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[Brerlappin]

At this point the fallout of this game has probably provided more entertainment than the game itself. In all my years of gaming I'm not sure I've ever seen such a high profile, anticipated game crash and burn quite so hard. Its this generations Rise of the Robots

 

[Schlorgan]

How is Battlefront compared to this?

Peaked at 5,800 today (on PC).

 

[Strootman]

No man's playing

 

[rdytoroll]

Probably the biggest heist ever pulled in gaming. It certainly is my greatest gaming purchase regret

#Murray'sEleven

 

[Alexm92]

Lol I hope other devs take note

 

[Poohblaster]

The first DLC for NMS will change the title screen's theme to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

Does the game still have that issue of deleting progress? Still interested in the game but not if my discoveries dont stay saved.

 

[Little Old Man]

So, is Sean Murray or anyone from Hello Games ever going to resurface? I can't believe there hasn't been a statement after all their lies.

They're based in Guildford, so it's time that they replace Peter Molyneux and Lionhead as the bait and switchers of the UK gamers industry.

Until their next game it's time for them to go under the radar.

 

[SpaceWolf]

That increasingly ironic game title...

 

[Pestilence11]

I understand everyone's feelings, but I think this is a bit of a shame. A perfectly pleasant, relaxing game throttled into irrelevance by atrocious messaging and mismanaged expectations.

I might mourn the NMS we never got, but I still enjoy the one we did.

It's a shame because what was promised wasn't really outlandish and would've made it a better game. I don't even mean the multiplayer aspect. I enjoyed my time with it but still feel burnt.

 

[Alpende]

At least Murray can now safely say players are gonna have a hard time finding each other.

 

[Qassim]

it's not that different if you compare to many other games on Steam.

Like what? Most games don't even get close to a 200k peak, and the ones that do basically are never sub 1000 just over a month on.

 

[RK9039]

All the other players got to the "center" and said fuck it. The remaining players are basically the Dark Souls players looking for the real use of the pendant.

 

[The Jackdog]

I understand everyone's feelings, but I think this is a bit of a shame. A perfectly pleasant, relaxing game throttled into irrelevance by atrocious messaging and mismanaged expectations.

I might mourn the NMS we never got, but I still enjoy the one we did.

i think a lot of people would of been happy with the game they got if that was the game they were promised

 

[Kindekuma]

They're based in Guildford, so it's time that they replace Peter Molyneux and Lionhead as the bait and switchers of the UK gamers industry.

Until their next game it's time for them to go under the radar.

Nobody will be wanting to buy their next game unless they address their fans. With each day, if not each hour that Sean doesn't say anything it speaks volumes on how he views his fans.

Anything, ANYTHING from him would be needed right now. Otherwise I don't expect them to make a dime on a new game.

 

[Kouriozan]

Most overhyped game of this gen?
That's a really quick userbase fall there.

 

[Creamium]

By the time they release an update, nobody will even care.

 

[Schlorgan]

Most overhyped game of this gen?
That's a really quick userbase fall there.

Definitely a contender for Most Disappointing.

 

[iHaunter]

Isn't this normal for games that aren't competitive FPS games?

I mean...this game is online-only.

Not like it's a single-player campaign that just ends.

 

[Totakeke]

How's anyone gonna find each other??

If less people played then Sean Murray would have never lied about multiplayer. You see, it's not his fault.

 

[dave is ok]

Elite Dangerous has definitely benefited from this fall.

 

[Durante]

I mean...this game is online-only.

Not like it's a single-player campaign that just ends.

Even games with single player campaigns that just end generally drop more slowly.

 

[dracula_x]

Peaked at 5,800 today (on PC).

in addition:

~ 1 week after launch

Over the past 24 hours, Star Wars Battlefront has seen a peak of 188,171 players concurrently online on PS4, says Player Stats Network, compared to 113,696 for Xbox One and 48,292 for Windows PC. The latter two figures combined are still more than 25,000 users short of the PS4 total.

source

~ 1 month after launch

source

 

[Pestilence11]

By the time they release an update, nobody will even care.

