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Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.

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Eolz

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With PlatinumGames busy with other projects like Scalebound, StarFox and etc, I seriously doubt Bayonetta 3 would be ready for NX launch if the launch was 2018, let alone by the end of this year.

With good team schedule and management it could release in 2018. There's obviously no way it'd be there for launch though.
 
With PlatinumGames busy with other projects like Scalebound, StarFox and etc, I seriously doubt Bayonetta 3 would be ready for NX launch if the launch was 2018, let alone by the end of this year.

Id rather have a wonderful 101 sequel - its a Nintendo owned IP right? Would love for it to be built upon.
 

ozfunghi

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Just FYI, Xenoblade X has a medium budget. Despite what it seems, it's not an AAA game (actually, you can see where they had to cut corners to achieve other things, and Takahashi explained it himself).

But yeah, i'd love to see X in 1080p with better lighting, effects etc. It would look beyond glorious.

Fuck that. Release it with a story this time.
 

AntMurda

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Just FYI, Xenoblade X has a medium budget. Despite what it seems, it's not an AAA game (actually, you can see where they had to cut corners to achieve other things, and Takahashi explained it himself).

But yeah, i'd love to see X in 1080p with better lighting, effects etc. It would look beyond glorious.

No it's definitely a AAA game. But there's a Nintendo scale, they are a more conservative publisher when it comes to budgets, and they certainly had an idea that the Wii U user base could only generate x amount of sales. But little by little Nintendo embraces some of the more contemporary trends and production expenses.
 

Rodin

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Fuck that. Release it with a story this time.
I don't see the point in posts like these. X is a game heavily influenced by western open world titles, maybe you don't remember this, but Takahashi said he wanted Monolith to be seen as the "oriental Bethesda" when X development began. He also said that the vast majority of japanese RPGs (those without a huge name like FF, to be clear) are made with a budget that needs to be covered with Japan sales alone. Having a mid tier budget means that they had to cut some corners and some aspects of the game weren't up to what he'd hoped: he made a few examples, like not being able to pay a team highly skilled in 3d modeling for characters, or cutscenes being "subpar". Likewise, the story wasn't as important as building a huge, rich open world with tons of quests, so Monolith used this title's particular setting and background (humanity needs to colonize a whole new planet in order to adapt and survive) to build an open world game that is in a few ways more similar to western ones, with tons of subquests and storylines related to the colonization aspect. They also started building the setting for a bigger story (which will be one of the main focuses in their next title, as Takahashi already stated) with the main quest, as you can see with its finale.

Takahashi said:
While Xenoblade Chronicles was a true story-driven JRPG, we took a rather different approach with Xenoblade Chronicles X. You could say it doesn't really feel like a typical JRPG: what really sets it apart from other JRPGs is that the game world - the planet Mira - is really vast. I've heard that some Japanese users who played Xenoblade Chronicles X said they enjoyed a more story-driven type of game. So if we have the opportunity to make another game in the series, I'd like to made another typical JRPG-style game like Xenoblade Chronicles again.


No it's definitely a AAA game. But there's a Nintendo scale, they are a more conservative publisher when it comes to budgets, and they certainly had an idea that the Wii U user base could only generate x amount of sales. But little by little Nintendo embraces some of the more contemporary trends and production expenses.

Damn, you know that better than Takahashi? ;)

Takahashi said:
I imagine a large part of the appeal is in this being the first open-world RPG from Japan. I also think it's really meaningful that this is a middle tier title, rather than a AAA title.

/OT
 

bachikarn

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Rogers actually implies there are more than 4 ports coming

Emily Rogers ‏@ArcadeGirl64
@Drtre81 There's a lot of Wii U ports coming to NX. (I know four of them) And that's why I'm wondering if NX will even bother with BC or not

She only knows of 4. So you guys can guess more than 4 games :p
 

Neoxon

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I still think we're more likely to get a port of Pokkén Tournament than a port of Splatoon. As stated before, Splatoon as a franchise would be better off with a sequel in the near future rather than a remaster of the first game. Pokkén is supposed to be The Pokémon Company's in with the FGC & eSports as a whole. No use in letting it sink with the Wii U.
 

entremet

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Wii U ports were a given.

No way they make a new Smash from scratch again lol. Sakurai literally kills himself making those.

Smash 4 NX will probably be all the DLC, 3DS stages, and hopefully Smash Run on Steroids and better online options.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Wii U ports were a given.

No way they make a new Smash from scratch again lol. Sakurai literally kills himself making those.

Smash 4 NX will probably be all the DLC, 3DS stages, and hopefully Smash Run on Steroids and better online options.
They probably will do Smash 5 (mostly) from scratch, but not this soon after finishing 4's DLC.
 

Peru

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Maybe all major wiiu games are ported to nx for whoever missed out on wiiu.

