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Now that all the major players are known, are you sold on VR for this generation?
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I'm in day one on PSVR. As long as it equals DK2 I'll be happy for my $549 AUD purchase.
FUCKEN VR MAN!!! ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!!
I'm 43 this year, and I've dreamed about this since reading Neuromancer when I was a teenager. To say I'm excited at the prospect is an understatement.
FUCKEN VR MAN!!! ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!!
I'm 43 this year, and I've dreamed about this since reading Neuromancer when I was a teenager. To say I'm excited at the prospect is an understatement.
Darkly Tranquil
Banned
Not feeling it at all. I just don't see how it can be applicable to the kinds of games I like. I think that the technology will probably be successful, but I don't think it's something I'm interested in. I like my 144Hz monitor just fine.
brianmcdoogle
Member
I'm still not sold. After the fiasco that was the Kinect, and to a smaller respect the Wii, I don't trust these controlled demos to the press, nor do I really trust the overly enthusiastic and euphoric wailings of fans who desperately want VR to happen (and have wanted it to happen for decades). I'll hold off for a while until I can spend some significant time with it myself (outside of a demo or two) and to see how games shape up. If that takes a year, so be it.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Yes to this, it's very unfortunate but I feel we won't see any serious investment in those platforms by renowned developers because the market is too small, so we'll never get to explore huge worlds in VR or go on cool adventures...
crazygambit
Member
PSVR day 1.
I already have 2 moves.
I already have 2 moves.
I guess I am sold (PsVr in my case). 399 is ok, eben without camera. The only thing I need is good singleplayergame with enough content ((eve Valkyrie maybe, or was this an mp game?). Otherwise I will play rigs the first few weeks and show the Vr everybody I know. Not sure if I should try it out before I buy it (I am not good in making smart decisions)
Poodlestrike
Banned
Eh.
It's a very cool experience, but other than VR ports of existing titles (which, while very cool, I can't actually run on anything I own), I haven't really seen anything grab me.
Next gen I think the price of hardware in general will be down low enough for me to hope on, but for now? No.
And I'm a little worried that the inevitable rush of early shovelware will poison the well to a certain extent.
DecoReturns
Member
No. A controller is good enough for me. No virtual reality needed.
Hope everyone who's excited likes it and doesn't disappoint tho.
Hope everyone who's excited likes it and doesn't disappoint tho.
Is it way too expensive to catch on right away? Yes. I agree. Until the console + headset is <$600.. This will unfortunately be the case.
But, if Mario 64 cost $900 to play in 1996, it wouldn't make it any less a complete game changer. Once people experience "Presence" .. They will be convinced. That's not to say traditional gaming will go away.. but 2D gaming never went away either. Focus will shift, though. I give it 2 years.
Well, the headsets aren't even out yet .. by April 2017 there will be tons of great games.
big plastic box on the head, check
big plastic gun, check
standing in a big plastic circle, check
looks pretty similar to me
The plastic box in the Virtuality VR pod had a combined resolution of 552x372 refreshing at 30 hz. The headset weighed 1050g. The "Big Plastic Circle" in the virtuality pod is merely a magnetic ring that tracks the headset along two axis - X, and Z - with no regard to rotation, only pitch and yaw (2 IMUs), nor any Y axis (height) tracking. The magnetic ring was subject to interference by any metal objects around, including change in your pocket. The pod itself is not actually an omnidirectional treadmill, it's merely a magnetic ring designed to keep you in tracking range - you don't actually move in Virtuality games. The Virtuality Pod is 12' x 4' big. The entire unit weighs 286 pounds.
The computer running those demos were Amiga 3000's - running on 16 bit M68000 processors - the same processor as the Sega Genesis - running at 15 mhz - slightly faster than a Sega CD. They had absolutely no 3D hardware what so ever. An upgraded version of the Virtuality pod offered a 486 (not DX) PC, but was too cost prohibitive. It had 2 mb of ram.
The entire pod cost $65,000.
The game being played looked like this:
This is my Virtual Reality kit:
It's an Oculus Rift DK2, a Virtuix Omni, and my PC.
A single eye in the already extremely out of date Oculus Rift DK2 has an effective resolution of 640×800, refreshing at 75 hz. Meaning each eye has twice the resolution and refreshes more than twice as fast as the entirety of the virtuality headset. The headset weighs 440g, less than half the weight of the Virtuality headset.
The DK2 is tracked using outside-in positional tracking of imbedded IR LEDs at 60 hz, plus 3 IMUs inside the headset tracking yaw, pitch, and rotation. Through sensor fusion from the 1000hz IMUs and 60hz outside-in positional tracking, the headset tracks position in X, Y, and Z.
The pod itself is not merely a stand, it is an Omnidirectional treadmill. It is modeled with a curve that matches the walking gait of a 6' tall person, tracking each foot independently with an IMU polling at 1000 hz. Additionally, the ring uses magnetic induction with a weak magnetic field on the attached harness to discern body orientation, tracking separately from feet and head. The Virtuix Omni is 4.5' x 4.5' big. The entire unit weighs 90 pounds, almost 1/3 the weight of the virtuality pod.
