Perhaps the biggest folly of all this discussion is the notion that Nintendo won't get coverage if they aren't at E3. They are still one of the most well known Japanese brands. If they are ignore by Polygon, they will get picked up by WSJ and Washington Post - which if their plan is interesting enough - will be have a much larger impact. Sorry, but the gaming enthusiast media does not create trends. A majority of sales will come from people who do not follow the industry. Nintendo, like Apple or Microsoft will be covered by large financial publications and national US news media regardless of what Kotaku says.The ball is truly in Nintendo's court.
Personal opinion? If they emulate the quality software they produced with the Wii U on a faster production schedule and include some sort of nostalgic cross-play virtual console? Its in the bag. The will get customers and they know it - they have the brands. Nobody can argue that people care more about any Sony or Microsoft brand than they care about Mario and Zelda. It's leveraging that strength in a smart way. And I don't believe they need third party support in the traditional manner.
Of course they will coverage, but why keep things so secretive? You should be trying to talk as much about this thing as possible even just to reassure your fans it won't be a repeat of the Wii U situation.
And to be honest they do need 3rd party support. If they had EA, Ubi, Activision etc backing them similar to how they back Sony and MS you'd probably have more people buying the console. Nintendo has been losing their relevance in the console space for years now. The Wii was a one off.
Of course they will coverage, but why keep things so secretive? You should be trying to talk as much about this thing as possible even just to reassure your fans it won't be a repeat of the Wii U situation.
And to be honest they do need 3rd party support. If they had EA, Ubi, Activision etc backing them similar to how they back Sony and MS you'd probably have more people buying the console. Nintendo has been losing their relevance in the console space for years now. The Wii was a one off.
I'm still confused. Where is everyone getting that Zelda U was delayed to 2017? I thought that all it said was that the NX will get (launch with?) a port of Zelda U. That doesn't mean the game can't come out before the NX.
Interviewer: "So, of course you're showing off the new Zelda-game here at the booth, and it's fair to say it has gotten a great reception. But we're also seeing a lot of Wii U owners expressing disappointment that not only is Zelda not coming out this year, but overall the lineup of Wii U software for this year and beyond is basically empty. What do you have to say to those fans?"
Reggie: "You know, first of all, there's still great Wii U software on the way. Let's not forget about Paper Mario; thin as paper, but a great game for action-adventure fans. As you mentioned: Zelda. We've tried setting up a lot of demo stations here on the showfloor, but still there's long lines for people to finally get their hands on it. It's a big game in a gigantic world you'll want to spend a lot of time in, and you know, I think that's a recurring theme when you look at our library of games for Wii U; games like Mario Kart 8, Smash, Splatoon. Games that were truly built with longevity in mind, and that are still fun to pick up and play online or with your friends and family. So I think, even as we look forward to 2017 and the arrival of Zelda and NX, there is still much fun to be had on the Wii U."
They write themselves. I don't know why, but maybe gamers have been inundated with enough PR speak to be able to generate it rather authentically themselves.
I'm still confused. Where is everyone getting that Zelda U was delayed to 2017? I thought that all it said was that the NX will get (launch with?) a port of Zelda U. That doesn't mean the game can't come out before the NX.
I'm still confused. Where is everyone getting that Zelda U was delayed to 2017? I thought that all it said was that the NX will get (launch with?) a port of Zelda U. That doesn't mean the game can't come out before the NX.
I'm still confused. Where is everyone getting that Zelda U was delayed to 2017? I thought that all it said was that the NX will get (launch with?) a port of Zelda U. That doesn't mean the game can't come out before the NX.
So if this E3 is focusing on Zelda but they won't be talking about NX... doesn't that create a conflict of interest? Are they just going to pretend that Zelda won't be on their new hardware?
So if this E3 is focusing on Zelda but they won't be talking about NX... doesn't that create a conflict of interest? Are they just going to pretend that Zelda won't be on their new hardware?
So if this E3 is focusing on Zelda but they won't be talking about NX... doesn't that create a conflict of interest? Are they just going to pretend that Zelda won't be on their new hardware?
Nope, but you'll get canned PR responses of "We're only talking about the Wii U version of Zelda at this time. Please look forward to more information from nintendo at a later time"
So if this E3 is focusing on Zelda but they won't be talking about NX... doesn't that create a conflict of interest? Are they just going to pretend that Zelda won't be on their new hardware?
