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Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.
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StarStabbedMoon
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the very concept of backwards compatibility is as dead as the Wii U
There's a sonic game too I believe.
And wasn't there a super deformed DBZ game?
DBZ Fusion?
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice, yes.
If anything the 2nd rumor from a reddit verified source is more specific and believable sounding, even if it does contradict the WSJ to some extent.
The dev working on an RPG for nx.
No the GUI in the SDK and toolkit has lots of red apparently.
Its dubious. Why would Nintendo send out (as per the WSJ report that he is doubting) Cafe SDKs with NX references? This seems like a nonsensical thing to do for hardware that would, ostensibly, have nothing to do with the Cafe SDK. Also someone correct me if I am wrong but why would they need to send out an SDK that is already in the hands of developers, can they not just update their SDK with the new references?
Also the continually mounting evidence of BGE2, would suggest dev kits have to be in the wild. You aren't producing a game for a hardware spec you don't know about with an SDK for a different system.
FreedomFighter
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Just so 3rd party devs are happy and GAF techophiles are happy. I feel like Nintendo needs to put out a more capable box than the competition this go-round. But I would personally be happy with PS4 comparable tech.
I'd personally be very happy if it had Wii U backwards compatibility.
The main advantage of PS4 parity is to at least get some semblance of developer support- DICE went out of their way to point out the Wii U's CPU was not well suited for Frostbite 2 or future iterations of Frostbite essentially locking it out of any piece of software after ME3. Whether or not it's the fastest or as fast as the PS4K is irrelevant I think- people that are actual technophiles are playing on PC.
Mysterious
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To be fair, Wii U wouldn't have made any business sense for EA after ME3. Frostbite and probably Ignite weren't really designed for that kind of hardware. I'd imagine the same is true of AnvilNext, Snowdrop, and UE4. Granted, it still theoretically could have received more last get ports, but it was too little too late.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding...
This is Android's SDK:
LMAO, this was the exact image I was going to use.
It's not fun to talk and I leaked details on the cpu twice, cube/wii. People don't want to listen to truth and worse yet harp on useless points that don't help nintendo historically.
1. Nintendo needs a real unified sdk, period, If they can't do what Sony/MS is doing in terms of an easy to work arechitecture with and good tools they really can get the hell out of the industry. Not being nice anymore grow up or get the hell out at this point. Even AMD has contributed to this discussion if we are talk about api or sdks.
2. A respectable online store and online platform, if it's still behind PSN,XBL or Steam it's fucking joke and everyone involved with the process should be fired. The company is just leaving money on the table and keep consumers away who have unaminously agreed on how online gaming and stores should be. If the UI or features suck again people should be fired and if the CEO is in the way again the dicussion of this company is to put someone at helm who can needs to happen.
3. The power should be there. There is no cost argument to them not having anything respectable when it comes to ram, cpu or gpu power. It is almost 3 years out from launch of X1/PS4.and the power gap between them and even mid range pc can't be anymore clear, especially with certain DX12 game showing the API and ones like it are the future in heavy intense scenes or adding more complexity. Yet so far I'm saying this and I've asked my same source as I've done for 3 gens now, it's barely enough they can do more. I say this having OC'ed various amd and intel cpus getting them at less than 180$ a few years back, both my 3570 and 8350 are now becoming sluggish. Putting in a cheap ass cpu does no good and if the company hope to do any BC right this is a requirement as well. Other devs can't say it so I fucking will go home nintendo. It's servicable at best and I know it for a fact this system is another good mid range pc if we had to compare to something not even a high end mid range pc. If this thing cost more than 350$ it joke but it's nintendo so I know 400$ price tag will have certain people eating it up. Problem is this is what the damn WiiU should've been all along. Don't worry only a few more weeks before the truth is out but I'm shitting on nintendo now, not when they want to control this.
They aren't there on any of my points I'd rather use uplay than any nintendo online platform. EA is origin is miles better as steamshits on origin to me. Get someone who knows what they are doing on tech and good software aspects for non related game aspects this company is garbage and needs fresh blood with some skill and vision.
Drilbit777
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It would pretty huge if Nintendo Get x86 since that would mean it could get easy ports. Hopefully this means that KH3 and FFXV are a possibility on NX
Me too, but realistically speaking there was no point in supporting a new system that was incompatible with the engine they were using for all future titles moving forward.
https://m.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/c...oper_working_on_an_rpg_for_the_nx_ask/d1kuwieSDKs have GUI? Wat
An SDK is a collection of functions and methods (and other tools) that help developers write code.
This is Android's SDK being used:
Wandering Robot
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That's how they get you: post something reasonable and it's gotta be true!
Looked nice in the other thread. I imagine they'll say something once they have their investors' meeting, no? I'll wait until then before believing anything just yet, including the "reasonable" stuff posted online.
Looked nice in the other thread. I imagine they'll say something once they have their investors' meeting, no? I'll wait until then before believing anything just yet, including the "reasonable" stuff posted online.
If not then, E3. Still too far away
Mysterious
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The amount of technological nonsense in this thread is unbelievable lmao.
So I was working away on the NX SDK writing my RPG game, and then I got a webcam notification on the SDK from Kimishima himself! He called me to tell me that the next console will be called Nintendo Xperience, will be priced at $399, and will run on Microsoft's ARM tool-chain powered by Google Cloud Platform! All of their networks will be run on Amazon Web Services and will be written in C++!!! Also Intel is developing a new 694930 MHz dye for the NX's chipset so that it'll run 100x faster than Wii U. And the NVidia GPU is a 10 GB ROM and 8 GB DDR5 RAM hybrid, so it'll have absolutely beautiful graphics. Also all marketing is in red because the GUI is red.
