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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)

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Omadahl

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Nintendo better be ready to market this bastard hard. I'm talking Super Bowl, college playoffs, Christmas, March Madness advertisements constantly flowing over the populace. Without an E3 showing, this is going to be rough to show how it works. It's not like your average person watches Nintendo Directs.
 

takriel

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With this delay and crap Nintendo better make sure NX doesn't have a single game drought in its first 12 months.

It's so curious to launch a new console with a new Zelda in March. Could potentially see Zelda, Metroid, and Mario in the first 9 months. Of course this is hopeful thinking and based on the idea that Retro is making a new Metroid game.
Oh there will be droughts... Heh
 
Nintendo better be ready to market this bastard hard. I'm talking Super Bowl, college playoffs, Christmas, March Madness advertisements constantly flowing over the populace. Without an E3 showing, this is going to be rough to show how it works. It's not like your average person watches Nintendo Directs.

You and I both know they're not doing that.
 

Schnozberry

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You mean more disappointment than they currently give?

No, I'd actually prefer them to show up demonstrating some semblance of competence, planning, and perhaps a little ambition to boot. You believe after last year's E3 they haven't had the opportunity? But hey, what am I saying? Nintendo obviously always knows best, exemplified by their current position and the nigh complete absence of software for the remainder of the year.

Right, who cares about E3? I eagerly look forward to the NX's unveiling by a corporate suit in a dull, bland white office in Japan through a Direct a few months before release. That'll really get me pumped for their new system and software.

Sony and Microsoft didn't unveil their consoles at E3 either. It's just not that big of a deal anymore. It's good for a weeks worth of a news cycle and people quickly move on. They can announce NX at it's own event and maximize their coverage.
 

The_Lump

Banned
If they didn't reveal it at E3, I at least expected it to be there.

Me too, but only if it was reveled before hand.

In my mind, the options were:

Reveal before e3, show some more bits/further info at e3.

or

Reveal after e3, because it aint coming out this year :)


Even if a 2017 launch was considered, an appearance at this year's E3 was expected.

Ok, well not by me. After the WiiU debacle, I fully expected Nintendo to keep the reveal and launch as close together as possible this time round.
 

Peltz

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What's also crazy to me is that NX will be a "new concept" but that Zelda will be totally playable on it.

So, how new can the NX truly be?
 
Missing e3 is crazy to me, I mean the hardcore Nintendo fans are going to buy it regardless but for people who aren't the biggest Nintendo fans missing a hype event like e3 is a death knell.
And I also find it funny that people believe the PS4K or xbone 1.5 have anything to do with Nintendo delaying. It's like people enjoy setting themselves up for disappointment. The nx will NOT be bought and sold on console processing power.
Why is missing E3 a "death knell"? Do you really think the media will ignore Nintendo's huge NX-exclusive press conference with demo stations just because it's after E3??

What's also crazy to me is that NX will be a "new concept" but that Zelda will be totally playable on it.

So, how new can the NX truly be?
Happened with the Wii, Wii was pretty damn "new concept" but got Twilight Princess same as GameCube...
 

MK_768

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Sure, but that's because everyone believed rumors that it was launching in 2016 :)


Edit: Top of page. Come at me.

Which rumors? The only viable rumor that said 2016 was Trev. I've seen people mention Emily but I haven't seen the receipts on that lol.
 

nynt9

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March 2017 seems like they're trying to get it in before the end of the fiscal year. Not because they have the launch games ready - those will probably come in holiday 2017
 
I like the 2017 release year but what has me confused is that there will be no showing at E3. I think it should have been shown there since not everyone watches the directs.
 

N30RYU

Member
I can totally see nintendo doing a GC>Wii WiiU>NX.


If with all the cash they made with the Wii... they released the WiiU a consola that even can't play DVD movies... what to expect of a console announced in a media fiscal year balance event...
 
Would they have time to change specs of the NX if it's not as good as the PS4k? I doubt it.
I'm fairly certain this is not a reactionary move in regards to PS4K. To me it's more indicative of an unexpected shift in strategy or unforeseen internal complications within the company.
 

thefro

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They're not even showing the system at E3. They have nothing ready to show 9 months before launch.

NX launch is going to be barren.

Heads ought to roll if they have nothing ready that they could have shown at E3.

Literally every group in the company should have something queued up that could launch in 2017 given the lack of game output the last couple of years.

Which rumors? The only viable rumor that said 2016 was Trev. I've seen people mention Emily but I haven't seen the receipts on that lol.

Trev never firmly said 2016, just that NX would launch when Zelda did (which was 2016), and his third party source thought they could make 2016 launch given the NDA timing.
 

Fritz

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Nintendo better be ready to market this bastard hard. I'm talking Super Bowl, college playoffs, Christmas, March Madness advertisements constantly flowing over the populace. Without an E3 showing, this is going to be rough to show how it works. It's not like your average person watches Nintendo Directs.