Interviewer: "So, of course you're showing off the new Zelda-game here at the booth, and it's fair to say it has gotten a great reception. But we're also seeing a lot of Wii U owners expressing disappointment that not only is Zelda not coming out this year, but overall the lineup of Wii U software for this year and beyond is basically empty. What do you have to say to those fans?"
Reggie: "You know, first of all, there's still great Wii U software on the way. Let's not forget about Paper Mario; thin as paper, but a great game for action-adventure fans. As you mentioned: Zelda. We've tried setting up a lot of demo stations here on the showfloor, but still there's long lines for people to finally get their hands on it. It's a big game in a gigantic world you'll want to spend a lot of time in, and you know, I think that's a recurring theme when you look at our library of games for Wii U; games like Mario Kart 8, Smash, Splatoon. Games that were truly built with longevity in mind, and that are still fun to pick up and play online or with your friends and family. So I think, even as we look forward to 2017 and the arrival of Zelda and NX, there is still much fun to be had on the Wii U."
Interviewer: "So, of course you're showing off the new Zelda-game here at the booth, and it's fair to say it has gotten a great reception. But we're also seeing a lot of Wii U owners expressing disappointment that not only is Zelda not coming out this year, but overall the lineup of Wii U software for this year and beyond is basically empty. What do you have to say to those fans?"
Reggie: "You know, first of all, there's still great Wii U software on the way. Let's not forget about Paper Mario; thin as paper, but a great game for action-adventure fans. As you mentioned: Zelda. We've tried setting up a lot of demo stations here on the showfloor, but still there's long lines for people to finally get their hands on it. It's a big game in a gigantic world you'll want to spend a lot of time in, and you know, I think that's a recurring theme when you look at our library of games for Wii U; games like Mario Kart 8, Smash, Splatoon. Games that were truly built with longevity in mind, and that are still fun to pick up and play online or with your friends and family. So I think, even as we look forward to 2017 and the arrival of Zelda and NX, there is still much fun to be had on the Wii U."
Look, we have all the great Nintendo franchises that you cant get anywhere else. We got the Mario, Donkey Kong, Metroid and the list goes on. We feel our consumers are going to love what these games have to offer from 2017 going forward.
Perhaps the biggest folly of all this discussion is the notion that Nintendo won't get coverage if they aren't at E3. They are still one of the most well known Japanese brands. If they are ignore by Polygon, they will get picked up by WSJ and Washington Post - which if their plan is interesting enough - will be have a much larger impact. Sorry, but the gaming enthusiast media does not create trends. A majority of sales will come from people who do not follow the industry. Nintendo, like Apple or Microsoft will be covered by large financial publications and national US news media regardless of what Kotaku says.The ball is truly in Nintendo's court.
Personal opinion? If they emulate the quality software they produced with the Wii U on a faster production schedule and include some sort of nostalgic cross-play virtual console? Its in the bag. The will get customers and they know it - they have the brands. Nobody can argue that people care more about any Sony or Microsoft brand than they care about Mario and Zelda. It's leveraging that strength in a smart way. And I don't believe they need third party support in the traditional manner.
And what will they have to talk about? Zelda? Because that's it.
Understand this: Polygon's not going to skip over Nintendo's E3 coverage just b/c NX won't be there. Same goes for all the other gaming media. But what else will they have to talk about besides Zelda? Nothing. Maybe some of those (supposed) 3DS games they hinted at recently, but that's it.
And there's the other thing: WSJ, Washington Post....these sort of places are ALWAYS going to talk less about this stuff than dedicated gaming press. So if there's little there for the likes of Polygon or Kotaku or Gamespot, etc., then there's simply that much less there for WSJ or Washington Post. Those mainstream non-gaming sites and publications only cover the big stories, and if forced to dedicate space between PSVR/PS4K/XBO.5 and playing armchair about the NX that was a no-show could be, which of the two do you think they're realistically going to choose to cover?
I'll say it again; no NX at E3 is a mistake. It's only going to hurt, not help. You'll all see in a couple of months.
Interviewer: "So, of course you're showing off the new Zelda-game here at the booth, and it's fair to say it has gotten a great reception. But we're also seeing a lot of Wii U owners expressing disappointment that not only is Zelda not coming out this year, but overall the lineup of Wii U software for this year and beyond is basically empty. What do you have to say to those fans?"
