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[JumpCancel]

Don't even get dragged into the argument, you've got the facts. Everyone knows exactly what Marie Rose is there for. Team Ninja took a pretty big step over the line with her.

Oh I know. I thought someone should put in a straightforward, thought out counter argument that "You know shes meant to be a fucking child dude".

 

[Palette Swap]

There is however a huge overlap between whining about a nonexistent threat to DoAX3 being localized and being part of GamerGate.

Absolutely. I'm not a DoA fan but I'd be fucking livid if I were.
These guys care a lot more about holding a case that proves their worldview (feminists ruining everything) than about the game. They'll eventually move on to something else.

 

[muteki]

It could be worse, she could dress and act like an 18 year old.

Lisa missing is the biggest tragedy.

Damn straight.

 

[formasymphonic]

He said that the company didn't want troubles with bad press about how they treat women.
He was also a bit aggressive.

Exactly, Dragon's Crown eventually released and sold over a million copies.

Same with DOA5 itself which went through the whole 'controversial' aspect, it still sold over a million, and that's before their DLC and costume scheme kicked in.

They silenced the guy who said the truth about their business perspective. I think that's true enough. There's no reason the other Xtreme games could make it over and not this one outside of their weak attitude.

Part of me feels bad for the guy because he clearly isn't a native english speaker and the choice of words could have been better nuanced. But there is no doubt in my mind that he is saying what KT is probably feeling internally.

Its not just the games themselves though, its also what they are doing with DLC (as seen by DOA5, 5+, Ultimate through to 5LR). I also feel like what we saw with them though is gonna be nothing compared to how far they go with DOAX3 considering that the starting point is already bikinis...

The question should more so be why bother making a DOAX3 at all if we go just off the bolded.

According to wikipedia, DOAX2 was in 2006. A lot has changed in 9-10 years in terms of how games can be financed (Digital Retail, F2P, Microtransactions etc) and other cultural factors (increasing effects otaku-revenue has domestically).

Theoretically, X3 as a game could sell the same or even worse than X2 but be dramatically more profitable for them thanks to being able to increasingly target (and even artificially induce) whale like behaviour. Consider the poll process that required players to buy something to get their vote. They claimed they only had time to do work for 9 characters. They decided to optimise their revenue potential by using characters who would be most likely to inspire the portion of the fanbase who were ok with parting with additional finances.

They probably do not cost that much to make, and can be monetized up the wazoo with DLC just like all of K-T's titles. So they have a small but dedicated base of fans willing to pay hundreds of dollars per sale, making it worthwhile in the territories they are releasing it in.

Indeed. When KT report their digital revenue financials after X3 is out, we will probably see that their filtering process worked.

Pretty sure her age is 18

don't do this guys... we all know this ends up leading to the same circular arguments that people will just agree to disagree on.

ayyyyy she looks like she should be a third grader

Fuck outta here with that.

don't do this guys... we all know this ends up leading to the same circular arguments that people will just agree to disagree on.

 

[LordJim]

"We are still not bringing the game here, for reasons we are no telling, but rest assured, not the ones that would annoy you'.
What a great non-answer and the west still does not get the game

 

[partyphone]

It could be worse, she could dress and act like an 18 year old.

oh. my. god.

 

[tiredheadcrab]

Still nothing about Ninja Gaiden Black HD? Ahh nuts.

 

[andymcc]

It could be worse, she could dress and act like an 18 year old.

that's something...

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

It could be worse, she could dress and act like an 18 year old.

I uh. What?

 

[SDBurton]

Lisa missing is the biggest tragedy.

That's not how you spell Christie! :O

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

Still nothing about Ninja Gaiden Black HD? Ahh nuts.

I'd kill for this so long as Hayashi does not make any "improvements."

 

[fates]

Huh? Is that an old user with the same avatar?

Yeah, an old moderator. Threw me off too at first glance! You don't have to change it though, you can't go wrong with Hrist.

 

[ShinRPGamer]

no anime avatar...i don't know how to respond to this...

A flat "what" should be sufficient.

