MisterHero
Super Member
How does BotW's map scale with Zelda II's?
please please PLEASE share landmarks with Zelda I and II
please please PLEASE share landmarks with Zelda I and II
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Zelda: Breath of the Wild map size: 12x Twilight Princess, a tad smaller than XCX
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ajfoucault
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The fact that FF XV has taken like 10 years being developed makes the map thing unimpressive. Now, Zelda BotW being a relatively newly developed game and having such a massive map is truly enchanting. Can't wait.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I agree with this. I'd take a small but well-designed map like Bullworth from Bully over a huge empty map like Just Cause 2 every time.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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All bumps of old threads suck unless they are accompanied by a link.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Yes but Zelda can't jump.
Roto Prime
Banned
Nintendo will show all noobs how to make a perfect Open World Game <3 I hope Zelda BOTW has expansion like Elder Scrolls 4 does with even more land to explore! Also next Mario game needs to be open world! Mario Kart 9 toooooo
Yup, the overwhelming majority of open world games boast massive areas but are woefully thin on filling said space with decent content. It's really soured me on them and any developer going on about "our game is X times this other game". Oh, and as several people have already brought up: traversal becomes the main thing you do in these worlds because they're so fucking big.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Capitan Zeda.
Always-honest
Banned
this. Large sized maps are not always fun.
yup. quality over quantity every time.
Majora's Mask's overworld never felt small because it was so alive.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
He's jumped in a lot of the games.
BotW is at least 5 years old. Certainly not new. Still pretty excited.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Only by using Roc's Feather though, right? Or when he runs off a ledge and auto-jumps.
TheCongressman1
Member
Not in BotW, just jumps.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
But it hasn't.
Link has a jump button in Zelda II and BotW.
Neoleo2143
Member
Pretty much nothing is automated in this game. Not even jumping.
Anyway, if the game is about as dense as the Great Plateau overall, we'll be fine. The gameplay variety looks very strong between Combat, Climbing, Puzzle Solving with the engine, traversing using shield surfing and finding secrets, a little platforming here and there. I don't think your fingers will be resting for too long.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The next new footage will be when the NX is revealed I'd strongly think.every time this thread gets bumped you guys break my heart.
Breath of fire R.I.P
Sectorseven
Member
But how many hours of gameplay is there?
I can't justify a purchase less than 80.
I can't justify a purchase less than 80.
Don't fret, there will be no warping. Also a Phantom-Hourglass style temple, nay, two! And lots of mining.
El-Pistolero
Member
The strongest 2017 GOTY contender, and a reason enough to get the NX.
Dark Cloud
Member
Why are people picking on Zeldas open world?? Give me a break. Nintendo showed us a little demo. Open world games like this don't have to be full. Its got plenty of shrines and will have towns.
RareFantasy64
Member
Concerning the size of the overworld I just want strong NPC interaction, more than one town and engaging sidequests
This game will be system-seller. And if it finally comes out on NX release...easy cash for Nintendo and the best console launch in history.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I kind of like the sparse nature of it so far.
I could see how some might find it boring but it seems like an actual world.
I'm sure there will be busier sections than what they showed though.
Dark Cloud
Member
This game is the new OoT for next generation. It WILL sell NX systems easily. I can see it being a GOTG candidate.
I love it. It's nature and Link on his own fending for himself without knowing what's going on. Who knows how the towns will appear? Maybe we'll rebuild the world or jump in time to civilizations.
dragonzdogma
Member
right, also did we get TGS footage for this game?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Just needs one or two other big games at launch and it will be impactful.
This map is going to be empty as hell, isn't it?
They absolutely do. The thing that trips up open world games is when they make you traverse through miles and miles of terrain doing next to nothing. Who cares if you have the largest map in existence if there's nothing to do, or the distance between interesting things is so large that it's annoying to get to them? That's what pushed most people who quit Wind Waker away, hours upon hours of sailing to find nothing of importance.
They absolutely do. The thing that trips up open world games is when they make you traverse through miles and miles of terrain doing next to nothing. Who cares if you have the largest map in existence if there's nothing to do, or the distance between interesting things is so large that it's annoying to get to them? That's what pushed most people who quit Wind Waker away, hours upon hours of sailing to find nothing of importance.
so this
seems mandatory to me
I'd hope a flying animal companion is in, if the engine can handle it. Surely fast travel of some kind, though.
Agreed! Majora's overworld has yet to be topped for overworld density and simultaneous cohesion and diversity of world. I mean, the 3 day cycle really let them do some special things with the world.
I believe Skyward, which mostly was not open world, had 60+ hours to 100%, so I imagine at least as many hours of fun will await here if you go for 100%.
I sure hope it does. Imagine how great masks in general would be for interacting with this world.
Please, don't pronise me this specific greatness and then disappoint.
Same here. Engaging sidequests are crucial to me. I imagine they're present, though.
Dark Cloud
Member
I agree with this for Japan since they don't seem to care about Zelda as much. I do think MH5 or whichever number they're on is going to be a launch NX game.
Nope.
Agreed, and then a sustained launch window.
FWIW, it seems at least as dense with content as any open world Zelda, and more so than some. It will probably depend on your definition of emptiness vs. intentional open space punctuated with things to do. It's too early to really know, though.
Neoleo2143
Member
I'm not sure that the Great Plateau is the best introduction for NPC interaction though the Old Man could exist partially on a schedule and does have some presence over the plateau.
The only reason they would have a detailed cycle for time would be for these NPC schedules.
Astral Dog
Member
Uh,i normally would agree but at least seems like this Zelda does alot of new gameplay stuff too.so it could turn very gold, much better than XCX at least.