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[MatrixMan.EXE]

Square Enix didn't make the decision to put it on PS4 because of sales in the west, if they were interested in localising they would have said from the start instead of "no concrete plans". In fact Square Enix have said in the past that DQ is a Japanese series created with Japanese consumers in mind:
(Talking about localising DQVIIr)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=887309

That's the reality of it, however I'm just playing devil's advocate here, DQXI will be localised, it's just early days yet.

I don't think its THE reason, but I refuse to believe that they'd create a big RPG in UE4 for PS4 with the intention of keeping it locked in Japan. Not with PS4's install base there.

I agree, it will be localised. People just gonna have to wait a bit. It's still a long way off for Japan even.

 

[KtSlime]

It's already "global" It's on the youtubes. I'm not saying translate the conference or anything but at least acknowledge that the rest of the world might actually be interested in what you are saying.

Before you continue this kind of argument, I would like to point out, that living in a global world means nothing. Let’s consider this the other way, Sony, a Japanese company, when announcing the PS4, gave a date for it to be sold in the US, but in Japan they left it simply as TBA, and waited till the next year to make the announcement.

SE is doing nothing wrong here, it’s standard practice, just wait and stop acting so privileged.

 

[IAmRandom31]

Let's put it this way, do you really think Square Enix would be making an expensive looking RPG in UE4 for PS4 if their intention was to only sell it in Japan, where the PS4 isn't doing so hot? I've said it a few times already, but I think part of the reason a PS4 version even exists is because of the potential to sell it overseas.

You have to get games on your system that people will purchase a console for. The PS4 hasn't had many big system sellers just yet over there but those are coming. DQ is a system seller. It is only on the PS4 when it comes to home consoles ( until NX anyway ) so people who want to play it at home will pick up the PS4 for the game. Along with all the other titles coming out, I think the PS4 could see a rather big leap in terms of weekly sales come 2016 when the lineup starts to solidify more. You have both FFXV and DQXI coming out on PS4 in 2016 so ... that could be pretty big. Along with Persona and other stuff. And this time no PS3 for people to fall back on.

 

[sörine]

I'd take "consideration" as code for yes it's happening. DQXI will be localized. DQXI will also be on NX. That SE is even talking about either is itself a good indication.

 

[Error]

Sorry what fiasco? It was simply one of many products not sold in your country, that is all. Can I call anything that I want that is not sold where I live a fiasco? I think not, that would be silly.

To me it was horrible, it was the remake I was most looking forward to of all the handheld remakes specially after the poor job they did with DQVIr (not the localization, I mean the actual game). So yeah it was a fiasco considering they are ok with localizing shit games, like Lightning Returns, that don't even come close to DQ7's quality and wouldn't have cost as much to localize.

how come atlus can handle big localization jobs like Persona, but SE can't handle a localization which afaik doesn't even have voice acting like DQ7r. There are just no excuses. Their handling of DQ reminds me of Capcom handling of MH, except Capcom never gave up and it paid off massively with MH4.

 

[Devilgunman]

Square Enix didn't make the decision to put it on PS4 because of sales in the west, if they were interested in localising they would have said from the start instead of "no concrete plans". In fact Square Enix have said in the past that DQ is a Japanese series created with Japanese consumers in mind:
(Talking about localising DQVIIr)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=887309

That's the reality of it, however I'm just playing devil's advocate here, DQXI will be localised, it's just early days yet.

In the very article, Miyake said this

... if this were a console game, we'd be taking a lot of risk on a single title.

The reason DQVII didn't get localized because it was on handheld and the handheld market is less robust outside Japan. DQ franchise has never really gain much traction in the west, so spending money to localize handheld version of DQ doesn't make a financial sense to SQE.

But console version of DQ is different story. As he said above, when it comes to a big console game, they would love to take a risk, especially with the way PS4 is pushing historical numbers in the west as of now. There is no way SQE would make decision to put DQXI on PS4 without looking at sale projection in the west. It is most likely coming but there is no reason to announce that during the first showcase of the game.

 

[Koozek]

Watch Zelda U switching to UE4 and release on NX only.

 

[Tanston]

Before you continue this kind of argument, I would like to point out, that living in a global world means nothing. Let’s consider this the other way, Sony, a Japanese company, when announcing the PS4, gave a date for it to be sold in the US, but in Japan they left it simply as TBA, and waited till the next year to make the announcement.

SE is doing nothing wrong here, it’s standard practice, just wait and stop acting so privileged.

I don't want to argue on the internet so this will be my last post on the subject.
I'm not saying they are doing anything wrong. They are free to do what they want. But if they truly care about building this brand in the west then leaving fans in the dark doesn't seem like the best way to go about that. News travels across the globe almost instantaneously these days, it's shortsighted for them to assume that the global fanbase isn't watching their announcement with bated breath.

