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[Hatty]

I wonder how much this will end up costing
I wouldn't be surprised with a $350 price point

 

[diaspora]

I cannot stress enough how bullshit the idea of back porting Android features to a previous version of the OS is.

 

[10k]

The android rumor debunked by Nintendo always irked me because they never comment on rumor or speculation but made an exception for that one. Just like they denied the 3DS XL from that Nikkei report and then two months later it launched, or denying Wii U production was ending but then saying it would be produced at least until the end of the quarter lol.

I cannot stress enough how bullshit the idea of back porting Android features to a previous version of the OS is.

I believe you. Just trying to start a discussion. Another bs poster I guess.

 

[Captain Europe]

The company that fired Alison Rapp is not going to turn Link into a woman. The company that said Peach's skirt is too hard to program for NSMBWii is not going to turn Link into a woman.

This was an obvious joke, Peach was in plenty of Wii games.

 

[BuggyMike]

Can anyone point me into the direction of Thraktor's posts where he estimates the best candidates for the NX hardware?

 

[oatmeal]

What is x86 and what does the ps4 and bone run?

 

[10k]

What is x86 and what does the ps4 and bone run?

They both run x86_64 architectures from AMD.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#AMD64

 

[diaspora]

This was an obvious joke, Peach was in plenty of Wii games.

The android rumor debunked by Nintendo always irked me because they never comment on rumor or speculation but made an exception for that one. Just like they denied the 3DS XL from that Nikkei report and then two months later it launched, or denying Wii U production was ending but then saying it would be produced at least until the end of the quarter lol.


I believe you. Just trying to start a discussion. Another bs poster I guess.

I know, its just that I'm doing some Android development and the idea of it is blowing NY mind.

 

[Nanashrew]

What is x86 and what does the ps4 and bone run?

x86 is a catch all for the architecture x86 or x86_64, also more commonly known as 32-bit and 64-bit.

PS4 and Xbox One used the same CPU, AMD Jaguar and use x86_64 architecture

I personally still don't believe the reddit rumor as it could lock Nintendo into that line of processors when they could go with the Cortex-A72 ARM processor which exceeds the Jaguars by a good margin and allows both their handheld and home console to be on the same architecture.

 

[Nostremitus]

Naw! That would be everything but fair, since it isn't from an actual product available for purchase. It's not different than EA, Guerrilla, Ubi or Gearbox showing in game footage from an unreleased project. I'll gladly change my stance once they have a consumer product.

I understand where you're coming from, but whether or not it's a consumer product doesn't matter if it's actually running on the console. Or are you insinuating they ran that on an enthusiast level PC like some of those other devs tend to when showing off games?

 

[Hero of Legend]

Huh, look at this, Monolith (western) has a QA job post, and it says:

https://careers.timewarner.com/tgwebhost/jobdetails.aspx?partnerid=391&siteid=36&jobid=752955

Knowledge of certification standards for Microsoft (TCR compliance), Sony (TRC compliance), or Nintendo (Lot Check).

This was found by Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4dtwz9/monolith_productions_is_possibly_making_a_game/

Now only two possibilities here; they're working on NX, or they're happy with Nintendo lot check experience so that the person can just move on to Sony and MS stuff easily. Likely the latter, but you never know.

 

[wonderful103]

I understand where you're coming from, but whether or not it's a consumer product doesn't matter if it's actually running on the console. Or are you insinuating they ran that on an enthusiast level PC like some of those other devs tend to when showing off games?

There have been quite a few sham shows in regards to many first and third party developers showing high end pcs running their games while claiming console footage, either directly or through various smoke screens (such as ps4 controller prompts and even fake menus in some cases). This was especially egregious at reveal events, but continues on big events and reveals like e3 even today.

 

[10k]

Huh, look at this, Monolith (western) has a QA job post, and it says:

https://careers.timewarner.com/tgwebhost/jobdetails.aspx?partnerid=391&siteid=36&jobid=752955



This was found by Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4dtwz9/monolith_productions_is_possibly_making_a_game/

Now only two possibilities here; they're working on NX, or they're happy with Nintendo lot check experience so that the person can just move on to Sony and MS stuff easily. Likely the latter, but you never know.

It's likely the latter which is wet I didn't link it lol.