The computer running this VR demo has an i7-4970k. Each individual core is at 4 ghz - each core is 250 times faster than the CPU of the Amiga 3000, and there are 4 cores capable of running 8 threads total. It is packing a GTX 980 sc. My video card alone is hundreds of times faster than the entirety of the 486. My PC has 16 gb of ram - 8000 times more memory.
My entire set up - Rift, Treadmill, and PC - could be had today for about $2500 total.
The game being played looked like this:
tl;dr: Atari 2600? Basically the same thing as a Playstation 4, right? Huurrrrrrrr
Darkly Tranquil
Banned
I like just sitting on a chair with an image in front of me, and I don't want to wear a set of goggles that restrict my exterior field of view. No hate on people who are keen on it, it's just not appealing to me.
the highest end headset - the HTC vive - does not restrict your view of the real world:
Your hand is always on a button that can call up the real world at any moment, or you have have the real world blend into VR as you approach objects if you wish.
Plenty of VR games take place on chairs.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I'll be buying a Vive once I can get a Pascal card.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
I'm interested, but waiting at least a year or two for the bugs to get ironed out and perhaps prices to drop a bit.
Not to mention more released games.
Not to mention more released games.
StrategyFan
Member
waiting to see how 3d vision will work with the hmds
i don't care about many of the built-for-VR games. i'd rather just add immersion to any 3D game of my choosing
i don't care about many of the built-for-VR games. i'd rather just add immersion to any 3D game of my choosing
It works with many of the VR cinema applications, like VirtualDesktop for example. Both for movies and games. It treats all 3D content as though it was SBS 3D on the projected virtual screen.
Complicated
Banned
Haven't seen anything that I'd want to play on VR yet, and I can't imagine how the games I like would translate. So far the non-game applications of VR/AR are so much more compelling and interesting.
sono
Member
Is this joke post?, 3D TV has died (again)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...its-Premier-League-matches-from-schedule.html
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/12/4422874/espn-3d-to-shut-down-by-end-of-2013
http://www.iol.co.za/scitech/technology/software/why-3d-tv-is-such-a-turn-off-1755980#.VFN9jPmUejd
http://netguide.co.nz/news/is-3d-deadagain/192995/
The Lone Courier
Member
I never had an interest for VR so I'm holding off. Comes off as a gimmick.
Gtagentleman
Member
Currently only have a google cardboard, will probably get a PSVR at launch.
All this time I was thinking that VR was a gimmick but hey, its 3am and Im watching Kung Fury on a full virtual cinema using a cardboard box and a phone. (Cmoar VR Cinema app)
The future is now, cant wait to try "real" VR.
All this time I was thinking that VR was a gimmick but hey, its 3am and Im watching Kung Fury on a full virtual cinema using a cardboard box and a phone. (Cmoar VR Cinema app)
The future is now, cant wait to try "real" VR.
3D as in three axis graphics, not stereoscopy.
TatteredHat
Member
Not at all, but who knows what will happen in the future.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
I would need a killer app.
PSVR for bethesda games and such would get me in. Sucks that I'd have to buy a playstation camera for it, but I could stomach it.
PSVR for bethesda games and such would get me in. Sucks that I'd have to buy a playstation camera for it, but I could stomach it.
poodaddy
Member
I voted not currently but I gotta say I'm surprised by the results of the pole to be honest. The VR hype is so huge on this site that I thought I was sure to be in the minority; interesting to see that the majority of gaffers aren't interested. Is it just an extremely vocal minority that's constantly trumpeting the virtues of VR then?
JHoNNy1OoO
Member
100% for PSVR since they priced it right for me for a first gen experience. I'll shell out for the more expensive headsets eventually if I end up really loving the VR experience.
Caayn
Member
No. For me the price of entry is too high. I get that the headsets are expensive to create and manufacture, but that doesn't mean that I'm willing to drop 500 plus on VR. With the current downsides it has: SDE, bunch of cables.
I'm also not keen on rebuilding the house just to create a VR playspace. So much wasted space in my eyes.
Maybe I'll jump in when the second or third generation of VR headsets releases. I'll skip the first one.
I'm also not keen on rebuilding the house just to create a VR playspace. So much wasted space in my eyes.
Maybe I'll jump in when the second or third generation of VR headsets releases. I'll skip the first one.
No interest in console VR whatsoever, though I'd be interested in how PSVR retail compares to Rift DK2 (my only point of reference for VR headsets). I imagine it will be rather similar with dialed back graphics for the experiences. While I enjoyed the time with my DK2, I really want something better in terms of screen quality and resolution-per-eye.
On the other hand, I can't justify spending 1000€ on the Vive. I'm totally sold on their room scale approach and would have the space to set it up properly as well but again, the price. Guess I'll have to skip this first generation
Really hope somebody in the area picks one up and decides to demo it, would love to try it.
On the other hand, I can't justify spending 1000€ on the Vive. I'm totally sold on their room scale approach and would have the space to set it up properly as well but again, the price. Guess I'll have to skip this first generation
Really hope somebody in the area picks one up and decides to demo it, would love to try it.
BluePigGanon
Member
No not personally. I get motion sick, so that's a hesitation. I don't love the idea of wearing a headset (especially with glasses) - not just having to wear it, but also the isolation of it, not being able to easily check my phone/see what that noise was/see what the cat is doing. And the cost, while probably fair, is way more than I want to spend on an add-on.
Melon Bread
Neo Member
A man after my own heart!