Have Nintendo ever used a third-party game in an initial console reveal before?
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Skyrim coming to Nintendo Switch [Maybe?]
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Have Nintendo ever used a third-party game in an initial console reveal before?
Ninja Scooter
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And you are missing my point, which is that until we see some evidence of some real meaningful support (and in case you haven't noticed, I don't consider a port of a 5 year old game that had probably already returned on Bethesda's initial investment times over) I don't think it's big at all. It doesn't neccesarily symbolize anything. The Switch could have the same kinds of issues as the Wii U and for all we know Skyrim could be the only Bethesda game it ever sees. A new IP, or even day and date ports, now that would be "symbolic". In the grand scheme, this is nothing.
Solid SOAP
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Symbolic or not, truly means nothing until we see more games. Why should I care about the Switch if I don't like Nintendo games, hypothetically? I personally do and am ready to play the next Mario and Zelda asap, but people are going to want more than 5 year old ports and aren't going to ditch a console that has every new game day 1 for a console that MIGHT get those games.
I'm excited that From Software is partnering with Nintendo too, I just need to see the games. Dark Souls 3 would make the Switch a must buy for me, really.
I'm excited that From Software is partnering with Nintendo too, I just need to see the games. Dark Souls 3 would make the Switch a must buy for me, really.
Yes, it's something minor. But it's something when they previously refused to do anything. That Nintendo managed to win them over period is significant.
I am more than willing to admit that this can easily change and Bethesda and everybody else will bail at the first sign of trouble, but it's silly to try and downplay the fact that something is different right now.
fabricated backlash
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SmoothRunningGun
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I was more excited to see From software on the dev list.
Gavin Darklighter
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Why show a 6 year old game? If they wanted something popular they should have shown something a bit more recent like GTA V or something.
Skittzo0413
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Um I don't think we're looking at the word symbolic the same way. Actual new games or IPs are much more than symbolic, they signify actual serious support. I'm using symbolic in the sense that Nintendo showing a Bethesda game in their initial reveal is them saying they are actively trying to court third parties, much moreso than with the Wii U.
We clearly don't know the extent of that support, but we barely know anything yet. This is a positive sign compared to their past consoles.
Ninja Scooter
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They could easily go from "supporting" to "refuse to do anything" again if the Switch lags out the gate, just like we saw so many publishers do last gen. Thus far they are committed to nothing but a port that probably costs them next to nothing (and that they can probably turn around and put on iOS and android). Nintendo's western third party relations have been so abysmal that a simple "gesture" or "symbol" means nothing. They are going to need to show some real, meaningful examples of support if they expect people to recognize a change.
Alebrije
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A Bethesta game on a Nintendo console is important message, specially on a lauch trailer. That is a fact other stuff is just speculation.
I'm still curious why this is a 5 year old bone. The remastered version is coming out soon on the PS4 and Xbox One. I could understand if there was no recent Skyrim game, but that's not the case here.
Given the assumed target market of the Switch (i.e. Male gamer between 18 and 35) it makes sense why Nintendo would pursue a game like Skyrim. The game still has a lot of active players so I think the game can do another 200k in sales, easy.
I don't think having a 5 year old game as a launch title is a good sign of improved third-party relations. Launching with (and spotlighting) an old software release signals to me that publishers and developers are not willing to make a large investment in the Switch. I'm confident that Bethesda can make the Switch version play as expected, but I'm not confident that Bethesda won't pull an EA and bail on the platform after a year.
I don't think having a 5 year old game as a launch title is a good sign of improved third-party relations. Launching with (and spotlighting) an old software release signals to me that publishers and developers are not willing to make a large investment in the Switch. I'm confident that Bethesda can make the Switch version play as expected, but I'm not confident that Bethesda won't pull an EA and bail on the platform after a year.
OrbitalBeard
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I'm sure this sort of thing will do a ton to drive hardware sales
Very few people will buy a Switch for this, but if you're already interested in the platform and are an Elder Scrolls fan, it's a good game to pick up with your new system.
Using Borderlands 2 on Vita is a really bad analogy. It's a horrible version of the game and Skyrim isn't going to be bundled with the Switch.
Aside from updates to online Rockstar is done with GTAV.
Because framing it in that light and not in the light of it being something that Bethesda is currently marketing as a newer thing makes it easier for console warriors to be dismissive of it.