I am very excited for this game and would be more excited if I knew for a concrete fact I would one day get to play it. That's pretty much all there is to it.

 

[StevieP]

You have to get games on your system that people will purchase a console for. The PS4 hasn't had many big system sellers just yet over there but those are coming. DQ is a system seller. It is only on the PS4 when it comes to home consoles ( until NX anyway ) so people who want to play it at home will pick up the PS4 for the game. Along with all the other titles coming out, I think the PS4 could see a rather big leap in terms of weekly sales come 2016 when the lineup starts to solidify more. You have both FFXV and DQXI coming out on PS4 in 2016 so ... that could be pretty big. Along with Persona and other stuff. And this time no PS3 for people to fall back on.

The dominant dedicated platform in Japan is the 3ds, and it's getting what's looking like the primary focus sku. I'm not saying there won't be a home console bump here, but let's not get crazy with believing people are going to skip the sku for the hardware they own so they can go out and get another expensive box.

 

[Maniel]

Can't wait to play this game even thought i've never played a dragon quest before. From what I understand its like old school Final Fantasy except now with better graphics. Sign me up for ps4.

 

[Philippo]

Can't wait to play this game even thought i've never played a dragon quest before. From what I understand its like old school Final Fantasy except now with better graphics. Sign me up for ps4.

Well you have a HxH avatar, you should either despise the DQ series with all your heart because it keeps Togashi away from work, or completely embrace the author's way and love it!

Spoiler

Watch him never write another chapter again because he'll have TWO DQXIs to play

 

[Nightengale]

The dominant dedicated platform in Japan is the 3ds, and it's getting what's looking like the primary focus sku. I'm not saying there won't be a home console bump here, but let's not get crazy with believing people are going to skip the sku for the hardware they own so they can go out and get another expensive box.

It's not about skipping the SKUs, it's about enticing a % of the 5-million-strong DQ fanbase who might be enticed by a console-quality DQ experience to buy into the PS4.

Let's say only 10% of the mainline DQ fanbase buys a PS4 just for DQXI. That's 400-500k increase in install base on its own.

A large portion of DQXI will be sold on the 3DS in Japan, and a large majority won't be tempted to buy a PS4 for it. But it does't need a large majority. If the combination of the existing install base that will be there before DQXI comes out, on top of the appeal of a visually stunning DQ experience can push... very idealistically, say 1-1.5 million copies of DQXI on PS4, I think that's already a win.

 

[Maniel]

Well you have a HxH avatar, you should either despise the DQ series with all your heart because it keeps Togashi away from work, or completely embrace the author's way and love it!

Spoiler

Watch him never write another chapter again because he'll have TWO DQXIs to play

Haha if Togashi loves it and it is keeping him away from HxH then maybe I should play them all too to pass the time until he decides to get back to work!

 

[BadWolf]

A large portion of DQXI will be sold on the 3DS in Japan, and a large majority won't be tempted to buy a PS4 for it. But it does't need a large majority. If the combination of the existing install base that will be there before DQXI comes out, on top of the appeal of a visually stunning DQ experience can push... very idealistically, say 1-1.5 million copies of DQXI on PS4, I think that's already a win.

If DQXI launches after FFXV, which it most likely will, then it will be launching to a much increased PS4 userbase in Japan. Combine that with the increase that DQXI itself will cause and the numbers should be pretty respectable.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

The dominant dedicated platform in Japan is the 3ds, and it's getting what's looking like the primary focus sku. I'm not saying there won't be a home console bump here, but let's not get crazy with believing people are going to skip the sku for the hardware they own so they can go out and get another expensive box.

I don't understand how anyone can assume 3DS is the 'primary focus' sku, especially when its using a bunch of reused assets. I doubt any version has priority over the other. They're being developed by completely different studios and are coming out at the same time lol This next year is going to be insufferable if this is the kind of narrative that's going to be pushed in Media Create threads.

 

[StevieP]

I don't understand how anyone can assume 3DS is the 'primary focus' sku, especially when its using a bunch of reused assets. I doubt any version has priority over the other. They're being developed by completely different studios and are coming out at the same time lol This next year is going to be insufferable if this is the kind of narrative that's going to be pushed in Media Create threads.

I mean, you can call it a narrative. Or you can call it what it is - the version that is likely the bigger internal focus of the two based solely on sales potential. The stream sorta gave that away.

I didn't say anything about which one is going to be more expensive, because the likely answer to that question is certainly easier to guess.