Reggie: "You know, first of all, there's still great Wii U software on the way. Let's not forget about Paper Mario; thin as paper, but a great game for action-adventure fans. As you mentioned: Zelda. We've tried setting up a lot of demo stations here on the showfloor, but still there's long lines for people to finally get their hands on it. It's a big game in a gigantic world you'll want to spend a lot of time in, and you know, I think that's a recurring theme when you look at our library of games for Wii U; games like Mario Kart 8, Smash, Splatoon. Games that were truly built with longevity in mind, and that are still fun to pick up and play online or with your friends and family. So I think, even as we look forward to 2017 and the arrival of Zelda and NX, there is still much fun to be had on the Wii U."
I don't think it's PS4K. I think it's VR, in general.
I think they were probably most of the way through R&D on NX when they began to realize that this VR business was actually going to be a thing this time around. I mean, it's basically everything they want to be promising, isn't it? A new way of experiencing and interacting with games. A new kind of "platform" that's defined more by the display device than the hardware running it. A paradigm shift.
They're probably left looking at whatever they have for the NX and thinking, "This is going to seem like a pretty meager change next to that."
I wouldn't be surprised if they went back to the drawing board and doubled-down on the idea of something that's more in the "ease of use"/convenience/commuter lifestyle spectrum to try and capitalize on the fact that VR is clunky, expensive, and intrusive. I fully expect that they've shifted targets (once again, and possibly moreso than ever) to the low-end market in expectation of ceding the high-end consumers to VR.
Though, the real trick would be if they've actually somehow worked to incorporate themselves into the VR landscape. I seriously doubt it, but that would be something.
All reports I've seen have said that the main VR offerings out there (Vive, Rift, PSVR) are actually pretty elegant and user-friendly. Although the first two are kind of costly, especially Vive. That I'll agree on.
If that's the case, they'll have to delay much further than March to revamp the hardware. If what you're saying is true, that they've panicked in underestimating VR, and behind closed doors are frantically trying to revamp what should have been set in stone at least last month (consoles usually need around a year w/ near-finalized specs so the rest of the time can be focused on securing the needed chips at necessary quantities, assembly, quality testing, packaging, tightening up the software (games and OS), coordinating the marketing campaigns, setting things up with distributors and resellers, etc.), and are still aiming for a March release, then I'd be petrified about what we're going to end up getting. It'd be deja-vu all over again, leading to a similar scenario of troubled develop as one of my other favorite consoles, the Sega Saturn.
But I'm not necessarily convinced that's what going on.
I'll be an optimist for the time being and assume that the delay truly is just down to the software needing more time in the oven. If it's an issue with the hardware, i.e it's insufficient or will pale to offer an experience to rival Rift, Vive, PSVR and/or won't be competitive with PS4K/Neo, then the system is already doomed to failure. And I'd rather that not be the case, as I never actively wish for any console to fail or any console manufacturer to exit. Never have and never will.
EDIT: I also don't see how Nintendo can target the "commuter lifestyle" thing you mention in a way they haven't done by now, without going full-frontal into the smartphone arena. Which would be even less of a bold, exciting experience than VR, not to mention they'd have to go up against competitors who'd completely demolish them on the hardware and brand power (in that market segment) front.
So my thing is, NX either already has some type of VR/AR/holographic display system innovation in it and has had it there from the start, and/or it's been focused on being powerful enough to compete w/ Sony and Microsoft's iterative hardware. Maybe even some integration of Amiibo and AR/VR in the mix, which would be very cool.
Is there anywhere I can read all the current rumors about the NX (by verified or somewhat reliable sources)? I'm feeling pretty out of the loop. Yesterday I saw someone on Reddit say it's shipping with every NES, SNES and N64 game but I couldn't find any sources for that.
And what will they have to talk about? Zelda? Because that's it.
Understand this: Polygon's not going to skip over Nintendo's E3 coverage just b/c NX won't be there. Same goes for all the other gaming media. But what else will they have to talk about besides Zelda? Nothing. Maybe some of those (supposed) 3DS games they hinted at recently, but that's it.
And there's the other thing: WSJ, Washington Post....these sort of places are ALWAYS going to talk less about this stuff than dedicated gaming press. So if there's little there for the likes of Polygon or Kotaku or Gamespot, etc., then there's simply that much less there for WSJ or Washington Post. Those mainstream non-gaming sites and publications only cover the big stories, and if forced to dedicate space between PSVR/PS4K/XBO.5 and playing armchair about the NX that was a no-show could be, which of the two do you think they're realistically going to choose to cover?
I'll say it again; no NX at E3 is a mistake. It's only going to hurt, not help. You'll all see in a couple of months.