I think you're right here apart from the last two sentences. What average person watches E3 press conferences?
 
I don't care that they are launching it next year, but holy shit at the thing not being at this year's E3.

I really hope they don't announce the thing in a Direct. They need an exclusive press conference just like the one Sony had for the PS4. They need mainstream news outlets covering the console.
 

pirata

Member
Wow, this is nuts. It's like Sega in 1998 all over again. So Nintendo could conceivably not have any new product at all on the store shelves this holiday season, and will instead spend the rest of this year promoting a game that won't be out for ten or eleven months? If they aren't ready on the NX front, it's probably the right move, since this new machine will be do or die and they need to do anything they can to make it a success, but wow. Unless Miitomo is printing money for them like that old gif, this next year is going to be super harsh financially.

Edit: What the hell is E3 going to be like for them? Just the Wii U version of Zelda and nothing else? The version that most people won't play (if it's another TP situation)? How are they going to promote NX? This is bizarre!
 

Vanillalite

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What also gets me is a lot of their games this gen were handled by at least partially outside studios. Bamco on Smash. Grez did the Zelda 3ds remakes. Plat worked on Starfox. Next Level is doing Metroid. Tantalus worked on TP HD.

A lot of their internal stuff has been out for a while. DKTF, Mario Kart 8, SM3D Land/World, Pikmin 3 ect... all dropped a while ago.

Nintendo trying to out do Sony on 1st parties being MIA with nothing to show at conferences.
 

Effect

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Maybe the PS4 Neo/Xbox1.5 stuff created an oh shit moment for them when they realized they'd be underpowered again with whatever specs they were targeting for NX?

Very possible.

It could also be a stock issue as well. With a world wide launch you need to have a significant inventory. The point of a world wide launch is to make it a massive event and use that press and feeling to generate hype and desire for the system. Assuming the NX would launch in 2016 it most likely would have launched in Oct or November. It launching in March of 2017 pushes things back 4 or 5 months. That's not a big length of time. If you're going to push back the launch then delaying information overall makes sense. Once you start releasing details you can ride that wave to the launch.

March also removes Nintendo from the crazy that is the holiday season. Where everyone launches games. It gives them the beginning of the year where there isn't much happening.

I would expect we get the NX event during the Fall around Sept.

Edit:

Let's remember though that the 3DS is getting a brand new Pokemon game this holiday. That isn't a insignificant thing. I would expect the Wii U would finally get a price cut. There is also Paper Mario and that Pikmin game that could be launching for the Wii U this Fall as well.
 
This Zelda must literally be the best fucking game ever if it's all they have at E3. They had more at PAX East for fucks sake.
It'll have one hell of a booth display, that's for sure. And by God if there's more than a five minute wait time to play the thing - they fucked up hard.


Speaking of PAX - what are the odds of PAX Prime being the first place where a hands-on is possible? September would line up a bit better with their March release target.
 

DeepEnigma

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Don't worry Nintendo knows how to roll bruv

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Still waiting on my Terminator 2 graphics the 'Ultra 64' was supposed to deliver with the SGI graphics tech...
 

CronoShot

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Well the console is clearly too far off to show in June. So it would make no sense to show software for it before we've seen the hardware.

If there was nothing at all to show and no chance of anything being ready for March.......why would they slate it for March?

WiiU will have been left hung out to dry for the best part of a year by the time NX launches. And as I said in a previous post - unless you think Nintendo's various studios have been sat twiddling their thumbs for two years it's pretty simple to deduce that everything was shifted to NX some time ago.

Time will tell, but I think Nintendo are set up for NX's first year better than they have been for some time.

I'm not saying the system can't possibly be ready by March. I'm just saying that the writing is all over the wall that they won't have much ready for launch, assuming it isn't delayed even further, which is a very real possibility.

And yes, the Wii U will have been hung out to dry for a year by the time the NX launches. You know what else was hung out to dry for like a year before its successor launched?

The Wii.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
What's also crazy to me is that NX will be a "new concept" but that Zelda will be totally playable on it.

So, how new can the NX truly be?

Still betting on that TV attachment that makes 2D screens 3D and projects images like the patent showed.
 

jennetics

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Sony and Microsoft didn't unveil their consoles at E3 either. It's just not that big of a deal anymore. It's good for a weeks worth of a news cycle and people quickly move on. They can announce NX at it's own event and maximize their coverage.

Huh...I didn't realize that. Good point, still excited to see what Nintendo has in store.
 

The_Lump

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Which rumors? The only viable rumor that said 2016 was Trev. I've seen people mention Emily but I haven't seen the receipts on that lol.