That's what I was thinking the other day. What's the point if everyone has already moved on? That's before seeing how drastic the drop off is already. I wonder how it's doing on PS4. It's a shame there's really no way of knowing.

 

[Fewr]

Finally Sean's statements about multiplayer make sense now.

The prophecies were true!! You unbelievers wait for the rest to rain down.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

It's been a month or so and they have done no post launch media/pr. It's like they want it to die. I guess they made their money and they want to move on to something else.

 

[SaganIsGOAT]

So glad I cancelled my LE Preorder. What a shit show lol

 

[Kazooie]

I'm surprised it's not lower.

 

[Felix Lighter]

in addition:

~ 1 week after launch


source

~ 1 month after launch

source

Yeah, that's a good example of a game that also notoriously fell sharply and puts into perspective how much worse NMS plummet was. NMS is in a league all it's own.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Maybe this was Hello Game's PR strategy all along.

Stay silent until nearly nobody is playing the game, at which point there is no longer anyone there to hear the PR.

 

[Fabtacular]

Sadly that game probably will keep me from preordering an indie game at full retail price ever again. Shams really.

I don't see why it should.

There were red flags all over the place with NMS.

Consider that with Gears of War 4 MS flew press in from all over the country and gave them 20 hours of play time over the course of three days. That was for a game with a 10-hour campaign and a handful of multiplayer maps. That's a ton of exposure for a game without a ton of unique content.

With NMS, they barely let anyone play anything. And they basically gave the same brief demo over and over again for three years. The excuse was not wanting to "spoil" anything, which was manifestly inconsistent with the idea that the game was filled with virtually endless worlds and variety.

I mean, there was a reason that GAF had multiple threads over "what do you do in No Man's Sky?" On one side there were the true believers who clung to every vague statement made by Sean Murray and baselessly expanded upon them. On the other side were more grounded people who refused to believe in things that they hadn't seen.

Think about it: Every demo was "land on planet. Blast some rocks. Name something. Maybe blast some animals. Maybe get shot by robot police. Leave planet." That ended up being basically the entire game! The only thing they really hid from us was the interactions with the aliens. And of course they'd hide that. It looked like a damn PC game from the 90's, with a static image of an alien and a text box with multiple choice answers! (Them hiding this portion is, to me, the most damning evidence that all of Sean Murray's exaggerations were in bad faith.)

The lesson here isn't "don't pre-order full-price indie games."

The lesson here is "if something sounds too good to be true, and they're telling you rather than showing you, don't believe it."

 

[Schlorgan]

The lesson here isn't "don't pre-order full-price indie games."

The lesson here is "if something sounds too good to be true, and they're telling you rather than showing you, don't believe it."

Word.

 

[mattiewheels]

Probably the biggest heist ever pulled in gaming. It certainly is my greatest gaming purchase regret

#Murray'sEleven

All I see here is a bunch of people who played themselves. Probably the most embarrassing example of hype biting everyone in the ass, and lopsided scapegoating I've ever seen.

 

[Harp]

here is the bottom of the top 100 on steam right now, for some sort of reference:
3,749 4,218 XCOM 2
3,679 3,973 Batman™: Arkham Knight
3,633 3,812 Empire: Total War
3,555 3,555 Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer
3,344 3,501 METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN
3,341 3,749 Titan Quest Anniversary Edition
3,326 3,997 Football Manager 2014
3,310 3,537 Riders of Icarus
3,289 3,372 AdVenture Capitalist
3,268 3,635 Space Engineers
3,267 3,462 Medieval II: Total War
3,216 3,847 Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition
3,215 3,352 The Forest
3,180 3,180 Prison Architect
3,099 3,533 Kerbal Space Program
3,062 3,202 Grim Dawn
3,004 3,332 Pro Evolution Soccer 2017 Demo
2,982 3,080 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Multiplayer
2,973 2,973 Shakes and Fidget
2,969 3,344 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
2,953 2,953 Total War: SHOGUN 2
2,842 3,007 Evolve Stage 2
2,782 2,903 Knight Online
2,773 3,357 BioShock Remastered
2,769 2,903 Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Steam Edition
2,765 3,227 Killing Floor 2
2,764 2,849 F1 2016

Wow PC gamers hare the very definition of a vocal minority.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

Not terribly surprising. Multiplayer games are PC Gamers' bread and butter. With no multiplayer, No Man's Sky didn't stand a chance.