The thing is that revealing NX with nothing substantial to show would bring the same problem, so it would have to be a full reveal. If they aren't ready for that, they aren't ready. If they are ready but would be forced to show it without a notable amount of software, would that have helped? That said, they'd probably have been better off skipping E3 in its entirety in that case.
I think they *almost* have the right idea, but NX should have some kind of small presence, even if it's just announcing when the full reveal is. Well, unless you're fine with another botched reveal. Wii U's reveal worked against them more than anything.
I just feel like Nintendo had/has this amazing chance to reboot everyhting and get their shit together and fix what wasn't working.
And with this news it feels like they're already blowing it. I can't see this as anything else but stupendously disappointing and troubling.
Seriously, they have ROYALLY screwed up revealing this Zelda game. Just done everything wrong. They expected it to save the Wii U and now they expect it to save the NX before it's even released and their main strategy it to tout the Wii U version on it's own at the most mainstream event of the year?
I mean what in the neverending fuck? I hope people give them nonstop shit on Twitter from now until E3, since apparently it's the only place they're "listening."
I don't know if anyone has talked about this, but this is what I feel is wrong with Nintendo revealing the NX late: everyone else. That is to say, during this E3, and until the NX reveal event, companies still won't be able to say "Coming to PS4, Xbox One, and the NX." The big megatons of E3 that are targeting 2017+ for release might not be announced for NX as well because of this caveat (even if they are making the game for it).
Sure, when the Reveal Event rolls around, Nintendo can bring out the third party reel of games that were revealed at E3 and confirm that they are in development for the NX too, but by that time a bit of punch will be lessened. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter but it would be nice for them to have more momentum and not seem like "me too!"
I just feel like Nintendo had/has this amazing chance to reboot everyhting and get their shit together and fix what wasn't working.
And with this news it feels like they're already blowing it. I can't see this as anything else but stupendously disappointing and troubling.
Seriously, they have ROYALLY screwed up revealing this Zelda game. Just done everything wrong. They expected it to save the Wii U and now they expect it to save the NX before it's even released and their main strategy it to tout the Wii U version on it's own at the most mainstream event of the year?
I mean what in the neverending fuck? I hope people give them nonstop shit on Twitter from now until E3, since apparently it's the only place they're "listening."
To be completely fair... all of this short term nonsense may be extra effort to pull of a a successful long term "reboot", to use your word. Dunno if it will work, but part of me believes this scrambling is to get their house in order before the launch of their new system, and not after it.
To be completely fair... all of this short term nonsense may be extra effort to pull of a a successful long term "reboot", to use your word. Dunno if it will work, but part of me believes this scrambling is to get their house in order before the launch of their new system, and not after it.
It won't work. They have no Wii U games left besides one that won't release until the NX, and they won't talk about the NX so we won't even have a good idea of what the differences between versions will be.
If they need this much time to "get their house in order," fine, but from what I've seen they have eight varieties of no fucking clue what to do in the interim besides "hey Zelda's coming still."
Burned? I've bought over 30 retail games and numerous indie games. It is my most played console. Granted I love the games Nintendo makes, but I don't feel burned at all with my day-1 purchase.
When they say Next Zelda is the only thing at E3, do they mean the only thing playable or are we seriously not going to see any games announced for NX?
When they say Next Zelda is the only thing at E3, do they mean the only thing playable or are we seriously not going to see any games announced for NX?
Nothing related to NX will be at E3. There's a slight chance that third-parties will mention if their games will come to it, but Nintendo won't be announcing or showing anything.
When they say Next Zelda is the only thing at E3, do they mean the only thing playable or are we seriously not going to see any games announced for NX?
All reports I've seen have said that the main VR offerings out there (Vive, Rift, PSVR) are actually pretty elegant and user-friendly. Although the first two are kind of costly, especially Vive. That I'll agree on.
I think they're elegant and user-friendly from an enthusiast perspective, but when you take into account everything you need to do from a casual user's stance (the necessary PC setup, room preparation, etc.) it's basically a world apart. Certainly, it's not something you're going to see someone's mother pulling out of a box, popping on her head, and going full plug-and-play with it.
I don't think even PSVR will really be able to reach that broad; we're probably another tech iteration away from true "ease-of-access" VR hitting the market.
If that's the case, they'll have to delay much further than March to revamp the hardware.
I'm in the camp that thinks that a March 2017 release date is a white lie to investors. As in, they can set that as their target, but at this point they're internally aware they never hit release targets anyway, so they're fully expecting to slip back to somewhere in the September or even October range.
