem with W101 was that the only demographic that seemed interested in it were adult Nintendo fans. It also had atrocious marketing and an awkward title.

Sunset Overdrive was new, colorful, fast-paced, and fun and I think that game only ended up doing alright.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
I think it will do decent in sales but in terms of becoming a big new Nintendo franchise? No. The Wii U is doing too bad for it to ever have a new IP become a big hit in my opinion.
 
Personally I don't think so. I feel like they are coming a few years too late to the shooter game. I know that the game is somewhat unique from other shooters, but will it be a powerhouse to move consoles? I doubt it.
 

2thepoint

Junior Member
It will probably do average-ok first week sales, then disappear into the vortex of forgotten games hovering somewhere above its epicenter at Konami.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
You can advertise something no one is really interested in as much as you want, people still won't buy it.
Fortunately for Splatoon, it's getting tons of positive buzz from those who've played it.

I think it will do decent in sales but in terms of becoming a big new Nintendo franchise? No. The Wii U is doing too bad for it to ever have a new IP become a big hit in my opinion.
That's why I think it'll do well enough to warrant a sequel on the next system. Nintendo probably has their expectations in check as far as Wii U software sales go.
 

Sterok

Member
Keep in mind Nintendo already said they wanted this to be their next Mario Kart/Smash. Unless it bombs W101 level (practically impossible) and gets slaughtered critically (unlikely, but possible), they will continue it for the next console. They're putting a lot of faith and marketing into this. They won't throw it out unless they have no choice.
 

-MB-

Member
Fair enough.

To clarify myself: It will bomb even considering the low install base of the U. More than the W101 (less is almost impossible; so that's not saying much) but nowhere near as close as to warrant calling it a major IP.

I'd say about 150k lifetime, if even that.
Yea and Xbox One is gonna end the generation losing to the ps4 by a nose.
 

sfried

Member
It will probably do average-ok first week sales, then disappear into the vortex of forgotten games hovering somewhere above its epicenter at Konami.

I doubt it. Splatoon has already gotten much attention/coverage/love by the press, and I fill it will fair in the same way Pikmin 1 did on its debut on the GameCube, and it didn't sell gangbusters either (in fact you can outright say it "bombed"). If by "forgotten" you mean the same way Luigi's Masion was "forgotten", then I can see how that allusion works.

Pikmin was similarly "forgotten" but also got a sequel that was highly praised too. At that point it was clearly a franchise.
I have a feeling even with a marketing push W101 would have still sold below expectations.
The majority of people back then and now just aren't interested in the Wii U.
Not quite true. It's awareness that was W101's problem: People barely knew such a game existed, and even then they kind of...didn't get it until they played it. It doesn't help the similarities to Pikmin were kind of close.
 
Already done


Like I said before, it'd be a miracle if the n3DS ran Splatoon at 30fps with reduced graphics. If anything, Splatoon would get a sequel on the next console.


Seeing as how the next console and handheld will be getting the same games it'll be on both. 😃
 
No, I am expecting it to be moderately successful, relative to other first party stuff.

Given the state of the install base, the nature of community building for multiplayer games and Nintendo's limited infrastructure for online stuff, I find unbridled enthusiasm for this title to be confusing.
 
That's the local-multiplayer mode.


You guys should watch the Direct on Friday. I bet we'll see some new stuff on the single-player, maybe some new modes. I doubt they'll just regurgitate info if they have a dedicated direct.
He'a asking about the story mode, not Battle Dojo.

The single-player mode is very much its own thing. Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEpl1LQ3k0M
My mistake, I thought he was asking about local multi. Yeah, the single player mode is a Mario Galaxy-esque platformer type game. It's likely not going to be anywhere near as fleshed out or long as that, but yeah.
The "multiplayer but with bots" might be referring to some of the stages against the Octolings which is basically that, but that's not what makes up the entirety of the campaign.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Seeing as how the next console and handheld will be getting the same games it'll be on both. 😃
If Iwata goes through with his "two consoles, one OS" idea with most of the games being shared across both systems, this is possible (given that the next portable is up to the task from a technical standpoint).
 
There hasn't been a fully fledge Wii U "gamer" game since Smash. So the Wii U audience has been hungry for 6 months. And Nintendo is marketing it and pushing it frontwards. Therefore all that combined makes me think that it will do well for a Wii U title. I can see it selling a million worldwide easily and probably much more. That's of course if it gets good reviews with no major flaw.
 
If Iwata goes through with his "two consoles, one OS" idea with most of the games being shared across both systems, this is possible (given that the next portable is up to the task from a technical standpoint).

I don't think it's a question of if, this is what they've said they are doing and have reorganized their company around.
 

JoeM86

Member
If Iwata goes through with his "two consoles, one OS" idea with most of the games being shared across both systems, this is possible (given that the next portable is up to the task from a technical standpoint).

The idea isn't for most games to be shared across both systems. The idea is for easier development and asset sharing. While some games will, it's not the intent for it.
 

Halabane

Member
Its not going to sell hardware. So its only whomever is playing wii-u now. There really is nothing else like it on the system so that will help. Pikman, Bayo and 101 is probably where is sits in sales. This month they really need to push the campaign part of this game or sales will be worse. Wii-u base is not multiplayer type in general. This really has the a good chance to tank. At best its a moderate success. The bar is pretty low.
 

openrob

Member
Just to chip in, this game has had a very strong marketing push, it is their big game of this season.
It has been available to play at most gaming events. Secondly it is the type of game that does well for nintendo - colourful fast paced, multiplayer. Just like Mario Kart, Smash, etc.

Being a new IP is all that hinders it, apart from that it has the potential to do pretty well.

Regardless of SALES, Nintendo considers it a major IP. It might not translate into money, but that isn't the only way to measure if something is big or not.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
On the wii it could have been. But right now it has one hell of a uphill battle to climb due to total console sales. Fan output at its current state is a good thing, but that doesn't necessarily mean sales or at least whatever sales Nintendo might be aiming at. They are actually marketing though so that's a good thing.

Despite being negative I would love to see it become one from what we have seen so far.
 

CryptiK

Member
Seriously? It's new, colorful, fast-paced, and fun. The Skylanders generation will eat Splatoon up.

The problem with W101 was that the only demographic that seemed interested in it were adult Nintendo fans. It also had atrocious marketing and an awkward title.
Its on the Wii U for starters(Im not hating on the console calm down) And it is going after shooter crowd and the normal nintendo crowd. It really is going to be put out to die. It will have a small cult following but nothing more.
 

Linkhero1

Member
It's going to bomb.

They're doing a Splatoon tour I think but I doubt it's going to do much for them. I'm going to wait for a price drop before picking it up.
 
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