 

[L Thammy]

I think that comment was supposed to mean that she could be designed to look like a kid while wearing blatantly sleazy outfits that are generally reserved for more adult characters (like the venus bikini or whatever it was that's basically just a string of small jewels).

Or maybe I'm wrong and the post was worded properly.

People were joking about the evil SJWs infiltrating Koei Tecmo early on but that does seem to be the theory some are going with:

https://i.imgur.com/GwgxyEx.png

Complete with creepy Linkedin stalking.

I found the source of the SJW infection!

 

[aeolist]

People were joking about the evil skeletons infiltrating Koei Tecmo early on but that does seem to be the theory some are going with:

https://i.imgur.com/GwgxyEx.png

Complete with creepy Linkedin stalking.

the inevitable email bombing accompanied by death threats will surely convince KT to localize the game!

 

[Trojita]

I'm going to be the prophet Trojitadamus

We have not seen the worst Marie Rose costumes yet. We are going to have the opposite problem from the current suits when she starts wearing suits we've seen on Kasumi and the like.

That DLC $$$

 

[aeolist]

I think that comment was supposed to mean that she could be designed to look like a kid while wearing blatantly sleazy outfits that are generally reserved for more adult characters (like the venus bikini or whatever it was that's basically just a string of small jewels).

Or maybe I'm wrong and the post was worded properly.

i took it as "18 year old kids suck" which is totally true

 

[Mesoian]

I'm going to be the prophet Trojitadamus

We have not seen the worst Marie Rose costumes yet. We are going to have the opposite problem from the current suits when she starts wearing suits we've seen on Kasumi and the like.

That DLC $$$

It's coming.

i took it as "18 year old kids suck" which is totally true

Life is Strange reinforced that for me in a way I was not prepared for.

 

[Crossing Eden]

the inevitable email bombing accompanied by death threats will surely convince KT to localize the game!

And surely those damn SJWs are the one that're evil in this situation.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

I should mention that she has now deleted that tweet.

If it ever existed in the first place. There's no archive link for it. lol

 

[muteki]

I'm going to be the prophet Trojitadamus

We have not seen the worst Marie Rose costumes yet. We are going to have the opposite problem from the current suits when she starts wearing suits we've seen on Kasumi and the like.

That DLC $$$

This is inevitable.

 

[Cloyster]

I'm a DoA fan, Marie is my main, anyone who says her character isn't pandering to pedophilia is wrong.

I really don't think pedophilia is the right word to use. Is there a known link between being a lolicon, and have pedophilic tendencies? If not, I'd like to think we should consider them separate things until research supports a link.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

which special interest group (whatever that means) has actually made any impact on this game's lack of localization, that you know of?

Except for that no special interest groups at all rallied against this game. This entire thing started from some dumbass on the Play Asia twitter fabricating bogeymen, but no one actually attempted to prevent the game from being localized.

I don't see how they're "annoying" when they didn't have anything to do with this decision.

Any set of people who throw a fit for something that isn't world ending. If I was Playasia I would have just stayed out of it because it's easy to offend these days.

Either bring the game over or not. I see little issue.

 

[Mesoian]

I really don't think pedophilia is the right word to use. Is there a known link between being a lolicon, and have pedophilic tendencies? If not, I'd like to think we should consider them separate things until research supports a link.

I mean...those are some real "fanservice vs hentai" discussions that, as we continue down the road, gets REALLY blurry and hard to discern.

 

[Warxard]

It could be worse, she could dress and act like an 18 year old.
.

lol

 

[Toxi]

Any set of people who throw a fit for something that isn't world ending. If I was Playasia I would have just stayed out of it because it's easy to offend these days.

You do realize half the reason this thing went down was that Play-Asia was getting outraged about imaginary people, right?

 

[Sai-kun]

Any set of people who throw a fit for something that isn't world ending. If I was Playasia I would have just stayed out of it because it's easy to offend these days.

Either bring the game over or not. I see little issue.

what do you imagine was happening with this game because play-asia started all of this?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

You do realize half the reason this thing went down was that Play-Asia was getting outraged about imaginary people, right?