 

[Kintaro]

I don't want to argue on the internet so this will be my last post on the subject.
I'm not saying they are doing anything wrong. They are free to do what they want. But if they truly care about building this brand in the west then leaving fans in the dark doesn't seem like the best way to go about that. News travels across the globe almost instantaneously these days, it's shortsighted for them to assume that the global fanbase isn't watching their announcement with bated breath.

I am very excited for this game and would be more excited if I knew for a concrete fact I would one day get to play it. That's pretty much all there is to it.

Do they truly care? Obviously, they have the sales data to look at, analyze and decide that "you know what? It's not worth it." Even with Nintendo heavily advertising the titles.

DQXI will make it over. PS4 version anyway. Sony will publish so SE can play it safe.

However, "building the brand in the west"? I doubt they have any interest or intention.

 

[Spiegel]

I mean, you can call it a narrative. Or you can call it what it is - the version that is likely the bigger internal focus of the two based solely on sales potential. The stream sorta gave that away.
.

Can you tell us how did you get to this conclusion? I'm curious.

The game is the same on both platforms, graphics aside, and they played the PS4 demo for ~3 minutes longer that the 3DS demo.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I mean, you can call it a narrative. Or you can call it what it is - the version that is likely the bigger internal focus of the two based solely on sales potential. The stream sorta gave that away.

I didn't say anything about which one is going to be more expensive, because the likely answer to that question is certainly easier to guess.

The stream gave away nothing. The 3DS version looked further on for obvious reasons, and I sincerely doubt 'bigger focus' is one of them because as I say, they're being made by completely different studios and are set to release alongside each other.

It's pretty clear why the 3DS version is further along, and being the 'bigger focus' isn't that reason. If I wanted to be obtuse I could easily say the PS4 version is the bigger focus because its being made from the ground up on what is clearly a decently sized budget, whereas the 3DS version uses recycled assets. But that would be equally ridiculous.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Can you tell us how did you get to this conclusion? I'm curious.

The game is the same on both platforms, graphics aside, and they played the PS4d demo for ~3 minutes longer that the 3DS demo.

He's probably going to say the 3DS SKU is further along in development even though its pretty obvious why that is.

 

[thefro]

I don't think we can fully judge what Square-Enix's strategy is until we get more information on what their NX support will be.

Clearly they have a great relationship with Sony and are strongly supporting the PS4.

 

[Kintaro]

People may be getting that focus because the 3D/2D nature of the game. I don't think I've ever seen that before. It's entirely unique and a wonderful idea. It captures DQ's charm more than the PS4 clips did as it looked just similar to DQ8 but prettier.

Just felt like the reactions were stronger to the 3DS version than the PS4 version.

 

[synce]

Pretty sure you're not going to see any Japan-exclusives on PS4 or Xbone. Budgets are too high, they have to bring it over whether they want to or not.

 

[StevieP]

He's probably going to say the 3DS SKU is further along in development even though its pretty obvious why that is.

They're supposed to release at the same time

 

[SnowFlakeCake]

The dominant dedicated platform in Japan is the 3ds, and it's getting what's looking like the primary focus sku. I'm not saying there won't be a home console bump here, but let's not get crazy with believing people are going to skip the sku for the hardware they own so they can go out and get another expensive box.

What a silly thing to say, the PS4 version looked mighty impressive and it's clear the game is not very far along. To me the 3DS version simply looks a lot further along but there is absolutely nothing shown from the PS4 version that was shown which suggested they were skimping out on production values. I think both versions looked incredible, I've made clear that I don't care much for handheld gaming but the 3DS version looked nice, SE found a great way to make that version stand on its own compared to the PS4 version. If the NX is a handheld, I will most definitely pick the game up on that and of course the PS4.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

They're supposed to release at the same time

I know that.

 

[OmegaDL50]

I'm glad you're so optimistic. I've had 23 years of disappointment from Enix/Square Enix to fix any lingering optimism. I'll believe we're getting DQXI in the US when I have a copy in my hands.

There is 1.5 Million PS4's sold in Japan, compared to the 18.5 Million units sold worldwide.

Give me a good reason WHY it wouldn't be localized factoring these numbers.

There IS a reason why Dragon Quest XI won't be released on just the PS4 because there aren't nearly enough numbers in Japan to make it worthwhile, which is why the 3DS version is a factor since it's currently the number one selling platform in Japan, that isn't mobile.

Kind of like how the PS4 is currently the number one selling platform in the West.

This was a very strategical move since SE wants to obviously target the largest possible audience in Japan and the largest possible audience in the West, by focusing on both the 3DS and the PS4 you accomplish this very thing.

 

[crinale]

I know that.

They had to hide NPCs to avoid spoilers (with PS4's draw distance without tweaking you can see them easily I guess). With that in mind I came up with one crazy theory how the story goes..

