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NVIDIA Pascal GPU to feature 17B transistors and 32GB HBM2, coming Q2 2016 (earliest)

Hmm I was planning to get a new desktop at the end of the year. I've been mostly on laptops the last couple of years, or should I better say decade since my last 'desktop' is a Pentium 4 running a ATI 9800XT from 2003, which is today outclassed by my phone.

But reading this stuff, I guess it's worth to wait a couple of month longer..
 
This is beautiful. Next gen consoles shouldn't be gimped or half stepped like the current ones are. At the very least they should be able to do 4k @ 60fps by 2019.

I can get 4K @ 60 fps on my GTX 970 on many games. If the next consoles get something close to its power, it should be no problem getting those kind of stats once developers start optimizing for the systems.
 

Grief.exe

Member
I can get 4K @ 60 fps on my GTX 970 on many games. If the next consoles get something close to its power, it should be no problem getting those kind of stats once developers start optimizing for the systems.

Whoa.

970 struggles at 1440p to get 60 FPS in recent games, let alone 4K.

What games are you referring to?
 

Fredrik

Member
I'm quite new the PC gaming, when does nvidia usually showcase new graphics cards? Was 980ti showcased in Q2 2015?
 

jonnyp

Member
This is beautiful. Next gen consoles shouldn't be gimped or half stepped like the current ones are. At the very least they should be able to do 4k @ 60fps by 2019.

The current consoles are not gimped. They are what they are due to price point. They can run games at 1080p@60fps, just a matter of what the developer sacrifices in order to make it so. I think Uncharted 4 looks mindblowingly good, certainly not gimped by any stretch of the imagination.

When will people learn that unless the console maker makes it mandatory for games to run at a specific resolution and fps there will be developers who'd opt for more effects, better textures, AA etc at 30 fps with possibly lower resolution as well...
 
Whoa.

970 struggles at 1440p to get 60 FPS in recent games, let alone 4K.

What games are you referring to?

I should have mentioned that I wasn't running them at ultra. Thats the big thing. I distinctly remember getting rather great FPS levels in GTA V in particular. Or maybe I'm just remembering things incorrectly.

DSR does work ludicrously well with this card on older games too, as mentioned above.
 

Fredrik

Member
I think Uncharted 4 looks mindblowingly good, certainly not gimped by any stretch of the imagination.
Naughty Dog made fun of 30fps and hoped to make 60fps a standard for games this generation at the time of the release of The Last of Us Remastered. Then they aimed for 60fps for Uncharted 4 but eventually had to downgrade it to 30fps. Of course it's gimped. And it's not Naughty Dog's fault, they're wizards. The hardware just isn't good enough to realize their visions without sacrificing something, this time it was the smoothness that had to go.
 

MaDKaT

Member
It is news like this that keeps delaying me building a gaming rig. Currently it was just waiting for consumer VR and the card I would need to run them. Now it seems I should wait for these new cards.
 
It is news like this that keeps delaying me building a gaming rig. Currently it was just waiting for consumer VR and the card I would need to run them. Now it seems I should wait for these new cards.

I would normally say just go for it, but yeah if your primary interest is VR, you'll probably want to wait for some HBM2 cards.

Will it run Crysis on 60 fps?

Doom 3 is going to get me to upgrade to one of these bad boys.
 
Will hold onto my GTX 970 until 2017 when I hit my next build. But the GTX 1070/1170 with this tech is going to be a good addition to said build!
 

daninthemix

Member
MaxPayne 3, Hitman Absolution, Remember Me, Sleeping Dogs, all work at buttery smooth 4k 60fps.

I couldn't sustain DSR 4K on Mass Effect 2 at 60fps. Almost the entire game it did run at 60, but at certain points during one of the DLCs, it started dropping frames. And that's a 5 year old game.

If you want to push 4K on a 970 be my guest, but the card is not suited to that IMO. Even 1440 is a stretch, unless you're really willing to lower settings.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I can get 4K @ 60 fps on my GTX 970 on many games. If the next consoles get something close to its power, it should be no problem getting those kind of stats once developers start optimizing for the systems.

I don't think so, your talking about current games, not games 5 years from now tailor made for those hypothetical consoles. I expect devs to target 30fps even then, because they are going to want to push the boundary of a closed platform by default.

Even though we should not be taking Crytek's advice, they said that even if they had put Ryse on PS4, they still would have made it 900p and used the GPU cycles elsewhere, to push their graphics instead of making it 1080p with the extra GPU grunt.
 

Volotaire

Member
I've been aiming for a new build for the end of 2016 with Pascal and Skylake (this year) arriving. This line of new cards will definitely help me jump straight into 1440p.
 

Grief.exe

Member
MaxPayne 3, Hitman Absolution, Remember Me, Sleeping Dogs, all work at buttery smooth 4k 60fps.

Those are old or cross-gen games. The poster was implying that the 970 would be able to run theoretical games in the future at 4K. I very much doubt that particular capability of the card.
 

Mifec

Member
Those are old or cross-gen games. The poster was implying that the 970 would be able to run theoretical games in the future at 4K. I very much doubt that particular capability of the card.

Not to mention he probably has MSAA off in Max Payne.
 
I reall hope this time they will close the gap:

nvidia-maxwell-980m-relative-performance-desktop-class-graphics.jpg


and we get 100% same performance between the mobile and the desktop GPUs.. Seeing how the Pascal architecture is and how it can fit in a such really small die:

PASCAL-4.png


I am sure they will close the gap this time.
 
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