So, any chance the NX having both x86 and ARM is Possible? The ARM part perhaps being the handheld built into the console unit?

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Huh, look at this, Monolith (western) has a QA job post, and it says:

https://careers.timewarner.com/tgwebhost/jobdetails.aspx?partnerid=391&siteid=36&jobid=752955



This was found by Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4dtwz9/monolith_productions_is_possibly_making_a_game/

Now only two possibilities here; they're working on NX, or they're happy with Nintendo lot check experience so that the person can just move on to Sony and MS stuff easily. Likely the latter, but you never know.

The latter sounds more likely.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Gender in games is a hotter topic than race in games, yes. White straight men have a vested interest in women. Mothers, daughters, wives, would-be lovers, etc. It makes closing those gaps more of an immediate interest than gaps with racial minorities, yes.

Idk. If it goes femlink half of me wants just one link that is female for the game and half of me would want a character creator with at least skin tone options as well as sex.

Its whatever to me. I just find it ignorant people always ask for gender options but when you say something about race, or disabilities or whatever people go mute and zip their mouths.

 

[blu]

It's likely the latter which is wet I didn't link it lol.

So, any chance the NX having both x86 and ARM is Possible? The ARM part perhaps being the handheld built into the console unit?

Come on, people. Stop falling for that.

 

[Retromelon]

Honestly Nintendo are hateful against any group they don't allow you to play as in Zelda. They should just make Link a creatable character to avoid offending any groups. My Link would be a disabled, Hispanic, transgendered vegan Women. The nerve of them forcing us to play as a boy, it's clearly a plot to be keep dem wimins down. Every single iconic character in any medium should have a female alternative with her own TV series, book and video game.



No please no more! :'(

You know, link has been a teenager, a ten year old, a wolf and even had pink hair once, but having a female or hispanic incarnation would just be too much. You're right.

 

[MoonFrog]

Its whatever to me. I just find it ignorant people always ask for gender options but when you say something about race, or disabilities or whatever people go mute and zip their mouths.

Yep. It is an awkward silence.

Idk I'm not sold on "every game needs a character creator." I like iconic art for my main characters. That's actually the point on which I pivot between, in the case of femlink, having a character creation and not. But if there is and it's just male and female...idk if it's supposed to make a statement like people want--wtf?! Should be at least some more basic options.

 

[hemo memo]

Can anyone point me into the direction of Thraktor's posts where he estimates the best candidates for the NX hardware?

I don't know how anybody would expect an NX home console released this year to have any more than 30% or so more CPU performance than PS4/XBO, let alone getting anywhere near a 125W desktop CPU.

Let's run through the different options Nintendo have open to them for a CPU for a home console releasing this year:

- x86 ISA -

Advantages:
- Large ecosystem of software, compilers, etc., etc.
- Several options which hit performance required for home console

Disadvantages:
- Only two vendors. If they want to create an NX successor with binary BC then Intel and AMD are their only options (unless VIA suddenly starts competing on performance)
- No options which hit energy efficiency required for handheld, which means using two different ISAs for the two devices, which means added cost in tools/OS/etc. development
- No binary-level BC with Wii U

Intel x86 cores:

Advantages:
- Higher end cores hit performance required for home console

Disadvantages:
- Likely more expensive than any other option
- No options which hit energy efficiency required for handheld

Synthesizable: No
Can be fabbed on-die with the GPU: No (unless they're crazy enough to use Intel IGP for a game console)

Broadwell, Skylake, etc.

Advantages:
- Probably the highest per-thread performance within a console CPU TDP
- Could be fabbed on 14nm for a 2016 launch

Disadvantages:
- Expensive
- Large die area
- See general Intel and x86 disadvantages above

Airmont (Atom)

Advantages:
- Small die area
- Low power consumption

Disadvantages:
- Lower performance per clock than either Puma or A72

AMD x86 cores:

Advantages:
- Plausible cores at least match performance required for home console (as they're already used in PS4/XBO)
- Should be cheaper than comparable Intel cores
- Nintendo have a longstanding relationship with AMD

Disadvantages:
- No options which hit energy efficiency required for handheld

Synthesizable: No
Can be fabbed on-die with the GPU: Yes (but only AMD GPUs)