Killer Queen
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100% sure it's Skyrim Remastered also don't see why people are already complaining. Id vouch that Fallout 4 will probably come with the complete edition of the game whenever that comes.
Solid SOAP
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The game itself is 5 years old. Yes, a remaster is coming out soon for PS4 and Xbone, but those consoles are also busting at the seams with 3rd party and indie support. Skyrim SE is coming our for them, but the console also has Fallout 4, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, Horizon, GTA V, Red Dead Redemption 2, etc for those who like open world games and RPGs.
Like the hat?
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Aaah don't do that to me. Portable fallout would be amazing, even if it is f4
Solid SOAP
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The list of developers has me cautiously optimistic, but I wanna see the games before I care. From Software in particular has me excited, but again, need to see the games. If I can get, say, Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3 on the console, that could tip me over to get the Switch instead of a PS4 for the time being.
We don't know much about games coming out for the system. However, this is a new game from them because it's a version of their most recent game. Based on their most recent tweet there are more games in the pipeline as well.
MillionStabs
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Don't worry guys, I speak fluent shitpost.
Roughly translated, it means "I don't like thing"
I studied it in highschool so it should be semi accurate.
You're applying logic to Bethesda.
Anyway, Skyrim is getting an updated rerelease on all platforms, and Bethesda has always been anemic in multiplatform output, let alone exclusives. I don't know what you're expecting from them, but this is more than what I was anticipating.
Ninja Scooter
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It's really not any different, just the names of the games and companies have changed. Nintendo has gone out of their way to "court" one or two publishers at a time in the past. That's never been their problem.
aygomyownroad
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Portable Skyrim, yes i will rebuy.
Now imagine portable Dark souls 1,2,3.....
From software, you want my money?
Bloodbourne 2 exclusive.. Do it Nintendo
Solid SOAP
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I hope and want to see more games, but this isn't a new game. Latest version, yes, but I have played Skyrim already. It is not a new game.
DirgeExtinction
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Interesting how DF speculated it could be 720p on Switch.
This was my first reaction to seeing Skyrim being used to demo the console in the trailer, it's a 5 year old game and I'm sure whoever has wanted to play it has already done so by now....
Exactly. And I'm expecting performance to be awful. Like framerate-wise. I have no faith in Bethesda to put in much effort here.
Killer Queen
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I don't have any insider knowledge but it's within the realm of reality, especially since its not like FO4 is technically impressive or anything.
Smiles and Cries
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Why did they give Skyrim such a prime spot?
This is the version without mods most likely
I might still give it a buy since my PS4 will also be limited
This is the version without mods most likely
I might still give it a buy since my PS4 will also be limited
GeordieMark
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That's what I was thinking too. It was an underwhelming way to show off third party support.
Iriscomeback
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Does this mean the Dragonborn will be in Smash? 
It's an immediately recognizable game that also shows that they have the support of a publisher that previously refused to work with them.
NeOak
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Sony owns that IP, so nein.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Yeah, seriously. As excited as I am about Switch, showing off Skyrim during this reveal is no more of an indication of breadth of western third party support than Mass Effect and Arkham City were for Wii U in 2011. Until Nintendo proves otherwise, there's no logic behind this stance.
It is a new game, though. It's there most recent release. Announcing Fallout 4 would have gotten the same reaction being the game is months old at this point and definitely would be older by the time the Switch is released. At least they're willing to throw a "new" release on the platform.
AcademicSaucer
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They do talk about studios in plural. Not expecting some overwhelming support but doubt Skyrim is the only game that'll come over either.
Give a new Commander Kee game for fucks sake
Grizzlyjin
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I think people have short memories, and are extremely optimistic because it's a big reveal day. But yeah...I don't see how this is any different than the Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, and Arkham City ports on the Wii U. Everyone was saying things would be different with those, but this screams "Wait and see" to me. We've definitely been down this road before. Who knows though, maybe some new third party support will get announced. But ports of remasters of last gen games doesn't exactly push me to want to purchase a new console.
The Technomancer
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Yup. This screams "Mass Effect 3 WiiU" to me
The ME3 comparison would only be apt if Bethesda were undercutting Skyrim Switch by releasing an Elder Scrolls Collection for the other consoles on the same day and at a lower price.
Kai Dracon
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Does this mean the Dragonborn will be in Smash?
I want to see this only because you know with Sakurai every costume color would change the character model to a different race so every playable race from Skyrim is represented.
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