Yeah that was it. Without that, there was no indication it was ever 2016 beyond the assumption AMD were talking about NX when they mentioned ramping up production of semi-customs late 2016
 
Sure, but that's because everyone believed rumors that it was launching in 2016 :)


Edit: Top of page. Come at me.

Treveleyan9999's info was a straight-up leak, not a rumour. It said 2016 and launching with Zelda.

Even that aside, even the people who thought it was coming in 2017 didn't rule out the system being at E3.

I'm not trying to discredit that you called it or whatever, but you're suggesting that the beliefs NX would launch in 2016 and be present at E3 were entirely unfounded, when really, all the hints and evidence that we had made it seem like that those things whether together or not weren't an unreasonable conclusion.
 

ktroopa

Member
Lol global launch and nintendo in the same sentance dont fit for me. More like the delay will be delayed to stock shortages.. Cant trust atm sorry
 

Markoman

Member
Letas be fair, the NX could come out anytime and it still won't compete against the PS4. It is destined to be a secondary system for people to play 2-3 first party games a year, then immediately go back to PS4/XB1/PC to play everything else.

Bad news man, the days of owning 2 consoles are over for most of us if VR becomes a success. What do you expect? Will people get into the iterative upgrade model, into VR and a second console? Has per capita income drastically increased ww?

No, but if you're right Nintendo will face heavy comeptition in that fight for the bread crumbs.
 

Kintaro

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This is a sign of how trash and unimportant E3 is and nothing more.

E3 is the event where Sony took control of the industry two years in a row. Sony's E3 before PS4 launch put that system on lock for being the console market leader for a generation to come. Sony's E3 2015 was a dream event that was talked about on major news networks. Caught both the eye of casual and hardcore.

Are you serious with this?
 
Me too, but only if it was reveled before hand.

In my mind, the options were:

Reveal before e3, show some more bits/further info at e3.

or

Reveal after e3, because it aint coming out this year :)




Ok, well not by me. After the WiiU debacle, I fully expected Nintendo to keep the reveal and launch as close together as possible this time round.

I really don't think Wii U would have fared much better if it were revealed at E3 2012.
 
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Deleted member 752119

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Would they have time to change specs of the NX if it's not as good as the PS4k? I doubt it.

Assuming that dev kits aren't out, and that production hasn't started, sure.

They couldn't totally reinvent it but they could easily step up the CPU/GPU to the next model from whoever they'partnering with, put in more RAM etc.
 
I'm fairly certain this is not a reactionary move in regards to PS4K. To me it's more indicative of an unexpected shift in strategy or unforeseen internal complications within the company.

Sony will probably have similar issues with 14nm not quite being ready enough in 2016

What also gets me is a lot of their games this gen were handled by at least partially outside studios. Bamco on Smash. Grez did the Zelda 3ds remakes. Plat worked on Starfox. Next Level is doing Metroid. Tantalus worked on TP HD.

A lot of their internal stuff has been out for a while. DKTF, Mario Kart 8, SM3D Land/World, Pikmin 3 ect... all dropped a while ago.

Nintendo trying to out do Sony on 1st parties being MIA with nothing to show at conferences.

Maybe Nintendo can announce some games that are 6 years off, an episodic remake of a popular title which changes its scale/scope and a Kickstarter live on stage. Seems to go over well with the hardcore
 

Schnozberry

Member
Yeah that was it. Without that, there was no indication it was ever 2016 beyond the assumption AMD were talking about NX when they mentioned ramping up production of semi-customs late 2016

For a March 2017 worldwide release they'd have to start mass production around October/November, so AMD's timeline makes sense.
 

Griss

Member
I agree that showing NX elsewhere than E3 won't hurt them that much, it's just the fact that it appears that they wanted to get it out this year and it appears that they're struggling with it that is upsetting.

One thing is for sure... it's going to be the weirdest atmosphere in the run-up to E3 for Nintendo fans. It will be the first one I recall without any hype to it whatsoever.
 

Effect

Member
It'll have one hell of a booth display, that's for sure. And by God if there's more than a five minute wait time to play the thing - they fucked up hard.


Speaking of PAX - what are the odds of PAX Prime being the first place where a hands-on is possible? September would line up a bit better with their March release target.

How the Nintendo section is setup should be interesting. If it's all dedicated to Zelda (not just the new game but likely the franchise overall) it could be a thing of wonder to see. Think about how a renaissance fair looks. Nintendo could go all out here to show off the new Zelda game.

So would Nintendo holding a NX only event.

That's what it is sounding like.
 
E3 is the event where Sony took control of the industry two years in a row. Sony's E3 before PS4 launch put that system on lock for being the console market leader for a generation to come. Sony's E3 2015 was a dream event that was talked about on major news networks. Caught both the eye of casual and hardcore.

Are you serious with this?

Head in the sand
 

Morts

Member
I did not realize when I bought Twilight Princess HD in February that I might not buy another Nintendo console game for over a year.
 
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