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I actually think this could be a controlled leak from Nintendo. To give people one aspect of the NX to talk about non-stop until the official reveal comes and there's a bigger aspect of the NX that was unknown up to that point.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's the case.

Let the hard core get their bitching and moaning out of the way now, so when they show it in September the buzz can be people that like the concept that missed these hardcore gamer news sites/forum buzz, and people on said sites talking about the games etc. since they already discussed their like/dislike of the concept to death (assuming the games etc. generate good buzz of course).

 

[BD1]

I don't believe that, do you have a citation? Even one person downloading one app would bring the average greater than zero. Either way the point is moot, a Nintendo cell phone isn't happening.

Source: http://qz.com/253618/most-smartphone-users-download-zero-apps-per-month/

However, I misspoke. It's not the average, but 65% of smartphone owners download zero apps a month. Only 7% download more than 3.

 

[TLZ]

I hope you are wrong because a cheap TV only version could be very big. They probably could do a TV only for 149.99 which would make it very family friendly price wise. It also would be price friendly for the core gamers as a secondary console. Right now they are shutting out a huge portion of the customer base because most don't want to pay for a handheld they would never use. I see it as leaving lots of money on the table in the west.

Fully agree. Been saying this myself too. Waste of screen. Waste of easy money. People would eat each other for this cheap device. If the screen is mandatory for home only users then we have the Wii u mistake all over again.

 

[psyfi]

If I was Nintendo, I'd work hard to get EA, 2K and Activison to get the console-feature versions of Madden, FIFA, NBA2K, WWE2K and Call of Duty on the platform.

Other than that, Kyoto shouldn't worry about AAA multiplats. Get the mainstream casual big hitters, and lots of Nintendo games.

All I want is Overwatch, honestly. I doubt it'll happen, though.

 

[KrawlMan]

Source: http://qz.com/253618/most-smartphone-users-download-zero-apps-per-month/

However, I misspoke. It's not the average, but 65% of smartphone owners download zero apps a month. Only 7% download more than 3.

Nintendo only needs to support the top used Apps (social , streaming , etc) Until something big hits the news or my circle of friends, I'm not gonna bother with the App Store.

 

[NeonZ]

Has anyone given a use-case as to how or why detachable controllers would be advantageous in what is otherwise simply a handheld console?

Local multiplayer with a single system and game. It's basically the big console characteristic that this setup would add.

 

[brainpann]

"Due to the radical change in hardware design and internal technology, we've been told by one source that there are no plans for backwards compatibility"

And.....?

As someone that never games on the go, I'd be quite disappointed if this turned out to be true. I hope the system is at least as powerful as the Wii U because otherwise I'd have no reason to get it except for the exclusive games.

Even if they only put the Tegra X1, it will be more powerful than the WiiU.

 

[sfried]

Even if they only put the Tegra X1, it will be more powerful than the WiiU.

I'm still finding it hard to believe an nVidia chip on a Nintendo console.

I wonder if Jen-Hsung Hwang will make a presentation about it if it ever bodes to be true (after Nintendo unviels it). Considering how many people here have vouched for their high end hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if this was what they meant by "industry leading chips".

 

[James Scott]

1, We don't actually know if the NX was pushed back.
2. He was wrong. Flat out.

The original rumor was probably true, he probably lost his source after foolishly releasing the marketing budget info so he's probably not worth paying too much attention too since he's just speculating at this point

 

[Portugeezer]

I'm still finding it hard to believe an nVidia chip on a Nintendo console.

I wonder if Jen-Hsung Hwang will make a presentation about it if it ever bodes to be true (after Nintendo unviels it). Considering how many people here have vouched for their high end hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if this was what they meant by "industry leading chips".

It could be a place holder chip.

I watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4AlnlYenc

Dude points out that Eurogamer said something similar about the 3DS using Nvidia chips with some "sourced" rumours in 2009... but it ended up using the PICA graphics core instead.

NX dev kits could be Tegra X1, but it may not be finalised.

 

[GhostTrick]

It could be a place holder chip.

I watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4AlnlYenc

Dude points out that Eurogamer said something similar about the 3DS using Nvidia chips with some "sourced" rumours in 2009... but it ended up using the PICA graphics core instead.

NX dev kits could be Tegra X1, but it may not be finalised.