Yeah I've been thinking this. Basically a 'Wii U hits' line of ports. It doesn't take up much resources. I welcome it, and would like to see stuff like Mario 3D World as well.
 

NeonZ

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No it's definitely a AAA game. But there's a Nintendo scale, they are a more conservative publisher when it comes to budgets, and they certainly had an idea that the Wii U user base could only generate x amount of sales. But little by little Nintendo embraces some of the more contemporary trends and production expenses.

They've specifically talked about how the final story ended up like it did because they had no budget for a cinematic game, focusing their resources on their new HD engine and building the world rather than that.
 

MrV4ltor

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We know that 3/4 of them are Zelda, Smash 4, & [Xenoblade X or Super Mario Maker].

Why Xenoblade or Mario Maker tho? What's the evidence on that?
"Update 14: I read NeoGAF"

Nintendo is trying very hard to keep everything secret but i will leak some info" : After Zelda NEX definitive Edition (Wii U port), some sources are now leaking Smash Bros NEX Definitive version (Wii U port)
So what if i told you my source told me the name of the other two games? Would you believe me now?

So, which leaker is this again? The one that says the NX will be called NEX?
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Why are we still giving attention to that guy? I suppose just for lols now, right? :D
 

Peru

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Reddit jokers are not so interesting to talk about anymore, now we have a believable source giving us a few morsels of the good stuff.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Rogers actually implies there are more than 4 ports coming



She only knows of 4. So you guys can guess more than 4 games :p

Nintendo showing some intelligence. Obvious decision of course, but that hasn't stopped them before.
 

MK_768

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"Update 14: I read NeoGAF"

Nintendo is trying very hard to keep everything secret but i will leak some info" : After Zelda NEX definitive Edition (Wii U port), some sources are now leaking Smash Bros NEX Definitive version (Wii U port)
So what if i told you my source told me the name of the other two games? Would you believe me now?

HA! Please. Smash Wii U port to NX was leaked way before yesterday. He's desperate. He also proved he reads this thread on update 11 or something. He mentions gaf insiders lol.

Anyways, I've had a change of heart on the ports to NX. This isn't like the Xbox One and PS4 because for NX we are talking about games that were for a system with ~12M people. PS3 and 360 sold over 100M units. So i really felt like people were just buying the same game again on PS4/XB1. It can be different with NX if NX sells well. They can potentially be new games to a lot of people. Think of the millions who skipped Wii U but were interested in a couple of the games. If NX is cheap enough and seems like a good console with good services the ports could definitely push those who skipped Wii U to buy NX.
 

Shikamaru Ninja

任天堂 の 忍者
We know that 3/4 of them are Zelda, Smash 4, & [Xenoblade X or Super Mario Maker].

I'm not sure if Zelda counts in the same way since it never actually had a prior release before the NX. But if it does:

1. The Legend of Zelda
2. Super Smash Bros. Ultra
3. Super Mario Maker DX
4. ????? The guessing game.

4. If there is only more port, then Splatoon makes the most sense. The DLC is basically just about to end, and the community and sales are still red hot.
 

Bert

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If they can do online crossplay between NX and Wii U, I won't mind buying Splatoon, MK 8 and Smash again TBH. I'd imagine Zelda is the other port, no? Or does that not count if it was cross gen from the start? Maybe Mario Maker. They can keep all of them fresh with DLC anyway.

I'd kill for a 4 player local multiplayer Splatoon though, even if the graphics were identical. And a proper battle mode in MK8.
 
All this port stuff, if true, is rather silly on Nintendo's part. For people that missed out on Wii U? The core Nintendo base buys Nintendo systems on launch, and the majority of them will have owned and played those games on Wii U.

One would hope that there are a lot more original games, of the same level as the ports, in development.
 

maxcriden

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Wasn't there some Luigi's Mansion rumor (that also looked really good)? (Not the arcade game)

Which rumor was this?

P.S. I think I find it the most tedious online maneuver of all when people announce they will be releasing a rumor or leak. Why talk about it at all before you can release it?

Also, is there a summary somewhere of her track record? My understanding is that others corroborated yesterday's Zelda leak but I'm still wondering about her overall record.
 

Peru

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All this port stuff, if true, is rather silly on Nintendo's part. For people that missed out on Wii U? The core Nintendo base buys Nintendo systems on launch, and the majority of them will have owned and played those games on Wii U.

One would hope that there are a lot more original games, of the same level as the ports, in development.

Porting between these two HD systems is a trivial job. It's not like development resources would be spent on it.

And yes. Wii U hasn't sold to a fraction of the Nintendo fans say the 3DS has. There are a ton of potential customers for a line best-of Wii U line. Not doing it would be like throwing away these games for good for no reason.
 

RAWi

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I dont think Pikmin 4 is coming to Wii U tho.

I don't think so too, haha.

However, Miyamoto did confirm the Pikmin 4 was in development, and Wii U is the most obvious console for the one it was planned to release.

