worse case scenario for a game in 1080p is downsampling from 4k-ish which is supposedly still a decent boost in IQ
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Where is the hype for ps4 pro???
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it's been brought up in this thread more than once and a few times in the latest Xbox NPD thread. that's the most recent mentions fresh in my memory
AHA-Lambda
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Benzychenz
Member
I don't know enough about it to get hyped.
I don't have a 4k/HDR TV, so what's it going to do?
Are some 30 fps games going to be 60 fps? Are games going to look significantly better (like changing a PC games settings from medium to very high)? Are devs going to give me an option (What PS4 Pro mode would you like? >4k resolution >60 fps >better graphics)?
I haven't researched it at all but I don't think I should have to, it's Sony's marketing departments job to get the message out.
I think skipping E3 was a big mistake, if they showed it off at their E3 press conference I would have watched it there, but I didn't care enough to watch the specific unveiling event.
With how Sony has treated it so far it feels like it's meant to be a niche product so I don't feel the need to have a closer look. I don't know if that's true or not but it's Sony's fault that I have that perception.
I don't have a 4k/HDR TV, so what's it going to do?
Are some 30 fps games going to be 60 fps? Are games going to look significantly better (like changing a PC games settings from medium to very high)? Are devs going to give me an option (What PS4 Pro mode would you like? >4k resolution >60 fps >better graphics)?
I haven't researched it at all but I don't think I should have to, it's Sony's marketing departments job to get the message out.
I think skipping E3 was a big mistake, if they showed it off at their E3 press conference I would have watched it there, but I didn't care enough to watch the specific unveiling event.
With how Sony has treated it so far it feels like it's meant to be a niche product so I don't feel the need to have a closer look. I don't know if that's true or not but it's Sony's fault that I have that perception.
Possumowner
Member
I don't think they've got the message across to the general public yet regarding the differences between the consoles,at least not yet.
Daffy Duck
Member
I saw the funniest thing on the front of the PlayStation magazine at the shops yesterday it had the Pro in the front and the title was:
"Meet the machine that will revolutionise your gaming"
Lol OK.
For new games that come out. Honestly I'm a bit disappointed too, but I'm looking forward to newer games like FF15, BF1 and The Last Guardian looking better.
New games obviously. Pretty sure they didn't release the Pro just for people to play old games again.
The folks in this thread talking about how obvious the benefits of a Pro are and how they can't understand why people don't get it remind me of all the people who mocked skeptics of No Man's Sky or The Order: 1886.
They hype themselves up based on zero evidence and then claim they've been had.
They hype themselves up based on zero evidence and then claim they've been had.
wapplew
Member
Gravity Rush 2 Patch!
Daffy Duck
Member
No, they will save that for those 4K remasters.
"folks really oversell the performance boost the Xbox One S provides" was what you said. Who is overselling it? We know what the performance gains are and I don't know who is overselling it. What makes you think they are overselling it? To mention it or to make it look like a big upgrade in performance?
Marty Chinn
Member
Ya, I think people need to get their expectations in check. People seem stuck on more than double the GPU performance without factoring how much and how often that will be used.
Either do it right or don't do it at all. middle of the road old fare like Infamous get a nip and tuck but not other more notable games? Pffff.
in my casual usage of neogaf the number of times i see it brought up compelled me to make the statement that people oversell it. i don't have a paper trail of posts and names to back it up. if you disagree that's fine
UC4 and TLOU are getting Pro patches at least.
Poimandres
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99% of the people in this thread don't have 4K TV's... right now. But adoption is only going to rise as prices drop and content becomes more available.
How many people had HD TV's when the Xbox 360 launched in 2005? Was it a poor move to include 1080i support back then?
I think the concept is absolutely sound. It's basically a PS4 future proofed for the next few years, no more no less. It's the messaging that's been a little shaky.
Well yeah, Naughty Dog are the belles of the ball right now. They are like the hottest date you can get to go to the prom. It makes the most sense to give Uncharted 4 the Pro spotlight, especially.
It really hasn't been. The worst they've done is not outline how much it can do for 1080p display owners, most likely because all of that is entirely dependent on individual developers.