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

They had to hide NPCs to avoid spoilers (with PS4's draw distance without tweaking you can see them easily I guess). With that in mind I came up with one crazy theory how the story goes..

Really?
Still wished we got to see a battle sequence. Whens the next time we will get info?

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

I'm down for another Dragon Quest. There hasn't been one for the home console since VIII.

 

[OmegaDL50]

I'm down for another Dragon Quest. There hasn't been one for the home console since VIII.

Dragon Quest X was a home console release. Didn't get a western localization, but still released for home console regardless.

 

[Elios83]

Pretty confident that at least the PS4 version will be localized, Sony has localized Yakuza 5 by themselves because fans asked and the whole purpose of the PS4 version seems to be pushing sales in the west, but imo both will make it to the west.

 

[crinale]

Really?
Still wished we got to see a battle sequence. Whens the next time we will get info?

Yeah Horii mentioned it while he was exploring town on PS4 version.
He also boasted how far you could see by pointing out NPCs extremely far away he didn't remove.

 

[NinjaMouse]

Pretty sure you're not going to see any Japan-exclusives on PS4 or Xbone. Budgets are too high, they have to bring it over whether they want to or not.

This is amazingly optimistic. I thought the same thing about Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin and Zero. I said to myself, "but the PS4 NEEDS games! They can't afford to not localize these..."

 

[AmyS]

Posted?

GT discussion on the Dragon Quest XI reveal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=39&v=0VeGoQVek2s

 

[Pinky]

Posted?

GT discussion on the Dragon Quest VI reveal]

Spoiler

 

[KZObsessed]

Lol^^

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Yeah Horii mentioned it while he was exploring town on PS4 version.
He also boasted how far you could see by pointing out NPCs extremely far away he didn't remove.

ahh so thats why we saw some on that bridge really high up.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

In case SE won't localize PS4 version. People should spam Gio Corsi's twitter so TPP know about it

 

[Night Hunter]

Come on people, there is no doubt that this will come to the west, at least the PS4 version. They are not going to invest heavily into a HD JRPG only to sell it to the few people who don't get the 3DS version in Japan.

 

[Rocky]

Nintendo is now releasing Pokemon globally. If they can get the localization done during development and release the games globally, why can't SE?

 

[Grewitch]

I thought 2015 was good, but at this rate 2016 will be an embarrassment of riches. I've only ever played DQ 8, and loved it. These games look great.

 

[Spieler Eins]

Nintendo is now releasing Pokemon globally. If they can get the localization done during development and release the games globally, why can't SE?

Because Pokemon is globally successful and hence demands it more than DQ.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Nintendo is now releasing Pokemon globally. If they can get the localization done during development and release the games globally, why can't SE?

Most of SE games (except The Last Remnant and FFXIV) take months for localization so i don't expect DQXI changes that (if SE decide to localize)

 

[IAmRandom31]

The dominant dedicated platform in Japan is the 3ds, and it's getting what's looking like the primary focus sku. I'm not saying there won't be a home console bump here, but let's not get crazy with believing people are going to skip the sku for the hardware they own so they can go out and get another expensive box.

I have a feeling Sony will push more bundles and special deals when this hits. There should be a price drop in place by the time this game hits so you could see $299 or lower Dragon Quest 30th anniversary bundles and such.

I'm not saying people will skip over the 3DS version for the PS4 version ( though some might if they would rather play it at home on the TV ). Basically Enix is giving people 2 choices. Play it on the go on 3DS or play it at home on the PS4. No other choices ( until NX, whenever that is ). Tons will go for the mobile option, some will go for both options, some will go for the PS4 option. I wouldn't be shocked at a 90/10 type split under these circumstances at launch but as the PS4 userbase increases it should steadily stay a seller. People buying the PS4 months later grabbing it also or whatever.

It won't be the type of bump the game being purely exclusive would of been, but it should see a pretty solid jump in sales. Especially with other titles like FFXV either already being out or coming out also kind of driving the momentum for the system. FF will be the big one I think since that one is purely exclusive to the PS4 and people will have to grab the system to play it. You could also have a Gran Turismo PS4 title hitting around the end of 2016 which would help drive sales.

Just saying, this is a big grab for Sony in Japan. No bigger franchise over there then DQ besides maybe Pokemon or something. Or Yukai Watch these days lol

 

[SDCowboy]

So is there any real hope for this coming to the US/West?

 

[BadWolf]

So is there any real hope for this coming to the US/West?

Yes.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

So is there any real hope for this coming to the US/West?

I'm pretty sure 100% it will come to West because it's crazy if they invest a lot for PS4 version just to sell it in Japan

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

purrrrrfect

 

[OrbitalBeard]

So is there any real hope for this coming to the US/West?

Yeah, it'll come.