That's their problem then. I either want to buy a game or not.

I'm this case, I have little issue with the game and that's the main reason I have lacked the interest. Boobs and all that do nothing or else I would be more tongue and cheek when a new trailer is released.

 

[formasymphonic]

The comments recently made by a guy we pay to speak on our behalf regarding DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme 3 on the official DEAD OR ALIVE Facebook page indeed reflect the opinion and business strategy of Koei Tecmo Games. However, we don't really want to admit to that yet so we will be currently throwing him under a bus.

We remain focused on delivering the best in fighting entertainment and pursuit of the Guinness world record for DLC costumes to our fans around the world. — Particularly for those fans with a high disposable income — while consciously respecting and strategizing to support the different amounts of fanservice we feel we can get away with for each part of the global audience the DEAD OR ALIVE franchise lends itself to.

DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme 3 remains in development and is still planned for release in the Galapagos only. However, if the margins on the DLC are good enough, we may say fuck it and release anyway. We thank you in advance for your purchase of DOAX3 and double dip of the inevitable DOAX3+,

Spoiler

Ultimate and Last Round

.

 

[L Thammy]

The comments recently made by a guy we pay to speak on our behalf regarding DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme 3 on the official DEAD OR ALIVE Facebook page indeed reflect the opinion and business strategy of Koei Tecmo Games. However, we don't really want to admit to that yet so we will be currently throwing him under a bus.

I'm not sure if you meant it that way, but this is totally how Gamergate is going to read this.

 

[Toxi]

I'm not sure if you meant it that way, but this is totally how Gamergate is going to read this.

That's how they're already reading this.

 

[Trojita]

I'm not sure if you meant it that way, but this is totally how Gamergate is going to read this.

That's how they're already reading this.

TBH that statement is likely closer to the truth and doesn't have much to do with gamergate. K-T is observing an imaginary boogie man or threat (if they aren't using this as a marketing ploy) the same way gamergate is.

 

[formasymphonic]

I'm not sure if you meant it that way, but this is totally how Gamergate is going to read this.

Well, I assumed people would be able to tell by the tone of the whole thing but its all meant to be taken as a joke. If the Galapagos and DLC parts didn't give it away, I don't know what to say.

I was gonna photoshop a copy of the pic for added effect but didn't really feel the need to go that far.

 

[eksy]

Looks like with the delays of other games, February is relatively free and open for this game.

I wonder if it will be available through the JP PSN store. I'd rather get it there rather than import it. I think I saw a tutorial posted somewhere on how to make purchases from there...

 

[Inuhanyou]

Looks like with the delays of other games, February is relatively free and open for this game.

I wonder if it will be available through the JP PSN store. I'd rather get it there rather than import it. I think I saw a tutorial posted somewhere on how to make purchases from there...

Definitely, i'd think they would have no reason to not have it on PSN

 

[Mesoian]

Looks like with the delays of other games, February is relatively free and open for this game.

I wonder if it will be available through the JP PSN store. I'd rather get it there rather than import it. I think I saw a tutorial posted somewhere on how to make purchases from there...

...dude.

STREET FIGHTER.

 

[Sub_Level]

However, understanding I'm an outsider looking in, to someone with my perspective this just seems like a company is willing to give up an entire market because they don't want to put clothes on their female characters and stop overtly sexualizing them. I'm not sure if that says more about the company or the Japanese and Asian markets however

What is the point in a sexy beach volleyball game if you cover up the characters and stop overtly sexualizing them? That is the point of the product. That is the entire reason for the product to exist outside of minigames. I thought the problem was sexual objectification in games where it was less tasteful/more pandering/out-of-place.

 

[Vex_]

Part of me feels bad for the guy because he clearly isn't a native english speaker and the choice of words could have been better nuanced. But there is no doubt in my mind that he is saying what KT is probably feeling internally.

I was about to say:

I mean, so far... we have 2 people who work with KT speak on the issue (to my knowledge) A voice actor for Marie Rose, and a KT Rep on Facebook?

