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Derek Smart just had his manhood taken by RSI's lawyers (Star Citizen)

akira28

Member
Read like someone attempting to dress someone down over the internet. I was expecting some real fire, but I guess the lawyers don't want to open themselves up like D Smart has...
 

epmode

Member
In case it's not clear, the author of that letter co-founded Cloud Imperium Games (the developer of Star Citizen).
 
Looks like RSI finally got fed up of this clown's antics. You don't come back from a letter like this.

You don't know Derek Smart. He won't come back well, and he's only going to dig the hole deeper, but seriously, the day Derek Smart actually let's something go is gonna be the day Derek Smart releases a working game.

Ok that's three name drops, that should be enough to summon him.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Looks like RSI finally got fed up of this clown's antics. You don't come back from a letter like this.

You don't know Derek Smart. He won't come back well, and he's only going to dig the hole deeper, but seriously, the day Derek Smart actually let's something go is gonna be the day Derek Smart releases a working game.

Ok that's three name drops, that should be enough to summon him.

You do know your stuff. The SomethingAwful tread had a link to the alleged response from Smarts side to that ether-y letter.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4497650/15-09-15_response_to_RSI_letter.pdf

Lots of duudaa in it, but my reading of it can be TL:DR to "No, you." All in all, nowhere near the entertainment value and I still don't see much actual, sturdy legal backing behind it, beside all the pretty words.
 

SnowTeeth

Banned

Imbarkus

As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
You do know your stuff. The SomethingAwful tread had a link to the alleged response from Smarts side to that ether-y letter.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4497650/15-09-15_response_to_RSI_letter.pdf

Lots of duudaa in it, but my reading of it can be TL:DR to "No, you." All in all, nowhere near the entertainment value and I still don't see much actual, sturdy legal backing behind it, beside all the pretty words.

protecting the integrity of the gaming industry

yeesh
 
I've seen some fucked up stuff when I worked in a funeral home. But until today, I've never seen a man get eviscerated. That letter is another level.
 

FACE

Banned
Your client's defamatory claims are entirely without merit and include unfounded allegations that the funds raised for the project were used improperly, even fraudulently. In this vain, your client is now asking for a "forensic accounting" to be made available to him. Firstly, there is obviously no legal basis for your client's request and your letter cites no such authority. Secondly, the ample information provided regularly on our extensive website, including monthly progress reports from each studio, published headcounts and the like, would enable any person familiar with the cost of game development to assess the proper spending of the funds raised. Your client claims to be such an experienced person, so we are a bit perplexed about this demand coming in particular from him. However, your client's past career performance, including struggles with tax liens and a bankruptcy proceeding, begs the question what makes him think that he is even qualified to review and properly assess the information demanded by him. The complete absence of any functioning or successful game having ever been released by him in his 20+ year "career" of game development further raises the question why he would consider himself qualified to cast any judgment on "Star Citizen." Unlike his endeavors in the game development field, "Star Citizen" and the modules and work released to date have received enthusiastic responses in the game community and press, a success that continues unimpeded despite your client's desperate efforts to harm it for his own publicity gains.

I hope RSI's lawyers dropped a mic after writing this paragraph.
 
You do know your stuff. The SomethingAwful tread had a link to the alleged response from Smarts side to that ether-y letter.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4497650/15-09-15_response_to_RSI_letter.pdf

Lots of duudaa in it, but my reading of it can be TL:DR to "No, you." All in all, nowhere near the entertainment value and I still don't see much actual, sturdy legal backing behind it, beside all the pretty words.

Wow.

Passing the word back hard! This letter is far better then the one RSI sent him.

Pretty damming


....There's a juicy bit about Chris's failed films and a self admission that he wished someone would have sat him down and made him reign in his crazy ideas.

Fight!
 

Imbarkus

As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Wow.

Passing the word back hard! This letter is far better then the one RSI sent him.

Pretty damming


....There's a juicy bit about Chris's failed films and a self admission that he wished someone would have sat him down and made him reign in his crazy ideas.

Fight!

Meh, I may have my concerns about Star Citizen but Roberts still has the edge in shipped games cred.

Smart's spending too much time in the winter house.

Glass-Houses-01.jpg
 

Xane

Member
Encourages people to seek refunds for Star Citizen while refusing to give them for his own game and banning people who comment on it.

This is from this month: http://steamcommunity.com/app/266620/discussions/0/520518053453055651/

This needs to be put in spotlight way more often. Almost everything he accuses CIG of doing or not doing can be routed back to his most recent project. How can he accuse someone else when he is doing much worse!? Here are some of Derek's accusations and concerns:



The game has been in development, according to Mr. Roberts himself, for more than four years (one year prior to the Kickstarter Campaign);
Derek Smart's Line of Defense has been in development for over five years and one year in early-access.