 

[Irishonion]

Meh, I got about 10 or so hours of enjoyment out of it. Sold it back for 35 while paying 42.

 

[Alebrije]

Glad that sold the game and recovered 30 dollars. I played it but the glitches and repetitive gameplay made it not worth to keep it.

I think this game will be free on Plus soon, so will keep my save game.

 

[pj]

Yeah. I feel like a lot of people will use this to fit the narrative they have painted in their own mind.

Sure the game has had a huge backlash...but graphs like that are what I also thought was the similar trend most games would see barring huge MMO's

And the evidence-less narrative you have in your mind where this is totally typical of games is better because ..?

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Does the game still have that issue of deleting progress? Still interested in the game but not if my discoveries dont stay saved.

Pretty sure it turned out that guy (and others) weren't actually online during those discoveries so their uploads were never saved.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

The lesson here isn't "don't pre-order full-price indie games."

The lesson here is "if something sounds too good to be true, and they're telling you rather than showing you, don't believe it."

I'm not quite sure why this lesson needs to end with indie games. You shouldn't pre-order anything anymore.

 

[WaterAstro]

Welcome to every game that isn't multiplayer focused.

Mankind Divided also dropped from 50 thousand to less than 5 thousand.

 

[alfredofroylan]

So, how long until it hit the bargain bin?

 

[johancruijff]

lmao, wow

Don't you dare badmouth the best football manager

 

[NoPiece]

Some games more people are playing than NMS:

Eve Online
Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag
Far Cry 4
Far Cry 3
Freestyle 2: Street Basketball
Football Manager 2012

Never heard of Freestyle 2: Street Basketball. It is a F2P game with 3,692,234 owners according to SteamSpy.

 

[Hockeymac18]

Just saw this on Reddit. I wonder what the PS4 numbers are looking like considering it was the second biggest PS4 launch after Uncharted 4.

Would be curious to see, too - but as you mention, it looks like it's still selling a lot still, so probably doing OK on PS4. Hello Games' reputation might be ruined, but they made a crapton on this game - and they don't make any less/more depending on how long you play it, so I doubt they really care (much).

 

[VaultBoy101]

Some games more people are playing than NMS:

Eve Online
Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag
Far Cry 4
Far Cry 3
Freestyle 2: Street Basketball
Football Manager 2012

Clearly what NMS needed was towers to climb on each planet that revealed the rest of the map, but instead of uncovering missions and points of interest it would reveal that everything else was just as barren and dull as the first bit.

 

[Mega]

I don't see the dev supporting this game much longer if the numbers are that low. Looks like all of those promised features might end up in NMS 2.

Will there be a NMS2? The franchise has become synonymous with so much negativity that it feels like a bad idea to stick with the brand and make a sequel. It seems best for them to move on to something entirely new and not associated with this disaster.

 

[Armaros]

Welcome to every game that isn't multiplayer focused.

Mankind Divided also dropped from 50 thousand to less than 5 thousand.

NMS went from 200k to under 1K in a month and a half.

There are older non-mulitplayer games with less successful launches that still have more players

 

[Durante]

Welcome to every game that isn't multiplayer focused.

Mankind Divided also dropped from 50 thousand to less than 5 thousand.

That's a normal drop to 1/10th of the peak player base. That's the standard for most single player games in comparable time spans.

What we're talking about here is a drop below 1/200th of the peak player base, in less than 2 months, which is certainly exceptional.

 

[Abounder]

A $60 early access game without the early access dev feedback. Still can't believe that Colbert interview lol