Puma

Advantages:
- Would slightly outperform Jaguar cores used in PS4 and XBO
- AMD have ample expertise with Puma-based APUs
- Relatively small die area

Disadvantages:
- AMD aren't developing any x86 follow-ups to Puma, making the design of NX2 more difficult
- Likely lower performance than ARM A72 (which is one of the reasons AMD has dropped future development in favour of custom ARM cores)

Excavator

Advantages:
- Better performance per thread than Puma at high TDPs

Disadvantages:
- Power consumption required to get that performance is far, far beyond what's feasible in a console
- Large die area
- Even given the power consumption, performance per thread isn't that good

Zen

Advantages:
- Substantially better performance per thread than Puma
- Should provide high performance per thread even at console-level TDP

Disadvantages:
- Only available on 14nm, which means it's unlikely to be feasible for a 2016 console
- Probably a relatively large die area

- ARMv8 ISA -

Advantages:
- Large ecosystem of software, compilers, etc., etc.
- Several options which hit performance required for home console
- Several options which hit efficiency required for handheld
- Nintendo have a long history of ARM-based devices
- A large number of vendors developing binary-compatible cores across the performance spectrum

Disadvantages:
- Of the available cores, none quite hit the performance of high-end x86 or Power ISA cores
- No binary-level BC with Wii U

ARM in-house cores:

Advantages:
- Can be synthesised on-die with pretty much any GPU architecture
- Higher-end cores hit performance required for home console
- AMD have shown they're happy to work with reference ARM designs
- Relatively cheap
- Nintendo have already designed several SoCs with ARM's in-house cores

Disadvantages:
- No options which quite hit per-thread performance of Skylake/Zen

Synthesizable: Yes
Can be fabbed on-die with the GPU: Yes

A72

Advantages:
- Should moderately exceed performance of Jaguar on 28nm
- Relatively small die area
- See general ARM advantages above

Disadvantages:
- Not quite the per-thread performance of Skylake/Zen

A53

Advantages:
- Very energy efficient
- Tiny die area
- Could use exactly the same core on the handheld

Disadvantages:
- Doesn't have the per-thread performance necessary for a home console

AMD ARM cores:

K12

Advantages:
- Should exceed performance of Jaguar by a significant margin
- Nintendo have a longstanding relationship with AMD

Disadvantages:
- Won't be ready until 2017

Synthesizable: No
Can be fabbed on-die with the GPU: Yes (but only AMD GPUs)

Nvidia ARM cores:

Denver

Advantages:
- Probably exceeds the performance of Jaguar
- Could be integrated in a single die with Nvidia's GPU architecture

Disadvantages:
- Inconsistent benchmarks point to potential issues with dynamic recompilation to internal instruction set
- Nintendo may not have the best relationship with Nvidia, as the 3DS was apparently initially due to use a Tegra SoC, which was then dropped in favour of a custom chip with Pica graphics

Synthesizable: No
Can be fabbed on-die with the GPU: Yes (but only Nvidia GPUs)

Other ARM cores (Qualcomm, Samsung, etc.)

Advantages:
- Some offer performance exceeding ARM reference designs
- Some can be fabbed with synthesizable GPUs (eg Mali, PowerVR, etc.) on the same die

Disadvantages:
- Can't be fabbed on-die with AMD or Nvidia desktop-class GPUs

Synthesizable: No (in general)
Can be fabbed on-die with the GPU: Yes

- Power ISA -

Advantages:
- Nintendo have ample experience with Power ISA
- Could provide binary-level BC with Wii U
- Cores are available which hit performance required for home console (and then some!)