It's known that 3DS used Tegra at some point but Nintendo backed off because it wasn't good enough for power consumption. There's even devkits in the wild.

 

[antonz]

It could be a place holder chip.

I watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4AlnlYenc

Dude points out that Eurogamer said something similar about the 3DS using Nvidia chips with some "sourced" rumours in 2009... but it ended up using the PICA graphics core instead.

NX dev kits could be Tegra X1, but it may not be finalised.

3DS had a Tegra2 in it until Nvidia could not deliver performance and power as promised. Early Tegra was a shitshow.

There is no alternative on the market in the power range Nintendo needs now. So it is Tegra or nothing. The good news is Nvidia got its act together with Tegra so they can deliver on promises now.

 

[Portugeezer]

Oh cool, yeah I think I remember now.

 

[GhostTrick]

3DS had a Tegra2 in it until Nvidia could not deliver performance and power as promised. Early Tegra was a shitshow.

There is no alternative on the market in the power range Nintendo needs now. So it is Tegra or nothing. The good news is Nvidia got its act together with Tegra so they can deliver on promises now.

There's also powerVR although Nvidia seems to be more power efficient.

 

[Vanillalite]

How likely is it that the NX when docked might support 4K and HDR like the XBO S?

The Tegra X1 seems to support 4K 60fps so the former maybe is likely? Dunno about the latter.

Other than HDR what's really the point?

 

[mikespit1200]

Given the talk of nintendos mobile games running on nx I wonder if they make AR a big part of the system. Obviously it won't be a phone or have a cellular connection but what's to stop them from using local map data pulled down over wifi?

 

[Doctre81]

Nintendo is stubborn as shit. It took them 10 days to even respond when Ubisoft pretty much leaking everything about the Wii U. Even then All Nintendo said was Project Café is real and we will tell you about it later on.

That's because E3 was less than two months away.

 

[30yearsofhurt]

6 inches is pretty big for a handheld.

That's what she said.

 

[TLZ]

I don't think that's likely at all considering we already know NIntendo are not chasing Sony or MS's graphical capabilities.

But that doesn't even matter,because Wii got tons of 360 and PS3 ports. Its not a matter of whether the machine is strong or not compared to the competition, but whether or not third parties see the use of investing resources in a port on the platform



THat was never stated either

That was stated in the first wsj article/twitter though?

 

[antonz]

That's because E3 was less than two months away.

True and we are in that potential window again for reveal so its very possible they wont say anything since they already confirmed NX exists. May just do radio silence until they feel like saying when the event is

 

[TLZ]

A handheld that has no screen of its own but that connects to a phone / tablet you already own would be one such use case.

There's something about this that I can believe more than a screen with 2 tiny detachable controllers.

Hmm.. The controller is the NX console. Can be therefore played using any screen. It doesn't compete with anything. In fact it takes advantage of the gazillion smart phones and tablets out there. This is much more intriguing.

I've seen this done before but I can't remember what it was. A small controller with emulators built I'm that connects to the tv wirelessly.

Edit: found these

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A6SVY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

http://www.dreamgear.com/my-arcade-plug-n-play-controller-with-200-games/

I'm more interested in this concept working with what we have than yet another tablet.

 

[twingloxx2]

Wouldn't it be cool if the NX not only had detachable controllers, but d-pads/circle pad/buttons as modules as well? This way the players themselves could arrange the inputs to better suit certain playstyles or genres. We know from the Iwata Asks on 3DS hardware that Nintendo experimented with a similar concept in the past. Thoughts?

Disclaimer: I didn't have time to read through the whole thread, so I apologize if this has already been discussed.

 

[Dueck]

How cool the gimmick is is less of a problem than a lot of people don't want a gimmick. If it wasn't for the success of Pokemon Go, I'd be worrying about Ninendo's future at the moment. I hated the Wii and I liked the Wii U, so what the hell do I know about success?!

 

[Boombloxer]

We are talking Nintendo here. If the NX is a Smartphone it won't just be yet another Smartphone. They won't compete with Apple and Google on who has the most apps in their store, that's not what they do. What I expect is first and foremost a gaming machine that also features a SIM card slot and a very basic Smartphone OS. I'd expect the bare minimum of must have apps (if you take a look at the data most people just use like 5 apps anyway). Your Netflix, your Twitter your Facebook etc. Then they'll include a very strict Kids Mode or something for obvious reasons.