A company is gonna do what companies do to promote a good image (damage control), but one has to wonder how closely this resembles things going on internally. I mean, isn't this VERY strange behavior coming from representatives of a company like this?

 

[Tohsaka]

Looks like with the delays of other games, February is relatively free and open for this game.

I wonder if it will be available through the JP PSN store. I'd rather get it there rather than import it. I think I saw a tutorial posted somewhere on how to make purchases from there...

There is going to be an Asian English version as well, just make an account for the HK store unless you can read Japanese.

 

[aspiegamer]

Good work, internet! KT was soooo damn annoyed with everyone fighting over this game that they made a deliberate effort to get everyone to shut the hell up. If that's not a sign that they consider it to be bad PR to mess around with this game I don't know what is.

The comments recently made by a guy we pay to speak on our behalf regarding DEAD OR ALIVE Xtreme 3 on the official DEAD OR ALIVE Facebook page indeed reflect the opinion and business strategy of Koei Tecmo Games. However, we don't really want to admit to that yet so we will be currently throwing him under a bus.

This deserves an award for barely, barely riding the line on the side of sarcasm, about as close as anything ever can.

That's how they're already reading this.

And one assumes this person was removed from that position because they were a freaking idiot. Thus the clarification! Sigh. These people refuse to admit they're wrong, ever. The levels of denial have always been very impressive.

 

[repeater]

"Consciously respecting and strategizing" is some of the most amazing PR speak I've ever heard

 

[muteki]

Looks like with the delays of other games, February is relatively free and open for this game.

I wonder if it will be available through the JP PSN store. I'd rather get it there rather than import it. I think I saw a tutorial posted somewhere on how to make purchases from there...

Yeah it will be. You will need a JP PSN account (free and relatively straightforward to setup, should be tutorials on youtube) and will need to buy JP PSN cards to buy stuff. You can get these from places like Japan Codes or similar.

 

[Mesoian]

Meanwhile, the Valkyrie Drive vita game just got the go ahead for localization, the game about loli make out sessions to turn your girlfriend into a weapon and fight, the end of which results in the losers generally being nude and then sexed up.

KT is full of shit.
PA is full of shit.
Your games aren't being taken away, the publishers are keeping them from you.

 

[Ivan Amiibo]

Still nothing about Ninja Gaiden Black HD? Ahh nuts.

that's what sigma was supposed to be. i know. "supposed to"

 

[Garrett Hawke]

I doubt this will be enough to dissuade the conspiracy theorists, though.

 

[Cloyster]

Meanwhile, the Valkyrie Drive vita game just got the go ahead for localization, the game about loli make out sessions to turn your girlfriend into a weapon and fight, the end of which results in the losers generally being nude and then sexed up.

KT is full of shit.
PA is full of shit.
Your games aren't being taken away, the publishers are keeping them from you.

Valkrie Drive hasn't gotten the go ahead for localization.

 

[kuroneko0509]

Meanwhile, the Valkyrie Drive vita game just got the go ahead for localization, the game about loli make out sessions to turn your girlfriend into a weapon and fight, the end of which results in the losers generally being nude and then sexed up.

KT is full of shit.
PA is full of shit.
Your games aren't being taken away, the publishers are keeping them from you.

KT is not XSeed. One's a more notable developer with bigger franchises, while XSeed does the niche and beyond.

 

[Lime]

I doubt this will be enough to dissuade the conspiracy theorists, though.

It didn't dissuade them from fabricating lies about Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, or Zoe Quinn. I have no idea how to break the illusion that these people continuously maintain despite what reality is telling them.

 

[cosmicblizzard]

No it's hilarious. Even funnier when you play Tales of Zestiria and there's this 1000 year old chick that looks fresh out of elementary school and she has a brother that's turned into a dragon.

Best of both worlds.

Even the developers are in on the joke!

To be fair, Edna isn't sexualized. Doesn't stop one of the characters from hitting on her of course.

 

[Malick[AI]]

I feel like this whole thing has only served to inform more people that this game even exists in the first place.