Now that the NX is in the horizon and almost here, I think that instead of releasing it for Wii U it will jump to the NX boat. But I don't know if that could be considered as a pseudo-port xD.
 
All this port stuff, if true, is rather silly on Nintendo's part. For people that missed out on Wii U? The core Nintendo base buys Nintendo systems on launch, and the majority of them will have owned and played those games on Wii U.

One would hope that there are a lot more original games, of the same level as the ports, in development.

I mean there's a new 3D Mario, Retro's game, a rumored Luigi's Mansion 3, Pikmin 4. And who knows what else until Nintendo reveals the system (s).

Maybe Paper Mario Color Splash is getting ported afterall?
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I'm not sure if Zelda counts in the same way since it never actually had a prior release before the NX. But if it does:

1. The Legend of Zelda
2. Super Smash Bros. Ultra
3. Super Mario Maker DX
4. ????? The guessing game.

4. If there is only more port, then Splatoon makes the most sense. The DLC is basically just about to end, and the community and sales are still red hot.
Like I said earlier, a port of Pokkén Tournament would make more sense than Splatoon. Unlike Pokkén, Nintendo's in a good position to where they can get a Splatoon sequel out by 2017, which would be better for the franchise in the long-term. Porting Pokkén to the NX Platform would also help with keeping the game alive in the FGC (maybe with some extra characters, features, balance changes, etc.).
 

Jaagen

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I mean there's a new 3D Mario, Retro's game, a rumored Luigi's Mansion 3, Pikmin 4. And who knows what else until Nintendo reveals the system (s).

Maybe Paper Mario Color Splash is getting ported afterall?

I'm guessing Mario Kart, Smash, Splatoon and Paper Mario alongside Zelda. Those make the most sense, as I doubt they would port over 3D World.
 

Shikamaru Ninja

任天堂 の 忍者
One would hope that there are a lot more original games, of the same level as the ports, in development.

The point is new games require a lot of staff and cooking time. For a company that usually gets denied significant third party releases, it's the smartest way to initially put up a few great games early on.

Imagine what the last 2 SEGA consoles on the market would be without SEGA porting their arcade games over. Empty.
 

Rodin

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Rogers actually implies there are more than 4 ports coming



She only knows of 4. So you guys can guess more than 4 games :p
Zelda (cross gen, D1)
Smash (Definitive Edition with all DLCs, D1)
Splatoon (launch window or portable launch, cross release)
Super Mario Maker (within the first year, home/portable cross release)
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (within the first year, home/portable cross release)
Paper Mario Color Splash (within the first year, maybe home/portable cross release)
Xenoblade HD Collection (let me dream)

I still think we're more likely to get a port of Pokkén Tournament than a port of Splatoon. As stated before, Splatoon as a franchise would be better off with a sequel in the near future rather than a remaster of the first game. Pokkén is supposed to be The Pokémon Company's in with the FGC & eSports as a whole. No use in letting it sink with the Wii U.

Splatoon 2 won't take 10 months to finish, it will likely be a much bigger and ambitious title than the first one. With that in mind, and considering that they want to sell the NX to all those people who never bought a Wii U, it doesn't make sense to wait late 2017-2018 and release only Splatoon 2 on the platform when a (very quick and cheap) re-release of the prequel can still sell a lot and possibly help moving a few consoles. For what we know, they may want to release it on the portable too, and enable cross play with the Wii U version.

A sequel will come for sure, but a Splatoon Remaster release in launch window makes a lot of sense, especially if porting Wii U games to the NX is as easy as it was suggested. In any case, it doesn't make ANY sense to leave it behind.
 

radcliff

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Zelda
Smash
Mario maker
Pokken


Those make sense as ports to me because they are unlikely to get a sequel in the next 2-3 years.

Nintendo needs a new mario kart asap, not a port of a 2 year old game. Mario kart is too much of a system seller.
I also expect a new animal crossing quite soon, which was originally planned for wii u.

This is why I am thinking the 4th port is Splatoon. The Splatoon team was under the direction of the Animal Crossing team. By outsourcing a Splatoon port, it allows the Animal Crossing team to develop a new AC title. A Splatoon port and a new AC game around launch would do wonders for the Japanese market.

So I am thinking:
- Legend of Zelda
- Super Smash Bros
- Super Mario Maker
- Splatoon

EDIT- Oh, there is apparently more than 4.
 
Porting between these two HD systems is a trivial job. It's not like development resources would be spent on it.

And yes. Wii U hasn't sold to a fraction of the Nintendo fans say the 3DS has. There are a ton of potential customers for a line best-of Wii U line. Not doing it would be like throwing away these games for good for no reason.
I disagree. I reckon the Wii U has sold to a signficant number of the core Nintendo console base, which outside of Wii has been shrinking each generation. I don't tend to think of the 50m 3DS base as the core Nintendo base.
 
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