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Now that all the major players are known, are you sold on VR for this generation?
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CollectedDust
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Feeling dumb. I edited my post. Thanks senior grammar nazi.
Sanctuary
Member
3D implementation in modern TVs is declining drastically compared to the big push for it over the previous five years. I'm not really sure what your point is either regarding what I was talking about. We now have the ability to have it in our homes, so it might be able to reach more people for longer periods of time, but that doesn't mean it's going to last. Quite frankly, most of the people that I know that own 3D TVs only ever use them for a select few Blu-rays, and even then they still don't use them for that very often.
Couldn't help it, sorry. That's really the only thing I bother commenting on too.
shotgunbob04
Member
Nope. Still looks gimmicky.
I'll have to actually try out the headsets to really make the final decision.
I'll have to actually try out the headsets to really make the final decision.
DeCreeperHater
Banned
I'll wait 2 years to see if they are worth it.
flaxknuckles
Member
I keep almost pulling the trigger on a pre-order but I think I'm going to wait. The games and experiences releasing for VR headsets are only minigames or stuff I'd buy to justify my purchase but end up unsatisfied with.
And then it has not been revealed if the Oculus Rift can do roomscale as well as the Vive (I don't give a damn about Palmer's PR posts, I need to see it demonstrated) and I can't buy a Vive because the Oculus Touch controllers look way better to me.
And even if the content was there I would be too torn on which headset to buy so I will try to wait it out for at least a year. I'm not mad anymore about Oculus funding games, go ahead and make some AAA ones with all that Facebook money to make my decision easier.
And then it has not been revealed if the Oculus Rift can do roomscale as well as the Vive (I don't give a damn about Palmer's PR posts, I need to see it demonstrated) and I can't buy a Vive because the Oculus Touch controllers look way better to me.
And even if the content was there I would be too torn on which headset to buy so I will try to wait it out for at least a year. I'm not mad anymore about Oculus funding games, go ahead and make some AAA ones with all that Facebook money to make my decision easier.
It seems neat to goof around with for a bit, but I kinda think it'll be a couple of years before there's anything really compelling games-wise.
The tech is only going to get better and cheaper as well anyway so IMO there's no reason to wait until it's further along unless you're a tech nut willing to pay a lot.
The tech is only going to get better and cheaper as well anyway so IMO there's no reason to wait until it's further along unless you're a tech nut willing to pay a lot.
mikefrails
Banned
It's kind of expensive for the quality of software we're getting but I am interested.
PSVR is interesting since I don't have a gaming PC but the price is a little to much for my poor Canadian wallet.
Considering the headset alone is 550$, a bundle with move and the PS camera will probably be around 650-700$... I prefer spending that money towards great non-vr PS4 titles instead TBH.
Considering the headset alone is 550$, a bundle with move and the PS camera will probably be around 650-700$... I prefer spending that money towards great non-vr PS4 titles instead TBH.
Krisprolls
Banned
I'm sold on PSVR. It's affordable and it has the PS4 user base so it will have all the big games too. Devs go where the money is and like always it will be on consoles.
I'm not sold on PC VR though. PC VR is probably too expensive to take off outside of a niche so they probably won't get big games and both Oculus and Vive could die relatively early outside of small games and indies.
I think we'll see VR fits closed systems like consoles better than PCs because you need to be 100% sure how the game will run in VR. You'll get sickness on some PCs and it will turn people off pretty fast even if PC VR managed to survive with a small installed base.
All the PC configuration / settings / drivers hassles are bothersome on normal games, but they're killing blows on VR games. I think this point is wildly underestimated.
I'm not sold on PC VR though. PC VR is probably too expensive to take off outside of a niche so they probably won't get big games and both Oculus and Vive could die relatively early outside of small games and indies.
I think we'll see VR fits closed systems like consoles better than PCs because you need to be 100% sure how the game will run in VR. You'll get sickness on some PCs and it will turn people off pretty fast even if PC VR managed to survive with a small installed base.
