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Battlefield 1 Reveal Trailer, PC/PS4/XB1, Oct 21st [Up2: Screens, Info, Open Beta]

Like the setting but yeah...the tone makes me super uncomfortable. Seriously? Dub step seven nation army with dudes getting mustard gassed. Bleh
 
Not really. It's a game, I just don't understand how people can so easily be disturbed by something like this.

I'm not really oversensitive to this stuff, but when the goofy host is talking about how great it is to bayonet people, etc. I did cringe a bit.

I do wonder how the wars I took part in will be portrayed in the future, if we are discussing the ambiguity and morale reason they were started. The loss of life is grotesque no matter what the circumstances. We are talking about WWII deaths being justified because the Nazis were certifiably bad, but not every individual that was forced to fight for Germany felt that way. Hiroshima, Dresden, etc. You can't generically say something is right and wrong. As has been mentioned, it's how it's handled and portrayed. Hopefully we get a campaign video from Dice that sends a little bit better message.
 

Doikor

Member
I mean.. the Holocaust took place in WWII. What happened in WWI that made the events of WWII pale in comparison so much that there's a clear difference in making video games that take place in either war? Genuinely curious.

WW1 was for most parts a brutal meat grinder. You would have 100s of thousands of people dying in a few days for a few kilometers of a battlefield only to lose it next week. There are stories of people hearing their wounded mates crying for help in the middle of the night something like 5 to 20 meters away from them but nothing they could do to help due to snipers/machine guns of the other side killing you instantly if you pop your head up.

100 days offensive had almost ~1.5 million casualties in 100 days.This is in the same ballpark as Battle of Stalingrad but that took a couple months longer.

If you are interested in WW1 i highly recommend this youtube series https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar

The main issue in WW1 was that the tech was way ahead of the tactics for pretty much the whole war (towards the end both sides started to have their tactics in order but by that point the war was over and just a matter of time/more meat into the grinder)
 
Just saw it. One of the best trailers for a game I've seen in a long long time. Haven't bought a COD or BF in years, this is going to be day one.

Can't wait to see more at E3 :D
 
Don't you remember the first Bad Company? I hope it wasn't a fluke and they can actually pull of another good campaign.



It is the only really good one. I did complete Bad Company 2 but it isn't half the fun as the first game is.

It was 8 years ago and it was their first campaign(if I remember correctly), everything after that was consistently worse and worse. My expectations are very low but I'd love to be surprised.

I still can't fathom how they made BF3's campaign so boring compared to something like MW.
 

Venom Fox

Banned
You basically have to choose it as your role when spawning. You won't be able to just take a tank and use it as a personal transport.
Also Vehicles each have their own classes now, so a pilot will have their own class, tank driver will have their own class etc.

To be fair, it makes it a bit more realistic, would a sniper have legged it for a biplane and started a dog fight? No.
 

mcz117chief

Member
I'm not really oversensitive to this stuff, but when the goofy host is talking about how great it is to bayonet people, etc. I did cringe a bit.

I do wonder how the wars I took part in will be portrayed in the future, if we are discussing the ambiguity and morale reason they were started. The loss of life is grotesque no matter what the circumstances. We are talking about WWII deaths being justified because the Nazis were certifiably bad, but not every individual that was forced to fight for Germany felt that way. Hiroshima, Dresden, etc. You can't generically say something is right and wrong. As has been mentioned, it's how it's handled and portrayed. Hopefully we get a campaign video from Dice that sends a little bit better message.

Well said, mate. I totally agree with you.

I still can't fathom how they made BF3's campaign so boring compared to something like MW.

Yeah, I can't believe I never finished it. I always finish these big budget FPS games without any issues but I just couldn't find the enthusiasm to play that particular campaign.
 
Please DICE, make sure the game actually works on launch day. I don't want to wait 6+ months for you to fix bugs and glitches.

Also don't lock the FoV (PC) in SP like you did with BF4...

Thank you!
 

Mr.Mike

Member
I wonder what the campaign will cover. I'm hoping the first character you play is Gavrilo Princip, they could do the tutorial as him and all. And maybe they'll cover the Russian Revolution a bit.
 
Would be day one, but I still feel no where near the moneys worth on star wars battlefront.. So I'll probably just wait this one out for a while...

Stupid name though... Hopefully they got a lot of money from microsoft for going with something so silly..

Edit... I'm starting to feel weird about using real life people from wars as "DLC" and also a bit unnecessary... Who knows those guys might have been rapist and torturers for all we know... And even if not they actually had to suffer during the war... And now they are being abused as a form of entertainment for people who feel entitled... I don't like that. Real war is actually really awful.. Let's not mix the play war too much with the real thing?

The trailer song was off..
 

Yoday

Member
Ernst Junger's account of his experience fighting in WWI called Storm of Steel shows a different perspective, someone who believed in the war and found appeal in the nationalism and glory seeking despite the horrors.

The only book many read on WWI is All Quiet on the Western Front, which shows the anti-war perspective. There were certainly many during the period that saw this period, and war in general, as being mankinds' natural state, and the pursuit of victory as a moral imperative.

It's not a popular perspective in the 21st century to be sure, but at the time a different set of mores existed.
It's true. WWI was still a time when young men went to war for adventure. War was greatly glorified back then. WWI changed the very nature of war and how it was viewed by the public at large.
 
