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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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Although it's early, I'm still partial to
|OT6| To Err is Weaver; To Forgive, Devine
DataStream
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The number of delegates depends on how Obama is feeling on that day.
Spoiled Milk
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GregLombardi
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lol, this got me.
Nevada Democrats: Sanders Campaign Has Violent Streak
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/nevada-democrats-sanders-campaign-violent-streak-39157813
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/nevada-democrats-sanders-campaign-violent-streak-39157813
Voysa Reezun
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I voted for Hilldawg in the Washington State primary this weekend, but I looked around and couldn't find if WA superdelegates were going to vote based on the result or what. Might someone here have seen if any superdelegates said anything about voting based on the WA primary results?
The sad thing is, if the shoe were on the other foot and this were a Hillary or Trump supporters, there'd already be a thread.
But I'm not making it lol
Tyler's finally posted.
I would be surprised if Oregon ends up like that.
The only thing worse than being phonebanked by a European is being threatened by one.
Technically we were judging delegates who were throwing chairs and calling in death threats, not random dumbasses on Twitter.
But anyway, please quote those images, it's very big.
User 85168
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a WA congressman (Jim McDermott) got threats because he's supporting Clinton while Bernie won the caucus. According to Wikipedia, all WA representatives, senators, and the governor are Clinton supporters. There are some DNC members left who have not declared, and Bernie has 0 superdelegates from WA.
Aaron Strife
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When these random supporters are delegates and/or showing up to state party conventions and engaging in violence and threatening party leaders' safety, and the candidate says nothing to discourage or disavow this behavior from his own representatives at state-level nominating functions then I'm going to judge that candidate like I damn well please, thank you.
DataStream
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To be fair, have you spent much time in Nevada?
Hillary's solo career stage name.
I agree that we shouldn't judge random nobodies by what is posted on Twitter. I reserve the right to judge candidates by the delegates that show up to represent them at official party functions, including the state convention.
Like, I'm mostly kidding. Bernie doesn't need to disavow these people to lose my vote. He lost my vote because he sucks. But more seriously, what the fuck. Every account of what happened on Saturday has been absolutely horrifying.
I totally think we need to incorporate elements of Bernie's platform into the Democratic party platform and I believe we should make every outreach possible to his supporters, but I also believe he needs to 100% discourage this stuff now. If he does not, I would understand if Hillary and the DNC chose to ignore him at the convention. I don't think it's WISE to do that, but I'd get it.
DrForester
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I really hope this primary season results in some streamlining and reforms in the primary process. Hillary won the caucus in February, the delegate issue should have been settled then.
shinra-bansho
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aspiegamer
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If I understand this correctly, Sanders people are upset with this woman because she closed the convention in the middle of a possible security threat, for a convention that had no further known business, and had allocated things out based on extremely precise counts of delegates from each candidate? So they're mad that the event ended after all the counting was over? Even if she had not pushed through a dubious voice vote, what else was there to do?
They should just get fucking rid of caucuses.
User 85168
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The pot calling the kettle black or something. Good for a laugh, no?
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
At least he's not the butcher of Benghazi! HA!
The left can be unified. It has faced bigger schisms before and we know that most of these people will come around anyways. It happened in 08 and it will happen every other time. I was a Hillary supporter then, and I had to get in line. It's the way the party works, we have a bigger more diverse tent than the GOP and we have to be able to modify our platform to fit shifting demographics. I don't agree with the Bernie or bust people for the Same reason I don't agree with you. We can always find common ground with the majority of liberals, that's why the dems aren't in danger of a real split. We can do it because we've done it many times and there is no reason to think this year is any different. We will unify the party and kick the shit out of the GOP in November. If that means we have to go all the way to the convention and modify the platform to include more progressive agendas then that's ok. We will have to pull them as they push and absorb them into the Dem ranks. That's how we beat the GOP, which is priority number one. We can sort everything out in 2017 after we take back the senate and secure the presidency again.
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We already know which one is actually credible
shinra-bansho
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No one needs to make outreach efforts to violent aggressive sadsacks who have nothing better to do than leave hatemail.
@ Melkr next time
Foreign policy consultant Donald Trump! Rolls right off the tongue...
and into the trash
Oh my God, what if it's halfway between both their predictions though. I'm not sure I could take it.
User 463088
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Today sucks. People who threaten violence suck. Delegates who aren't Democrats but think they can still be Democratic delegates are terrible. Everything is a mess. Dems are in disarray. Queen better win one tomorrow or I swear, I'll totally...um...I'll write a strongly worded letter. Tyler's a mess. Benchmarks is GOD TIER. Everything is terrible. Big wall.
Fuck.
Fuck.
excelsiorlef
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User 463088
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There is no defense for what the Sanders Delegates did at the NV convention. None at all. Absolutely none. I know we're not an organized political party, we're democrats...but still. That's not cool
aspiegamer
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So you're backing up my statement. Thanks for the info!
The revolution does not have time for TLDRs.
This is where I was last night.
Amazingly, I see folks trying to justify this behavior, as though throwing chairs, etc is acceptable.
I feel bad for sane Bernie supporters, but his continued silence on this issue is looking worse and worse.
And imagine the news coverage hellstorm we'd see if it were Hillaryfolk who were engaging in such acts.
VendettaRed07
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Finally ordered a Hillary shirt.
exactly. This wont be the last state convention with chaos. IA is in four weeks.
I think there's a chance Utah could potentially flip also, but even if it doesn't their should be a significant decline(around 20%) in the republican vote their compared to the last two elections. Trump may struggle to break 50% in that state in the fall general election.
I don't know if this has been posted in this thread yet, but Hilary's is planning to put bill in charge of economic revitalization once she's in the white house.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill...ing-economy-hillary-clinton/story?id=39132832
Those callers are confirmed delegates?
edit: zero callers indicated they were even at the convention
https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sample-voicemails-left-state-democratic-chairwoman-roberta-lange
I'd say these imply they were not at the convention.
Bam Bam Baklava
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