Disadvantages
- No options which hit energy efficiency required for handheld
- Only one vendor actively working on Power cores, and they're not exactly the kind of mid-range cores you'd use in a games console
- No options to fab on the same die as GPU

IBM Power cores:

Advantages:
- Nintendo have a long history of working with IBM
- IBM have been putting out chips on 22nm for a while now

Disadvantages:
- See general Power ISA disadvantages above

Synthesizable: No
Can be fabbed on-die with the GPU: No

POWER8

Advantages:
- Massively exceeds performance required for home console

Disadvantages:
- Enormous die area, far too large for a console CPU
- Very high TPD, far too high for a console CPU
- Lot of redundant functionality that's a waste for a console CPU

PowerPC A2

Advantages:
- Should hit performance levels required for a home console
- Relatively small die area
- Relatively power efficient (particularly on 22nm)
- Lots of floating point/SIMD performance

Disadvantages:
- Excessive floating point performance (game consoles don't need an exclusively 64-bit FP pipeline)
- Probably not that great in non-floating point tasks
- While it could technically provide BC with Wii U code, it's a very different architecture to Espresso, so unlikely to be able to run Wii U code at full speed

PowerPC 750

Advantages:
- Same architecture as used in Wii U, so easy and reliable BC
- Small die area
- Relatively energy efficient

Disadvantages:
- A 32-bit core, so system RAM would be limited to 4GB
- Doesn't hit performance levels of Jaguar
- No successors in development, so just pushing the can down the road

- MIPS ISA -

Advantages:
- Em, easier N64 BC perhaps?

Disadvantages:
- More than are worth going into here

Now, I could go further down along the list into obscure ISAs like RISC-V, but we've more than covered every realistic option open to Nintendo.

Based on the above, I think it's safe to rule out all Power ISA cores, as Wii U binary-compatibility can't be worth than much to Nintendo. I think we can also rule out Intel's offerings as well, both due to cost of the chips themselves, and the inability to fab on a single die with the GPU. Similarly I'd rule out all non-reference ARM cores, as they're the only ones which could be included on an SoC with an AMD GPU (which has to be by far the most likely GPU option). Then Excavator can be ruled out for heat and die area, the same reasons Sony and MS ruled out its predecessors, and 14nm is very unlikely to feasible this year, ruling out Zen.

So, we (or more accurately Nintendo) are basically reduced to two options: Puma or A72. Judging by single-core Geekbench 3 32 bit benchmarks (which are unfortunately all I have to work with for both, even enough it will be affected by things like memory configurations), Puma provides about 10% performance per clock boost over Jaguar, and should be able to clock a bit higher in the same thermal envelope (although it's hard to say by how much). At 2GHz, you could expect about a 25% boost over XBO's CPU, for the same number of cores.

The A72 hits 45% higher single-core Geekbench score per clock than Jaguar, and should clock a bit higher as well (they're hitting 1.8GHz in 28nm phone SoCs, so in a console environment we could assume 2GHz at least). A 2GHz 8 core A72 with two cores reserved for the OS would then give developers about 40% more to work with than they have on XBO. (Again this is just on the basis of this one benchmark).

If Nintendo want more performance than that (and given their history, I would be very surprised if they did), then more cores would be pretty much their only answer, although such a route isn't without its difficulties, as developers may struggle to adequately parallelise their code to make proper use of such a CPU.

.

 

[Mr Swine]

Any possibility that the NX platforms employ the new ASTC texture compression made by the Vulcan group (Khronos)?

An old article from 2012: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6134/...s-30-opengl-43-astc-texture-compression-clu/4

I think this would be good to shave of a few % of the bandwidth on the handheld and console if they use the new one and ditch the old and archaic S3TC texture compression that has been around since 1999

 

[BuggyMike]

You know, link has been a teenager, a ten year old, a wolf and even had pink hair once, but having a female or hispanic incarnation would just be too much. You're right.

Is that really what you got from my post? LOL wtf, man you should reach for the stars rather than straws. Where do I say having any of these characteristics would be "too much"? The gist of my post is if we're really going to shout for a female link for the sake of "diversity" why stop there? I mean if that's the reasoning behind a female link then hey we don't wanna exclude any other groups lest we offend people into thinking we're excluding them from the gaming community. If we're to take this stupid logic farther then why not have Link be a part of all these other groups (e.g Hispanic, female, transgendered)? It's dumb. I have no real problem with Link being of a certain race etc provided it was the creator's original vision, but fuck shoe-horning that shit in for some "diversity" agenda.

EDIT: Also Link has been different in different titles but to me he retains certain characteristics that make me still feel like he's Link but that's a whole other discussion and I don't want to go off topic any farther.

.