I also think they probably started refactoring quite some time ago, which is why everything is so mum on the system and there's nothing to show at E3: they already changed gears completely and as a result everything they had is no longer remotely representative of the final product.
It's possible their leak control has just been commendable, but it's far more likely that there's nothing worth leaking because everything that was getting to a state where people were ready to start showing it off is having to be majorly refactored at this exact state in time. (As in, they already started, meaning they should be in a decent state by next Fall.)
EDIT: I also don't see how Nintendo can target the "commuter lifestyle" thing you mention in a way they haven't done by now, without going full-frontal into the smartphone arena. Which would be even less of a bold, exciting experience than VR, not to mention they'd have to go up against competitors who'd completely demolish them on the hardware and brand power (in that market segment) front.
I really wouldn't speculate as to what it might be, but smart device/wearable and even AR wouldn't shock me that much. I think if I'm Nintendo at this point, I look at the console landscape, look at VR, and realize that the enthusiast market is completely beyond reach. I'd double-down on the people who are going to be "disenfranchised" by their initial reluctance or actual inability to jump on the VR hype train.
Then again, Nintendo post-Wii has pretty consistently done the opposite of what I would do if I were Nintendo--or at least, done what I would do four to five years later than I would have done it--so I wouldn't put much stock in that particular prediction.
Burned? I've bought over 30 retail games and numerous indie games. It is my most played console. Granted I love the games Nintendo makes, but I don't feel burned at all with my day-1 purchase.
I think they're elegant and user-friendly from an enthusiast perspective, but when you take into account everything you need to do from a casual user's stance (the necessary PC setup, room preparation, etc.) it's basically a world apart. Certainly, it's not something you're going to see someone's mother pulling out of a box, popping on her head, and going full plug-and-play with it.
I don't think even PSVR will really be able to reach that broad; we're probably another tech iteration away from true "ease-of-access" VR hitting the market.
I'm in the camp that thinks that a March 2017 release date is a white lie to investors. As in, they can set that as their target, but at this point they're internally aware they never hit release targets anyway, so they're fully expecting to slip back to somewhere in the September or even October range.
I also think they probably started refactoring quite some time ago, which is why everything is so mum on the system and there's nothing to show at E3: they already changed gears completely and as a result everything they had is no longer remotely representative of the final product.
It's possible their leak control has just been commendable, but it's far more likely that there's nothing worth leaking because everything that was getting to a state where people were ready to start showing it off is having to be majorly refactored at this exact state in time. (As in, they already started, meaning they should be in a decent state by next Fall.)
I really wouldn't speculate as to what it might be, but smart device/wearable and even AR wouldn't shock me that much. I think if I'm Nintendo at this point, I look at the console landscape, look at VR, and realize that the enthusiast market is completely beyond reach. I'd double-down on the people who are going to be "disenfranchised" by their initial reluctance or actual inability to jump on the VR hype train.
Then again, Nintendo post-Wii has pretty consistently done the opposite of what I would do if I were Nintendo--or at least, done what I would do four to five years later than I would have done it--so I wouldn't put much stock in that particular prediction.
A complete shift in strategy like that would result in a delay to holiday 2018. There's no way they're that terrified of VR. It would also be cheaper from an R&D stadpoint at that point to just offer some kind of option for VR support. You're talking about shifting marketing, redesigning the hardware, and redoing all of the software, just because VR might completely takeover the enthusiast gaming market in a single year. If Nintendo were that impulsive, there wouldn't be a 3DS because they would have gone mobile instead.
That's sort of a random date to throw out there. I guess you're running on the assumption they're literally changing gears today?
The entire supposition, as stated, is based on them already having refactored at some point in the past. Granted, probably the past year, but I'm fairly certain they're well on their way at this point. I'm not saying I think they're going to go into the office tomorrow and say, "Scrap everything! New plan!"
A temporary reprieve from having stock prices drop completely off a cliff, during which time they can try to take steps to soften the eventual impact of having basically nothing at all to recover profit margins in 2017.
It's kind of sleazy, but Nintendo's always been a little on the sleazy side with respect to investors, which is the entire reason the corporate restructuring to include audits and a more Western officer system is being instituted.
The Wii U? Shit, I got burned hard on the GameCube and Nintendo still hasn't released a console good enough for me to buy since 2005 (their handhelds are another story however).