So I was working away on the NX SDK writing my RPG game, and then I got a webcam notification on the SDK from Kimishima himself! He called me to tell me that the next console will be called Nintendo Xperience, will be priced at $399, and will run on Microsoft's ARM tool-chain powered by Google Cloud Platform! All of their networks will be run on Amazon Web Services and will be written in C++!!! Also Intel is developing a new 694930 MHz dye for the NX's chipset so that it'll run 100x faster than Wii U. And the NVidia GPU is a 10 GB ROM and 8 GB DDR5 RAM hybrid, so it'll have absolutely beautiful graphics. Also all marketing is in red because the GUI is red.
You expect Nintendo to launch a $400-$600 console?
Vulcano's assistant
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i don't care about current gen ports, but boy do I care about Nintendo games looking on a similar ballpark.
Mysterious
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LizardKing
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Uh oh. Man so many conflicting rumors.
That would require talent and experience, they have the talent but spent the last 2 gens dicking around so it's still gonna be a while. Unless they bring in the talent with experience which I'm not seeing not happening this is just unrealistic.
Sorry I'm being brutal it's monday work sucks and after spending time to talk to friend about this or valve, both companies are quickly earning my disdain.
If you're not elaboratng neither will I.
FreedomFighter
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Fair enough.
We're expecting PS4k to be that much? $400 I can see. But upward to $600 though?
Astral Dog
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Sounds ok
One has literally nothing to do with the other. You can have different architecture CPU's that are numerous times more powerful, and you can have X86 CPU's that are numerous times less powerful. It basically means, if true, that 3rd party devs will have an easier time porting from one console to the other.
Pokemaniac
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SDKs have GUI? Wat
An SDK is a collection of functions and methods (and other tools) that help developers write code.
This is Android's SDK:
This is Android's SDK being used:
An SDK often has some sort of GUI. It is often limited to things like a download manager and similar, but there's probably one somewhere.
*sigh* This x86 == easy portability myth needs to die.
If an emulator was provided, it would show up there. Also, I'm not sure if that one specified hardware dev kit or SDK.
Astral Dog
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$400 for Nintendo would be suicide
well, you compile your stuff and let a devkit run it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBEuFQ0HFM
But yeah, that has very little to do with the SDK itself, those are just libraries and some interfaces etc.
Damn. So is this what you're actually hearing?
While you're not wrong, the least you could do is post recent images of Android being devved against:SDKs have GUI? Wat
An SDK is a collection of functions and methods (and other tools) that help developers write code.
This is Android's SDK:
This is Android's SDK being used:
Nobody has a "UI" for the SDK, but there are definitely gonna be UIs for the devtools.
CountAntonius
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Rocket League with even more crossplay now!
Mysterious
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You posted Android Studio, an IDE. Android Studio wasn't originally even included in the Android SDK. You usually download an IDE+SDK, but I highly doubt Nintendo has their own IDE. Even Android used IntelliJ for quite some time.
Sony's SDK is usually used with VisualStudio. Want to post that as well?
Fair enough, also, depends on the tools you are allowed (or supposed to) use. For example, Sony's PS4 SDK works well with MS's Visual Studio and comes with some additional plugins/extra software that have some styling; it wouldnt suprise me if Nintendo will go down that route as well. But I find it hard to believe that Nintendo will provide a full IDE themselves, Nintendo-flavoured and all.
Gaiaknight
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just like with the fake controller leak i refuse to believe anything till nintendo says its true but its nice to speculate.
This. Reposting.
Shitty cpu is all I'm telling since that's all I tend to get the skinny on. The rest was typical hearsay that's been rolling around. I think nintendo could do better on ram and cpu the system would be golden. When it comes to the hardware I'm vouching for it.
The rest like sdk and online is hearsay considering some could have better versions than others. I think it's lacking, have said as much on nintendo platforms before and not a single source people publically have access too or myself can get a clear picture. That alone is a red flag and it should be called out. Whether it's the performance or the UI of online nintendo it's still not good. No one hides anything good, there's little reason too unless you're nintendo.
MS took it on the chin for all the BS of X1 its time people with far more precise knowledge start shitting on nintendo in my opinion, but they can't cause NDAs. This company secrecy gambit shit has run out my paitence considering it's backfired for 4 gens. Hide games history has been clear on gimmicks they do little to help out in the long run. This one area not rumoring it and after the controller thread I figure I will do something real to steer the discussion where it should go. That's a real point to harp on nintendo with and guess what anyone asking to verify what I mentioned won't get a single straight answer from nintendo cause they know it's fact.
runnin_blue
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Wow. Garbage? That seems really harsh. Nintendo still make some of the best games in the gaming industry. Hardly garbage. Most of us want an uber powerful Nintendo console, but jeez.
Pokemaniac
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The point is that some of the individual tools probably have UIs.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Wii U backwards compatibility isn't a huge deal for me because I'm keeping my Wii U one way or another--it's the best way to play Wii games.
Unless Nintendo manages to roll in both Wii U and Wii backwards compatibility by some miracle.
Unless Nintendo manages to roll in both Wii U and Wii backwards compatibility by some miracle.
Bolivar687
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Brutal honest truth
Mysterious
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The point is that the SDK itself has no GUI. You use someone else's tool (e.g. Microsoft's Visual Studio) with the SDK.
PlayStation 4's SDK works with Visual Studio. Visual Studio is Microsoft branded. Should I have to harp that PS4 is going to be MS branded?
Pokemaniac
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I mean, there's bound to be download managers and debuggers which have their own UIs.
Of course, this whole tangent is ignoring that the original quote was actually referring to the OS.
Mysterious
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Nintendo will probably use a third party debugger tool, not write their own.
This also doesn't seem very red to me.
The original quote was a bullshit Reddit post. Shall I go make a Reddit post claiming that the OS is blue?
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