Dude you are the friggin' man my good sir!! Thanks a lot

 

[Pancake Mix]

Link is fine the way he is. He's an iconic avatar character and I think aside from a vocal few on the internet, most people like his character, and more people would be disappointed worldwide if he was changed than appeased. This has been a variation of his look since OoT in 1998 and it's been very well-received.

I hope he stays the same.

Back on topic: Thanks LC again for the info. With your track record everyone should be inclined to believe you and your source.

..can't say the same about some of the claims on Reddit.

 

[jonno394]

All these rumours don't make the e3 wait any easier, but tbh it has started me thinking about costs etc. Anyone started putting money aside for their purchase? I'll wait until the reveal but still start as soon as we know things!

I'm thinking £500 should be enough for me on launch day. £300 for the console (at most i hope) and 4 games at £50 a go.

 

[blu]

I don't know how anybody would expect an NX home console released this year to have any more than 30% or so more CPU performance than PS4/XBO, let alone getting anywhere near a 125W desktop CPU.

<snip>

Hey, that's a pretty good writeup on the available CPU options and I totally missed it. Gaffers should do good to read it. Props to Thraktor.

 

[Nanashrew]

I feel Thraktor's post should be in the OP. The OP needs a bit more info in general at least.

 

[Futaba]

I get a mighty strong feeling that these leakers are lurking on these forums looking at this thread for reactions to thier posts so they can follow up with more stuff to get more reactions.

The UE4 guy is definitely rehashing rumors nd ideas he's reading in this thread.

If that doesn't scream "doing it for the attention" I don't know what does.

 

[Nanashrew]

I get a mighty strong feeling that these leakers are lurking on these forums looking at this thread for reactions to thier posts so they can follow up with more stuff to get more reactions.

The UE4 guy is definitely rehashing rumors nd ideas he's reading in this thread.

If that doesn't scream "doing it for the attention" I don't know what does.

If there's anything I've learned from Ace Attorney this past week is that there's always a contradiction. And if they're lying and rehashing statements they're easily found out, especially once the pressure hits and they're desperate. Many have already slipped up by saying one single thing wrong.

That's why I also still have a lot of skepticism for the Reddit posts even in the OP.

 

[TLZ]

What does Link's gender have anything to do with Reddit NX leaks?

 

[Milly Osworth]

I have to say that the chances a 3D Mario gets revealed that looks better than the new Ratchet and Clank makes me very excited.

Come on E3!!!!!!!

 

[BuggyMike]

What does Link's gender have anything to do with Reddit NX leaks?

Nothing :'( we got off topic and I'm a part of the problem :'( :'( :'( Lets just read some more bullshit reddit rumors and move on. On the bright side I'm really enjoying Thrakotrs post.

 

[ReyVGM]

What does Link's gender have anything to do with Reddit NX leaks?

Nothing, just people opening a can of worms where no one wants to see worms.

 

[Hero of Legend]

I have to say that the chances a 3D Mario gets revealed that looks better than the new Ratchet and Clank makes me very excited.

Come on E3!!!!!!!

I'll be honest, after 3D World I'm not very optimistic. Ratchet PS4 is a VERY high bar.

Now if they made 3D Mario NX with the same scale that they're making Zelda U in, THAT has a lot of potential to indeed surpass Ratchet PS4.

 

[Diffense]

LOL, how has this thread become about how Link could also be a dog or cat or Zora?

Link isn't "obviously an avatar" since you've never been able to as much as change Link's hair color...only his name. The player has never been given tools to make Link resemble him/her. His design is iconic and pretty consistent with minor variations. Cross in Xenoblade X is an avatar and we can't say what his/her canonical appearance is. S/He doesn't have one. Link does. He's not a variable avatar just a character you can rename to personalize the dialogue a bit. People hoping for Nintendo to essentially destroy a well-known character like Link are not being realistic.

Anyway, I guess another NX "leak" has proven to be totally unreliable. It seems like we'll have to wait on Nintendo this time.

 

[Nanashrew]

I'll be honest, after 3D World I'm not very optimistic. Ratchet PS4 is a VERY high bar.

Now if they made 3D Mario NX with the same scale that they're making Zelda U in, THAT has a lot of potential to indeed surpass Ratchet PS4.

I don't think they'd do that to be honest. Mario series is known for its simple and clean look and style and don't go for incredibly dense places and stages.