GinoFelino
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The hype is coming.
Sony had an entire new platform to launch!
It's not strange the focus has been on PSVR.
You'll start to hear a lot more about PS4 Pro in the coming month leading up to release.
Sony had an entire new platform to launch!
It's not strange the focus has been on PSVR.
You'll start to hear a lot more about PS4 Pro in the coming month leading up to release.
Then we are fine.
Brutalitops
Banned
There was only hype before it was announced. Sony killed it's hype by annoncing it.
Slim exists for a price sensitive market bringing more people into PlayStation
Pro exists at the same price as the launch PS4 as an option for those that want more power.
Isn't choice a good thing? This if you saying you don't have 4kTVs - it probably isn't for you (at least until we see more information around higher detail settings or downsampling). The launch pitched this squarely at 4k TV owners which seems fine to me - I don't expect every product to be made just for me.
The power seems to be just about enough to pull off this checkerboard 4K approach and do a good job of it. CPU increase isn't big so this was never going to be a magical 60fps console - it was always going to be more/prettier pixels at a similar frame rate. (Barring some edge cases where the original PS4 version was close to 60fps when unlocked)
terencecah
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I would buy a pro just for the faster loading times and for sata 3 for ssds
I don't even have a 4K tv
I don't even have a 4K tv
It's not that Sony botched up the reveal, it's that the reveal didn't live up to people's expectations. The speculation threads would shit out ideas like new game announcements (Red Dead 2), 60fps jumps for every game under the sun, etc etc. I did some speculating of my own too, but I'm not going to blame them for that lol, the specs were leaked months in advance and they delivered exactly that.
iHaunter
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I have a 4K TV, PS4 Pro can't do native 4K and doesn't have a 4K UHD player. It's worthless at what it's trying to be.
Skyrim Remastered at native 4K brother!
there's actually a decent list of native 4k games on the way. i was legit surprised
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Except it can. Do native 4k. There are native 4k games happening as well.
Anyway i have one pre preordered and it will be cool to get one to take advantage of my 4k tv as well as 1080p with better frame rates / visuals if the options there. But im not hyped. Its nothing like a brand new system.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
I have one pre-ordered and I wouldn't even say I'm particularly hyped. But there are a fair number of enticing games only on PS4 (or at least not-on-PC in one notable case) coming out in the near future and I want to play the best possible versions of them. It just feels like a thing I need to have, rather than something I'm excited to buy.
US =/= World
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I'm bookmarking this thread for Nov.
geordiemp
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Most people I know pre-ordered already.
What do you mean by hype exactly ?
Posting on GAF ? There has been many Pro threads on GAF, there is nothing left to discuss.
Magic Mushroom
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I'll be getting one for the 1080p improvements.
A 4K television will be further down the line, when they've improved input lag for OLEDs.
A 4K television will be further down the line, when they've improved input lag for OLEDs.
You dont know what Hype is.
this is 400 pages of Hype for the PS meeting conference back in 2013.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511056
Gradly
Member
I really hope so. If you watch the gameplay and trailers, Trico may or may not have much feathers on his tail. I hope the footage with rich feathers on the tail was actually a PS4 Pro version
I'm saying they don't care if you do it day 1 or day 100. Your OP in this thread was that Sony haven't done anything to market it to you, to make you want the console day 1.
Has it ever occurred to you they don't need to? First of all, long term money for Sony is in their exclusive library, which as an existing PS4 owner you're already buying. You can continue to buy those exclusives, and remain partially in Sony's ecosystem.
If the Pro doesn't appeal at launch, there's a whole Xmas line-up of games you can get impressions from. Come February, Horizon Zero Dawn launches, a game which I did or the will be a poster child for Pro in the new year.
There's all those opportunities for them to sell you the hardware. They don't need to do it now - you're an existing customer who isn't about to stop buying PS exclusives and who may we'll be inclined toward not wanting to be holding 'second class' hardware to play said exclusives on.
Magic Mushroom
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Not sure that is the case really. Especially if more people follow Tomb Raider's example of giving 1080p owners locked framerates and more graphical features or 1080p and unlocked framerates. Supersampling alone is worth it.