All the PC configuration / settings / drivers hassles are bothersome on normal games, but they're killing blows on VR games. I think this point is wildly underestimated.
LostDonkey
Member
Er, what?
Not in the UK they don't. There are still many, many TV'S on the market that don't have any kind of 3d mode.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Strange, I walk into Best Buy here, and every mid to high end has 3D. The lower end/entry (sub $500 TV sets) usually do not.
They do not advertise as heavy, true, it just seems like a standard feature that has not disappeared. But there as an extra option.
I still think it is disingenuous to compare 3D TVs to VR.
Sanctuary
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Only because you want to believe in VR so hard right now. Both times 3D was introduced, it was touted as a new and great experience unlike what you had previously seen. I'd argue that today's 3D is even less compelling than the silly stuff from the 80s too. At least the gimmick was persistent through the entire movie.
You do realize that having 3D on a TV is just a way to drive up prices right? That's the main reason so many of the mid to high end sets had it. You want a better picture? Here it is, but you also are going to pay for 3D, whether or not you are actually going to use it. Same reason it's slathered on top of so many movies that don't really benefit from it. Higher ticket costs.
Alebrije
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Nope but I wish good sales to all companies , ist a nice add to videogames but still expensive for a lot of peole.
Not all can afford current sets including the cheapest PSVR, but if the thechnology finds a way in the market surely will be cheaper by 2019-2020
But for the people that can afford I think is great, even the PSVR games look fine and got impressed by developers support on Sony's conference
Not all can afford current sets including the cheapest PSVR, but if the thechnology finds a way in the market surely will be cheaper by 2019-2020
But for the people that can afford I think is great, even the PSVR games look fine and got impressed by developers support on Sony's conference
Preordered the PSVR because it's the only one I can realistically afford (in europe the Vive and Oculus prices are ridiculous).
But if any PC solution comes at a good price I might consider canceling the PSVR for it. I want to create my own stuff for it and I don't fancy being limited to a closed ecosystem for too long. I'm watching closely how the Razer OSVR is evolving, it might eventually become a good alternative at the 350€ price-point.
Otherwise I'll just wait for the 2nd PCVR generation to upgrade.
But if any PC solution comes at a good price I might consider canceling the PSVR for it. I want to create my own stuff for it and I don't fancy being limited to a closed ecosystem for too long. I'm watching closely how the Razer OSVR is evolving, it might eventually become a good alternative at the 350€ price-point.
Otherwise I'll just wait for the 2nd PCVR generation to upgrade.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yes, I realize the 3D price thing. Sadly it does make for a better 2D picture.
And I do want to believe in VR, because from when I tried it in the 90's, to the solutions we have now... I always wanted an affordable home version, and it looks to be we are getting that. So don't piss in my Cheerios, lol.
I will not be getting into VR in the near future. I have neither a PS4 nor an optimal PC (although I do intend to upgrade components soon) for a VR device and beyond that I have little interest in the technology.
Maybe something will convince me it is "must have," but I'm assuming that'll be a generation or so removed if it happens.
Maybe something will convince me it is "must have," but I'm assuming that'll be a generation or so removed if it happens.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Nope. Zero interest.
Shin Johnpv
Member
Nope, even at 400 bucks the PSVR is still too expensive. Plus none of them are universal right? It's ridiculous, it'd be like having to buy a separate tv for each device. I'll be interested when there's a universal headset at like 200.
poodaddy
Member
This here, save for horror games, but I'm still not sold on the premise in general yet. If I ever get to try one out at some point perhaps I'll change my tune; it does look interesting to say the least, but as I said I'm only interested in the horror game aspect of it.
GillianSeed79
Member
Hoping to get PSVR at launch and one of the PC headsets but won't have a VR capable rig until early next year. I'll wait for consensus on whether to get the Vive or Occulus.
superNESjoe
Member
I feel like any answer other than "Let's wait and see" is premature at this point. I'm going to get a PSVR at launch, but I can't say I'm sold on it when I've not used it or played it's first wave of software in my home. Yes, we know the major players, yes some of us have had experience using VR, but we don't have all three available at retail for the general consumer and we don't have even the first major wave of software built specifically for VR.