Even if they made Galaxy 3 don't expect it to be on the level of Ratchet and Clank. It would be Mario Galaxy with some more spectacle, better effects and cleaner IQ.

 

[omonimo]

x86 is a catch all for the architecture x86 or x86_64, also more commonly known as 32-bit and 64-bit.

PS4 and Xbox One used the same CPU, AMD Jaguar and use x86_64 architecture

I personally still don't believe the reddit rumor as it could lock Nintendo into that line of processors when they could go with the Cortex-A72 ARM processor which exceeds the Jaguars by a good margin and allows both their handheld and home console to be on the same architecture.

You don't believe Nintendo could choice the cheaper solution for it's hardware? Personally I don't believe this hardware will be on par or slightly more powerful of the ps4 knowing the Nintendo philosophy and I can't believe every time Nintendo keeps something so secretly, people still presume the best possible specs when the past speak clearly for otherwise. I mean, I will be very happy if the hardware will be more powerful of the ps4 but they can realize easily an optimal hardware without exceed the Sony platform. I don't see them realize the best hardware possible but more to lean to the most cheaper solution with the optimal specs and I really doubt could overtake the ps4 if they want sell it at the lower price point possible.

 

[Nanashrew]

You don't believe Nintendo could choice the cheaper solution for it's hardware? Personally I don't believe this hardware will be on par or slightly more powerful of the ps4 knowing the Nintendo philosophy and I can't believe every time Nintendo keeps something so secretly, people still presume so higher specs when the past speak clearly. I mean, I will be very happy if the hardware will be more powerful of the ps4 but they center realize an optimal hardware without exceed the Sony platform. I don't see them realize the best hardware possible but more the most cheaper with optimal specs and I really doubt could overtake the ps4 if they prioritize the cheaper solution.

Well our only reliable source on the CPU is LCGeek and they also don't know the architecture. They did say it was better than the Xbox One and PS4 and noticeable.

There is really no other option. There is no in between for PS4 and Xbox One and even I expect parity. They cannot go weaker because there's no room to go weaker and more newer tech has matured and gotten cheaper in these last 3 years. Anything can beat those crappy Jaguars.

 

[omonimo]

Well our only reliable source on the CPU is LCGeek and they also don't know the architecture. They did say it was better than the Xbox One and PS4 and noticeable.

There is really no other option. There is no in between for PS4 and Xbox One and even I expect parity. They cannot go weaker because there's no room to go weaker and more newer tech has matured and gotten cheaper in these last 3 years. Anything can beat those crappy Jaguars.

Yeah I remember tons of reliable rumour before the Wii U announce. I could wrong but it's not ended how a lot of people presume at the time. We don't even know what exactly will be this NX platform and yet the common though seems the best scenario possible. Honestly I don't think NX will be a normal platform. I more inclined to think it will be a sort of tablet (3DS it's gone) and hardly a tablet could overtake the actual console. Of course maybe CPU could be even better but gpu? By the way, I wait to see what this platform exactly should be, because for now there is too much optimistic presumption in the air.

 

[BuggyMike]

Yeah I remember tons of reliable rumour before the Wii U announce. We don't even know what exactly will be this NX platform and yet people presume it will be a standard platform. Honestly I don't think NX will be a normal platform. I more inclined to think it will be a sort of tablet (3DS it's gone) and hardly a tablet could overtake the actual console. Of course CPU could be even better but gpu? I wait to see what this platform should be, because for now I'm very skeptical to the standard console scenario and I'm very cynic to the real final specs of this thing.

It's already been called a home console a few times, once by Reggie himself at e3. Nintendo announced the NX early to assure people that they are still passionate and serious about video game hardware after announcing their mobile games, I fail to see how a tablet console as their main platform would be at all assuring to gamers and devs.

 

[Boy Wander]

I thought Emily's twitter deactivated.

Haven't seen her online in forever.

She has a habit of making a big song and dance and then reappearing under a different twitter handle. Second time it's happened in the past few years.