In four years, no game has been delivered, other than three incomplete and buggy components;
Yeah, because after five years of development, Line of Defense is looking so much better.

What he is interested in, however, is protecting the integrity of the gaming industry, and protecting the thousands of people that have invested in the Star Citizen project and who want a game or their investment
And I want to protect people from wasting their money on his waste of resources under the name of Line of Defense with the majority of people responding overly negative about the game's quality and are asking for refunds - OH WAIT, Derek doesn't allow for refunds.


What irony.
 

aliengmr

Member
Wow.

Passing the word back hard! This letter is far better then the one RSI sent him.

Pretty damming


....There's a juicy bit about Chris's failed films and a self admission that he wished someone would have sat him down and made him reign in his crazy ideas.

Fight!

Like making just average playable games?

Maybe he should sue himself?
 
They should focus on Star Citizen instead of this space cadet

They are. Their LAWYERS can focus on that attention grabber.

God. I actually wish places like PC Gamer, Gamespot and IGN would actually call out DS and his LoD project. Right now Derek is coming across as the guy everyone should try to ignore.

That's what he wants.

What needs to happen is people need to go at him the same way he's going at CIG, and no one with muscle and economic clout is doing it. It's pissing me off.

Derek Smart is as transparent as anyone...yet he's free to continue being Derek Smart. The town crier that no one asked for.
 

Zambayoshi

Member
According to Smart, Freyermuth made a lot of factual errors in that 'smackdown' letter. I won't link it, but it's in an update on Smart's blog.

Apparently the tax liens were standard IRS practice when you have a variable income (end up earning more than you expect) and the bankruptcy was something that was resolved within a few months.

Seems like Freyermuth (or Roberts) just got the shits and started flinging muck straight back at Smart.

I don't think they should even be giving him the exposure. If he wants to go through the courts, let him. Otherwise, stop giving him oxygen.
 

ultrazilla

Gold Member
However you feel about Smart, I do feel like he's being honest here with these recent firings and the stuff going down behind the scenes at RSI. Something is terribly wrong there.

Someone leaked an internal document(said to be legit by various sources) that says RSI only has 8 million in the bank and will burn through it by Q1 2016.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snh7pg

If this turns out to be true, this will go down as the largest failure ever of a crowdfunding campaign(there's no way the game can get finished by Q1 2016)
 
However you feel about Smart, I do feel like he's being honest here with these recent firings and the stuff going down behind the scenes at RSI. Something is terribly wrong there.

Someone leaked an internal document(said to be legit by various sources) that says RSI only has 8 million in the bank and will burn through it by Q1 2016.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snh7pg

If this turns out to be true, this will go down as the largest failure ever of a crowdfunding campaign(there's no way the game can get finished by Q1 2016)

oh my gerd a leaaaaak

oh my heeeerd

must be true
 

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
However you feel about Smart, I do feel like he's being honest here with these recent firings and the stuff going down behind the scenes at RSI. Something is terribly wrong there.

Someone leaked an internal document(said to be legit by various sources) that says RSI only has 8 million in the bank and will burn through it by Q1 2016.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snh7pg

If this turns out to be true, this will go down as the largest failure ever of a crowdfunding campaign(there's no way the game can get finished by Q1 2016)

please don't say things like this

this terrifies me
 

jediyoshi

Member
However you feel about Smart, I do feel like he's being honest here with these recent firings and the stuff going down behind the scenes at RSI. Something is terribly wrong there.

Someone leaked an internal document(said to be legit by various sources) that says RSI only has 8 million in the bank and will burn through it by Q1 2016.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snh7pg

If this turns out to be true, this will go down as the largest failure ever of a crowdfunding campaign(there's no way the game can get finished by Q1 2016)

woooooo nellly
 

ultrazilla

Gold Member
please don't say things like this

this terrifies me

If there's smoke, there's fire? I remember a few months back when there was news that some significant team members left quickly(which this seems to collaborate Smart's update today). This seems to have been tied to the leaking or discovery of a bank statement that showed only 8 million left in the bank. RSI is said to be burning through 3 million plus a month for all their studios and employees. So they'd most likely be "broke" by Q1 2016.

I'm a Star Citizen backer and I'll tell you. There's hardly any content imho. The "social hub" is a joke. Everything just feels empty or rushed. I'll probably ask for a refund.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
 
If there's smoke, there's fire? I remember a few months back when there was news that some significant team members left quickly(which this seems to collaborate Smart's update today). This seems to have been tied to the leaking or discovery of a bank statement that showed only 8 million left in the bank. RSI is said to be burning through 3 million plus a month for all their studios and employees. So they'd most likely be "broke" by Q1 2016.