Burned? I've bought over 30 retail games and numerous indie games. It is my most played console. Granted I love the games Nintendo makes, but I don't feel burned at all with my day-1 purchase.
I've bought 8 games for Wii U and my most played game is Wind Waker remastered.. which is a game I'd already played 3 times on the Gamecube. I've been burnt to a fucking crisp by the Wii U.
What does all this mean for third parties that want to announce NX games at E3? Like, During Square's conference, even if a KH3 or new game, or a DQ11 was talked about and was coming to NX, they couldn't say a dang thing. Or Ni No Kuni 2. Same with other publishers.
I guess those publishers could come back for the reveal event...but dang.
I'm not saying 2017 is the wrong decision, but it'd be nice to have mindshare for some of these games if they're coming out for NX.
What does all this mean for third parties that want to announce NX games at E3? Like, During Square's conference, even if a KH3 or new game, or a DQ11 was talked about and was coming to NX, they couldn't say a dang thing. Or Ni No Kuni 2. Same with other publishers.
I guess those publishers could come back for the reveal event...but dang.
I'm not saying 2017 is the wrong decision, but it'd be nice to have mindshare for some of these games if they're coming out for NX.
I would hope they are allowed to announce NX games of their own. Nintendo confirming Zelda seems like a soft way to open the floodgates, plus we had Koei do the same thing by confirming they're planning to develop games for it. Be weird to have games be announced before we know anything about the system, but I think the gloves should be off now?
I would hope they are allowed to announce NX games of their own. Nintendo confirming Zelda seems like a soft way to open the floodgates, plus we had Koei do the same thing by confirming they're planning to develop games for it. Be weird to have games be announced before we know anything about the system, but I think the gloves should be off now?
What does all this mean for third parties that want to announce NX games at E3? Like, During Square's conference, even if a KH3 or new game, or a DQ11 was talked about and was coming to NX, they couldn't say a dang thing. Or Ni No Kuni 2. Same with other publishers.
I guess those publishers could come back for the reveal event...but dang.
I'm not saying 2017 is the wrong decision, but it'd be nice to have mindshare for some of these games if they're coming out for NX.
If Nintendo is smart, they'll allow publishers to announce NX versions of their titles if they want to. They obviously won't be able to show the NX version specifically, of course.
I'm in the camp that thinks that a March 2017 release date is a white lie to investors. As in, they can set that as their target, but at this point they're internally aware they never hit release targets anyway, so they're fully expecting to slip back to somewhere in the September or even October range.
I also think they probably started refactoring quite some time ago, which is why everything is so mum on the system and there's nothing to show at E3: they already changed gears completely and as a result everything they had is no longer remotely representative of the final product.
It's possible their leak control has just been commendable, but it's far more likely that there's nothing worth leaking because everything that was getting to a state where people were ready to start showing it off is having to be majorly refactored at this exact state in time. (As in, they already started, meaning they should be in a decent state by next Fall.)
Oh man. Oh man. If it slips back that far, I honestly will be speechless. Gag order tier. Although March is the end of their fiscal calendar, right? So that gives them some leeway, yet could they honestly be telling us one thing and telling their investors something else? Isn't that illegal?
I'm now starting to think they've probably done a full 180 on it myself, and I'm not sure if that's a good sign of confidence. I guess it would have to depend on how far back the reworking was done. If we're talking two years back, then cool. If just a year back, that's kind of worrying, but not terrible if it wasn't a complete conceptual revisioning. If they literally just started retooling this year, then things are gonna get very real (in a bad way) for a lot of folks once they finally do reveal what the NX is.
Wii U released at the end of 2012
Zelda U announced at E3 in 2013
Doesn't come out until next Nintendo console in 2017
Really good way to keep your fanbase! Nintendo is just blowing it right now. I have more faith in MS PR right now than anything that comes from Nintendo.
Nintendo's message to Wii U owners that purchased a Wii U largely because of the Zelda franchise: "Eat a dick and oops sorry."
Wii U released at the end of 2012
Zelda U announced at E3 in 2013
Doesn't come out until next Nintendo console in 2017
Really good way to keep your fanbase! Nintendo is just blowing it right now. I have more faith in MS PR right now than anything that comes from Nintendo.
Nintendo's message to Wii U owners that purchased a Wii U largely because of the Zelda franchise: "Eat a dick and oops sorry."
Nothing is guaranteed, you shouldn't buy any console for one game.
Plus, the game is still coming out for Wii U and that's the system it was primarily developed for.