 

[Nanashrew]

Yeah I remember tons of reliable rumour before the Wii U announce. We don't even know what exactly will be this NX platform and yet people presume it will be a standard platform. Honestly I don't think NX will be a normal platform. I more inclined to think it will be a sort of tablet (3DS it's gone) and hardly a tablet could overtake the actual console. Of course CPU could be even better but gpu? I wait to see what this platform should be, because for now I'm very skeptical to the standard console scenario and I'm very cynic to the real final specs of this thing.

Well keep in mind that LCGeek has leaked the Gamecube CPU, the Wii CPU and the Wii U CPU and was correct all those times and made a direct comparison with NX and the other 2 home systems. They have far better credentials than any redditor.

I don't know where they'll land with GPU or RAM, but I'm still expecting parity because there's no room to go weaker in a generational leap. the Wii U has been on the market for almost 4 years now and the parts for a better system is cheap now.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I cannot stress enough how bullshit the idea of back porting Android features to a previous version of the OS is.

Ahem... http://developer.android.com/tools/support-library/index.html ...

 

[Panajev2001a]

You know, link has been a teenager, a ten year old, a wolf and even had pink hair once, but having a female or hispanic incarnation would just be too much. You're right.

Someone may say that equating a white boy turning into an animal through magic is different than him turning into a Hispanic boy or girl. Imagine if they did it like Majora's Mask... It would actually be quite racist.

 

[Malus]

I'll be honest, after 3D World I'm not very optimistic. Ratchet PS4 is a VERY high bar.

Now if they made 3D Mario NX with the same scale that they're making Zelda U in, THAT has a lot of potential to indeed surpass Ratchet PS4.

I don't see how turning 3D Mario into a huge open world game would help the graphics. You don't need a huge scale world to have pretty vistas and cool set pieces. Just make it Ratchet and Clank scale lol. Any bigger and the visuals will probably end up suffering for stuff you can't even see because it's so damn far away.

On the other hand I'm can't say I'm not excited to see what the NX's horsepower could do when it's focusing all its power on rendering the small, compact levels of a Galaxy/3D World/Captain Toad type game.

 

[Milly Osworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ift-qifMVoA

Funny video that really fits with all this Reddit craziness.

 

[Meesh]

On the other hand I'm can't say I'm not excited to see what the NX's horsepower could do when it's focusing all its power on rendering the small, compact levels of a Galaxy/3D World/Captain Toad type game.

A new Galaxy would be ace, but I'm also hoping for Capcom support with RE and Monster Hunter. Looking forward to Zelda meltdowns (the good kind) and an IP revival as well as a new entry. Final Fantasy and DQ are icing on the cake...if any or all of these are at E3 my hype will be uncontainable Itll be like going back to the SNES days but with extra gimmickry(?) I presume.

 

[DangerMan]

Huh, look at this, Monolith (western) has a QA job post, and it says:

https://careers.timewarner.com/tgwebhost/jobdetails.aspx?partnerid=391&siteid=36&jobid=752955



This was found by Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4dtwz9/monolith_productions_is_possibly_making_a_game/

Now only two possibilities here; they're working on NX, or they're happy with Nintendo lot check experience so that the person can just move on to Sony and MS stuff easily. Likely the latter, but you never know.

EDIT: BAN MY IP FROM GAF, ALL OF THEM

 

[Hero of Legend]

My main 3rd-party hope really is just Sonic with a AAA (for the series) NX-exclusive on the scale of Unleashed and Generations HD.

That is a link to a job at Time Warner's Monolith(Productions) not Nintendo's Monolith(Soft).

Why do you think I said "Monolith (western)"?

 

[Nanashrew]

I do actually hope we get to see more Dragon Quest 11 at some point. And hopefully one day a localization! It was announced for PS4, NX and 3DS and I want to play it sometime soon!

 

[NateDrake]

Reddit certainly has gone crazy with NX rumors.

 

[Hero of Legend]

I do actually hope we get to see more Dragon Quest 11 at some point. And hopefully one day a localization! It was announced for PS4, NX and 3DS and I want to play it sometime soon!

I'm sure we'll see DQ11 (and DQ10) at a Japanese event after the NX is unveiled (maybe even when the system is unveiled along with its Japanese lineup) or at TGS.

Reddit certainly has gone crazy with NX rumors.

At this point, when people catch up, folks will show a rumor, and it'd go like this:

*shows NX rumor*

Reddit?

Read it.