When they're out, and we've all used it in our homes and have seen how it works in reality opposed to in theory, then this will be a much more interesting discussion.
When they're out, and we've all used it in our homes and have seen how it works in reality opposed to in theory, then this will be a much more interesting discussion.
I'll let you buy the 2nd one so I can buy the 3rd even cheaper and betterest version.
KatamariOnTheRocks
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Back in the 90s i was excited about VR
Now... not quite. Too expensive, im not digging the videos they showed until now
I'm not at all suggesting that this is a feasible option for your average consumer, but I'm getting an Omnidirectional treadmill for movement in VR.
Here's a quick video showing how it works with shoehorned functionality.
Imagine how cool it would be with a game designed from the ground up for it.
Virtuix Omni - Grand Theft Auto V: http://youtu.be/QZEnjwUqc4M
(Just want to reiterate again that this is not what everyone with a headset is going to go out and buy, just wanted to show you what that 90's tech looks like today
)(Just want to reiterate again that this is not what everyone with a headset is going to go out and buy, just wanted to show you what that 90's tech looks like today
big plastic box on the head, check
big plastic gun, check
standing in a big plastic circle, check
looks pretty similar to me
As a hopeful VR developer, absolutely. But for a typical consumer I imagine that first-generation VR will be embraced mostly by enthusiasts or those with funds to spare.
In terms of content, I also understand waiting for the library of available games to expand. That's how Gear VR started out last year, and even though not much time has passed, the amount of worthwhile content is increasing rapidly.
In terms of content, I also understand waiting for the library of available games to expand. That's how Gear VR started out last year, and even though not much time has passed, the amount of worthwhile content is increasing rapidly.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
And I'm sure it works exactly the same.
Just like all modern VR headsets are 100% identical to Virtual Boy because technology never advances.
Thanks for showing your stupidity so people know not to take anything you say in the future seriously.
mugurumakensei
Member
Vive or Rift or Both whenever I can order on Amazon.
Jimmy Rustle
Banned
Not if they continue to show a plethora of gimmicky cartoony minigames that the PSVR folks have been demoing. Even RIGS looks like I'd get tired of fast. The "great" price of $399 would all of the sudden seem like a huge waste to me if they continue this trend.
Need some substance, good story, decent graphics (not asking for something photo-realistic that would only run on a 980ti).
I'd pay top dollar for the top of the line headset and a high end Pascal/Polaris card for something like....Alan Wake 2 VR in first person....would be incredible, a true VR experience.
Need some substance, good story, decent graphics (not asking for something photo-realistic that would only run on a 980ti).
I'd pay top dollar for the top of the line headset and a high end Pascal/Polaris card for something like....Alan Wake 2 VR in first person....would be incredible, a true VR experience.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Still gonna pass on this.
When SAO/.hack is real, that's probably the point where I jump in.
When SAO/.hack is real, that's probably the point where I jump in.
i see this is a very sensitive issue for you, sorry if i got your blood pressure up
foolishoptimist
Member
Got to try DK2. Even with the screen door, and lack of motion controls I could get a sense of presence. I'm totally sold on VR being a big part of the future of gaming.
PC isn't good enough.
But I have PS4 as well as all the other gear, so I've pre-ordered PSVR. Sad that I have to wait til October though.
PC isn't good enough.
But I have PS4 as well as all the other gear, so I've pre-ordered PSVR. Sad that I have to wait til October though.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
What more can they do to improve than make the headset, gun and treadmill smaller and more efficient, which they have?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
There's a fundamental disagreement between VR and me so I doubt much could sell me on it in the first place.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Are you making a serious comparison, or are just being deliberately obtuse?
marvelharvey
Member
When first announced: "Hell yes!"
Now: Too few pixels. I'll wait for a generation or two I think.
Now: Too few pixels. I'll wait for a generation or two I think.