I'm a Star Citizen backer and I'll tell you. There's hardly any content imho. The "social hub" is a joke. Everything just feels empty or rushed. I'll probably ask for a refund.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
No offense, but there is no evidence that anything is problematic at RSI and spreading rumors based on stuff that smart writes is down rigth purposefully deceitful at this point.

The people that have lef,t left for a variety of personal reasons and that happens with any project. It has nothing to do with anything Derek DF* is talking about.

*
DF= Dumb Fuck

And if you are disappointed in the modules to date, please ask for a refund: but I think you are misunderstanding the entire purpose of the modules or even how long an MMO takes to develop.
 
If there's smoke, there's fire? I remember a few months back when there was news that some significant team members left quickly(which this seems to collaborate Smart's update today). This seems to have been tied to the leaking or discovery of a bank statement that showed only 8 million left in the bank. RSI is said to be burning through 3 million plus a month for all their studios and employees. So they'd most likely be "broke" by Q1 2016.

I'm a Star Citizen backer and I'll tell you. There's hardly any content imho. The "social hub" is a joke. Everything just feels empty or rushed. I'll probably ask for a refund.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

I'm worried.


Actually, I'm not. Not in the least.

If I was waiting for a quality LoD release though, I'd be worried as F*CK.
 

Raticus79

Seek victory, not fairness
However you feel about Smart, I do feel like he's being honest here with these recent firings and the stuff going down behind the scenes at RSI. Something is terribly wrong there.

Now try to find a source for any of that. There's no record of that person actually being the one who wrote that letter.

It's all the same rehashed speculation from old blogs which has been repeated long enough that it's now being stated as fact.

New twist is he's making up specifics. "You won't believe tip number 3" technique.

I'm totally gonna sue, you guys! Check my blog for details on this scandal and feed me ad money!

Edit: there actually is a grain of truth to it there - looks like Alyssa and James no longer have profiles there, and she was posting about "Quite a curveball today" - https://mobile.twitter.com/AlyssaDelo/status/647171872669302784
So the next question is how much of the other stuff holds up and what's just playing on doubts.
 
If there's smoke, there's fire? I remember a few months back when there was news that some significant team members left quickly(which this seems to collaborate Smart's update today). This seems to have been tied to the leaking or discovery of a bank statement that showed only 8 million left in the bank. RSI is said to be burning through 3 million plus a month for all their studios and employees. So they'd most likely be "broke" by Q1 2016.

I'm a Star Citizen backer and I'll tell you. There's hardly any content imho. The "social hub" is a joke. Everything just feels empty or rushed. I'll probably ask for a refund.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

Oh, well, if you're a Star Citzen backer then that legitimises all your baseless nonsense!
 

Lothars

Member
If there's smoke, there's fire? I remember a few months back when there was news that some significant team members left quickly(which this seems to collaborate Smart's update today). This seems to have been tied to the leaking or discovery of a bank statement that showed only 8 million left in the bank. RSI is said to be burning through 3 million plus a month for all their studios and employees. So they'd most likely be "broke" by Q1 2016.

I'm a Star Citizen backer and I'll tell you. There's hardly any content imho. The "social hub" is a joke. Everything just feels empty or rushed. I'll probably ask for a refund.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
Sounds like your pulling a derek smart. Passing things that you think is "legit" as proof and saying your a backer.
 

MattKeil

BIGTIME TV MOGUL #2
However you feel about Smart, I do feel like he's being honest here with these recent firings and the stuff going down behind the scenes at RSI. Something is terribly wrong there.

Absolutely nothing rumored about RSI, even if it were true, is unusual in the process of a long development cycle. Why anyone doubts this game is a real thing, even if it's not going to be everything that was promised/imagined on day one, after the Gamescom demo is beyond me.
 
However you feel about Smart, I do feel like he's being honest here with these recent firings and the stuff going down behind the scenes at RSI. Something is terribly wrong there.

Someone leaked an internal document(said to be legit by various sources) that says RSI only has 8 million in the bank and will burn through it by Q1 2016.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snh7pg

If this turns out to be true, this will go down as the largest failure ever of a crowdfunding campaign(there's no way the game can get finished by Q1 2016)

Considering the cost of rent in Santa Monica, the fact they just moved into a bigger, newer, more expensive office, and the salaries for game developers in Santa Monica, I don't see how they could even survive until the end of the year on $8mm. And that doesn't include their four million other studios.

This all assumes this "leak" is true.
 

DrBo42

Member
Man, could you imagine if they actually did run out of money? Would there even be a comparable example in dev history of worse management? Maybe the Amalur stuff would come close, don't remember the exact numbers behind that. I don't doubt that they're burning through money at an insane rate with the studios they have running though...
 

epmode

Member
Seriously. The last place you're going to get reliable information on Star Citizen is Dr. Derek Smart. Where have you been for the last decade or two?

Christ, I wouldn't even trust him talking about his own game.
 
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