Smartphone capability to me is to offer people a way to not take two devices with them. People who just use a few apps and maybe don't care that much about ecosystems. But of course they'd need a good camera, a good music player etc. We'll see.

You described the N-gage. Nintendo should get out of hardware before thinking about a smartphone.

 

[brainpann]

I'm still finding it hard to believe an nVidia chip on a Nintendo console.

I wonder if Jen-Hsung Hwang will make a presentation about it if it ever bodes to be true (after Nintendo unviels it). Considering how many people here have vouched for their high end hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if this was what they meant by "industry leading chips".

Well, considering the original 3DS was supposed to use Nvidia and that lots of sources are reporting Nintendo using Nvidia, I'm leaning towards this being true. Others in this forum can explain it far better than me but it seemscto rings true with all the rumors thus far.

 

[sfried]

It could be a place holder chip.

I watched this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4AlnlYenc

Dude points out that Eurogamer said something similar about the 3DS using Nvidia chips with some "sourced" rumours in 2009... but it ended up using the PICA graphics core instead.

NX dev kits could be Tegra X1, but it may not be finalised.

From what I understand, the reason Nintendo did not go with the first generation Tegra chips was because it failed to meet their power consumption needs, and Tegra consumed more than it initially advertised it would.

All the rumors suggested Nvidia was looking for a console contract, but needed to have a "winning design". Whether or not there were special deals they did with Nintendo, we may never know.

But what kind of weirds me out is that why the devkits would need an "overclocked Tegra", even as a placeholder? Woudn't a placeholder chip of the same magnitude as their target, but with much higher power draw, prove to do the same task? Do devkits need to take into account power draw when they can make sure the chip has a baseline performance that will consume a set amount? They are dev kits after all...

 

[Nostremitus]

You described the N-gage. Nintendo should get out of hardware before thinking about a smartphone.

When you give the basic description of the PS1, you also describe the CDi so both were obviously flops, because the CDi was, right?

 

[BDGAME]

A Brazilian leaker obtain these information in about NX two months ago:

- NX is a hybrid
- removable screen
- you can customize the control
- the chip is named Tegra N1 and it is more powerful than X1
- the price of screen is U$ 100,00 or 200,00,depending on the resolution
- controls cost U$ 50,00 each.
- you can put chips in the carts to expand the power (like in the Nes)

And he said some infos will be showing in July.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Wouldn't it be cool if the NX not only had detachable controllers, but d-pads/circle pad/buttons as modules as well? This way the players themselves could arrange the inputs to better suit certain playstyles or genres. We know from the Iwata Asks on 3DS hardware that Nintendo experimented with a similar concept in the past. Thoughts?

Disclaimer: I didn't have time to read through the whole thread, so I apologize if this has already been discussed.

Terrible and unfeasible.

 

[MuchoMalo]

VR eliminated with Reggie saying Nintendo wasn't going to do any VR until after it had already gone mainstream.

NES, Game Boy, DS, and Wii succeeded because Nintendo was a trendsetter. Now they just want to chase trends. 3D with 3DS, tablets with Wii U and NX. Nintendo has completely lost any and all vision.

 

[sfried]

NES, Game Boy, DS, and Wii succeeded because Nintendo was a trendsetter. Now they just want to chase trends. 3D with 3DS, tablets with Wii U and NX. Nintendo has completely lost any and all vision.

Err, I think Reggie got misquoted again. From what I recall, they mentioned they were aware of what's going on in VR, but they're still looking to find a way to make it fit within their philosophy.

As for the vision thing, I disagree very much. The very fact they aren't chasing after powerful hardware and they instead take risks to try something else shows they do have vision.
Pokemon GO seems to be one of their upstarts (in before Pokemon Company not being owned by Nintendo, etc, despite the fact the late Satoru Iwata was pretty much involved with it, as Miyamoto informed upon its announcement), so see where they go with NX will be interesting.

tl;dr - You're making hyperbole based on speculation. I'm still skeptical they would even go with nVidia, and if they do...well, the questions can only get more interesting from there...

 

[Spinluck]

Hopefully it's lower. 6 inches is too big for portability.

Come on man, I always see people with big ass phones, tablets, and even laptops in public.