Also Vehicles each have their own classes now, so a pilot will have their own class, tank driver will have their own class etc.

To be fair, it makes it a bit more realistic, would a sniper have legged it for a biplane and started a dog fight? No.

The fuck? That sounds like shit.
Guess I'll stick to BF4 when I get the urge to play BF for another 3 years.
 

Venom Fox

Banned
The 1 in Battlefield 1 to me means that this is the "first" battlefield, it's set before BF:1942 . It's also the First World War.

The fuck? That sounds like shit.
Guess I'll stick to BF4 when I get the urge to play BF for another 3 years.
It adds an extra tactical element to the gameplay though. Become dedicated and play properly or just fail over and over again. It's brilliant to me, this coupled with the already hard to learn plane controls sounds awesome.

Tanks also have a learning curve now, each one has specific sets of skills to master. Light, heavy and medium tanks are all different. You can't apply the same skill set from a light tank to a medium tank and succeed.
 
That title is pretty dumb in my opinion.

Graphics looked great, I'm sure it'll play like a battlefield game. The setting is unique for sure (except for some smaller games like Verdun). I'm not sure that WW1 weapons and vehicles will play well in a game setting, but I've got to imagine they're going to take some liberties with historical accuracy.
 

Plum

Member
Basically now you have dedicated classes for tanks and planes alongside the infantry classes, and if you choose a tank you can't change that until you die.

Really great idea this. Making it so that idiots who don't know how to fly (i.e. me) can't just get into a plane, fly about with it for a few seconds for the rush then parachute out when it inevitably gets destroyed is great.

Will be very difficult in terms of balancing who and how many vehicle classes there should be at a certain time though.
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
I thought this would be an amazing thing to do, take a AAA game with a AAA budget and actually explore some of the more somber, sobering tones and idioms that we associate with war and really use the graphical and FPS fidelity we have in modern gaming to showcase the utter brutality and pointless violence that WWI was.

I think it's such a tremendously wasted use of the setting.

Who's to say that the campaign won't do exactly that? I mean, I don't think DICE will pull it off, going by their track record and the use of "adventure" several times to describe the singleplayer, but one can hope for a miracle.

It would be folly for them to use the game's multiplayer suite to attempt what you describe, because Battlefield MP has only ever been an arcadish, over-the-top action experience, and I'm certain that most fans of the series, myself included, would prefer it remain that way.
 

Stantron

Member
*Remembers all the previous battlefield campaigns

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That cat is adorable. :3
 
You have to be incredibly dense to take the word "battlefield" literally instead of the name of the franchise. You don't see the issue with it looking like BF3 and 4?

Silly argument. If by 'looking like BF3 and BF4' means it has pretty graphics, then I don't see what the problem is. We've barely seen any gameplay. It looks like a Battlefield game in a WW1 skin. What more could you have been expecting?
 

matt05891

Member
So apparently now you can't just change from a tank or plane into another or spawn as an infantry and then get into one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8udm-0mivDY

From 2:01. that would be quite the change.

I hope they allow you to at least exit a doomed vehicle. Just make it so all you have is a handgun. Allow no other classes to enter the vehicle. It would at least help a bit with vehicle camping in the spawn screen making it so the player could still be alive to give others a chance.
 

Yoday

Member
I wonder what the campaign will cover. I'm hoping the first character you play is Gavrilo Princip, they could do the tutorial as him and all. And maybe they'll cover the Russian Revolution a bit.
I would hope so. The assassination would make for a fantastic, and educational, first mission. I'd also love to see the Christmas ceasefire covered as one of the most human moments of the war.
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
No.

It's WW1 and there never was a BF1, only BF2, BF3 and BF4.

BF1 is the only right answer :)

Hm. Battlefield official channel, Xbox logo at the start, Xbox logo at the end, EA access push at the end.

Yeah I'm gonna go with MS having a say in that name and paying a decent price to do so. I'm gonna assume a heavy heavy MS link with this game a la Destiny and Sony. This will be marketed in a way where people won't even think it's on PlayStation.

Big gamble. Do people want WW1 that much to warrant this deal? Who knows.
 

SkylineRKR

Member
Battlefield 1 is sort of a nice name I think. Now there is a true BF1 I guess.

Battlefield Origins would've been too idiotic. And BF5, well, it seems that DICE is too afraid that people don't expect a WW1 throwback in a sequel to 3 and 4?
 

SomTervo

Member
I'm not really oversensitive to this stuff, but when the goofy host is talking about how great it is to bayonet people, etc. I did cringe a bit.

I do wonder how the wars I took part in will be portrayed in the future, if we are discussing the ambiguity and morale reason they were started. The loss of life is grotesque no matter what the circumstances. We are talking about WWII deaths being justified because the Nazis were certifiably bad, but not every individual that was forced to fight for Germany felt that way. Hiroshima, Dresden, etc. You can't generically say something is right and wrong. As has been mentioned, it's how it's handled and portrayed. Hopefully we get a campaign video from Dice that sends a little bit better message.

I couldn't help but think this. Once in the midst of gameplay, it won't be an issue, because gameplay is abstracted once it's in your hands - but the cinematic side of this stuff feels a bit inappropriate. Like "look how badass this is! Millions of people died in complete agony in a living hell! How cool!"
 
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