 

[Aters]

Wouldn't it be cool if the NX not only had detachable controllers, but d-pads/circle pad/buttons as modules as well? This way the players themselves could arrange the inputs to better suit certain playstyles or genres. We know from the Iwata Asks on 3DS hardware that Nintendo experimented with a similar concept in the past. Thoughts?

Disclaimer: I didn't have time to read through the whole thread, so I apologize if this has already been discussed.

So cool. I like this idea a lot.

 

[TLZ]

A Brazilian leaker obtain these information in about NX two months ago:

- NX is a hybrid
- removable screen
- you can customize the control
- the chip is named Tegra N1 and it is more powerful than X1
- the price of screen is U$ 100,00 or 200,00,depending on the resolution
- controls cost U$ 50,00 each.
- you can put chips in the carts to expand the power (like in the Nes)

And he said some infos will be showing in July.

That was BS mate.

 

[BDGAME]

That was BS mate.

Why?

 

[March of the Crabs]

That was BS mate.

It actually echoes almost everything Eurogamer said but 2 months earlier. Could be a lucky guess. Probably isn't.

 

[BDGAME]

It actually echoes almost everything Eurogamer said but 2 months earlier. Could be a lucky guess. Probably isn't.

Too lucky for me...

 

[Dark Cloud]

I need a whole summary of all the eurogamer news with this "new" old news lol. NX driving me wild

 

[Elfforkusu]

It actually echoes almost everything Eurogamer said but 2 months earlier. Could be a lucky guess. Probably isn't.

The Tegra N1 leak(?) was from a 2ch post from June 2015(!)

 

[March of the Crabs]

The Tegra stuff was from a 2ch post from June 2015(!)

What the hell is even going on anymore!?
Soon we will find out the NX has been out this whole time.

 

[KingBroly]

What the hell is even going on anymore!?
Soon we will find out the NX has been out this whole time.

THE NX IS IN THE ROOM WITH YOU!

 

[Yoshi]

Wouldn't it be cool if the NX not only had detachable controllers, but d-pads/circle pad/buttons as modules as well? This way the players themselves could arrange the inputs to better suit certain playstyles or genres. We know from the Iwata Asks on 3DS hardware that Nintendo experimented with a similar concept in the past. Thoughts?

I really like the idea. My colleague made his own drawing:

And the idea of a magnetic connection could maybe be combined with that, in the sense that the individual parts cannot be removed, but the controller parts can be attached flipping it by 180°. On 3DS, the d-pad is rather uncomfortable to use, on Vita the left stick is, I would love if NX allowed for comfortabel 2D and 3D controls due to different configurations.

 

[KingBroly]

The only way the whole 'brains being in the controls' part work is if it can connect to any Phone/Tablet.

 

[malboroking]

Too lucky for me...

His "leaked photo" was two raspberry pis. It was total bunk.

 

[Dmax3901]

His "leaked photo" was two raspberry pis. It was total bunk.

He was using that photo as an example of what it's like, not as a photo of the NX itself.

 

[Ricerocket]

His "leaked photo" was two raspberry pis. It was total bunk.

He didn't say that was the NX.

 

[Dark Cloud]

His "leaked photo" was two raspberry pis. It was total bunk.

It's just an example man.

 

[Griss]

Wouldn't it be cool if the NX not only had detachable controllers, but d-pads/circle pad/buttons as modules as well? This way the players themselves could arrange the inputs to better suit certain playstyles or genres. We know from the Iwata Asks on 3DS hardware that Nintendo experimented with a similar concept in the past. Thoughts?

Disclaimer: I didn't have time to read through the whole thread, so I apologize if this has already been discussed.

This is what I've expected since the Eurogamer leak. There's no way the two detachable controllers can each work separately and as part of one large controller otherwise.

For the controllers to work separately, they must be identical. Or capable of being identical. To provide a modern control experience, they must NOT be identical. Or capable of not being identical.

Therefore the controller must be modular in some way, imo. Perfect illustration, great job.

 

[alr1ght]

If all this turns out to be true, if they dont make a forever docked version without the screen and detachable handles for cheap, well Nintendo is crazy.

 

[ryohumar]

I think the key is in that Supplemental Computing Device patent, which will be granted in August, according to some sites.

I think the NX will be a tablet that can benefit from upgraded memory/GPU/storage, etc by connecting it to this SCD thing, which I'm betting is the dock EG referred to.