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PS4 HDD speed test thread (HDD/SSHD/SSD/STD)

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berserk_ftw

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Moodz said:
I've been hesitating and reading reviews for 2 hours about a new hdd.
Can't decide between the HGST 1TB at 64€, the Seagate hybrid 1TB SSHD at 91€ and the Samsung/Seagate 2TB at 107€.
I fear 1TB won't be enough by the end of the year, but who knows? And I can always delete shit...
And I fear of the reliability of Seagate, not enough reviews are mentioning if they are using them for more than 6 months...

I'm horrible and always hesitating for shit like that.
GAF please help!
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I have the Seagate 1TB SSHD running since the release of the PS4 in December 2013.
Never had any trouble with it! Only thing now is that I had to delete the first games as it is almost full :(
 
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Moodz

Member
berserk_ftw said:
I have the Seagate 1TB SSHD running since the release of the PS4 in December 2013.
Never had any trouble with it! Only thing now is that I had to delete the first games as it is almost full :(
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I was going with this one but I just discovered the WD Blue 1TB Hybrid at 83€. I seems good but has a lot less reviews, I think I'll try this one.
Thanks for your feedback.
 
LordOfChaos

LordOfChaos

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Moodz said:
I've been hesitating and reading reviews for 2 hours about a new hdd.
Can't decide between the HGST 1TB at 64€, the Seagate hybrid 1TB SSHD at 91€ and the Samsung/Seagate 2TB at 107€.
I fear 1TB won't be enough by the end of the year, but who knows? And I can always delete shit...
And I fear of the reliability of Seagate, not enough reviews are mentioning if they are using them for more than 6 months...

I'm horrible and always hesitating for shit like that.
GAF please help!
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I've had the Momentus XT (though the second gen 7200rpm, not third gen 5400) for years, no issues. And there's a chart I think showing Seagates reliability going way up after their company spending spree snapping up other companies.

And the load time benefits are really the happy medium. Shaving 20% off minute long Bloodborne reloads for instance is a big deal, and an SSD only gets you a bit further.

I really really wish they kept iterating on their hybrid line though, I'd by the shit out of a 2TB with 16GB NAND.



Dahaka said:
hopefully the slim makes a change to S-ATA, uses Polaris (=lower energy consumption)

( ≖‿≖)
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It already uses SATA, just SATA II rather than the newer III, and over an internal USB bridge at that.


The Slim won't change GPU architectures, it will just shrink the existing one as is. Any major change in architecture could affect prior games in unforeseen ways.

When Microsoft made the 360 Slim GPU+CPU combo chip, they had to ADD artificial latency to make it as slow as the old one for a CPU-GPU round trip to make sure games were still 100% compatible.
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

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DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
despire said:
I have this and it's been great.
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I am going with that exact one, since my stock is an HGST 500GB. It is faster at 7200RPM as well, and quiet along with reliable. I am just waiting to upgrade when the Uncharted PS4 comes out, since I want to pick that one up, and sell my launch unit. If HGST does not come out with a 2GB version before May launch, then I am all over the 1GB one.
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

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Jigolo said:
Wow that's an even better deal. I've seen videos of how to install a new drive but not on how to back up P.T, can you provide a link on how to properly back up my stuff?
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http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/settings/backup.html

https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article/Upgrade-PS4-HDD/

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/features/how-to-take-a-backup-of-your-ps4-games-and-data-686575

You can also individually select which games/files to back up. So disc gamers with not so big patches I would not bother with. PT and a game like GTAV/Destiny or others with large patches, and limited bandwidth, I would back up.
 
Jigolo

Jigolo

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Strangelove77 said:
That hdd is also a bit cheaper right now at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4QESVQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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DeepEnigma said:
Good point, I forgot to post the Amazon link because BBY price matches, and usually head there first for the points.

When I upgrade I will have them match it, and just pick up in store.
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It's also on Jet for 59.44 atm where I get no tax and free shipping + a 10% email code.

Thanks again guys ordering this right now.
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

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Strangelove77 said:
Is this the same one?

https://jet.com/product/HGST-Travel...ATA-6Gbs-720/21b20e3cfc96490297ce727c6197b7d4

I've never bought anything from Jet, how is it? Safe?
They have free shipping and also have 15% off code for your first order, so you can get it for about $50. Seems too good to be true almost.
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Yes, that is the one. Click on my video link describing the site above, it explains how it works, and is hilarious as well.

Maybe someone can comment about them, I have heard of them, but never used them nor heard any red flags.
 
Jigolo

Jigolo

Member
DeepEnigma said:
Nice! Tell us how it goes!

Also going to browse around Jet. Thanks for the link.

Probably the best video I ever seen describing a store front, hahaha.
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Unfortunately Jet's search results are wonky as hell when compared to BB or Amazon so it's harder to find things even though they have most of the same stuff. (Though not as wide as a selection as Amazon or Best Buy)
Strangelove77 said:
Is this the same one?

https://jet.com/product/HGST-Travel...ATA-6Gbs-720/21b20e3cfc96490297ce727c6197b7d4

I've never bought anything from Jet, how is it? Safe?
They have free shipping and also have 15% off code for your first order, so you can get it for about $50. Seems too good to be true almost.
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Yeah, that's the one I ordered. I've used Jet only once for a monitor I purchased. It was the first time I used it and it was during black friday so they were going all out on crazy promotions. They had a great price on the monitor and were giving out 20% (maximum $50 off) your first order so I signed up. I think they are eating a ton of revenue at the moment with all the % off codes but they want to be the next big competitor to Amazon and they are trying to grow.

That being said a ton of people used them to order games and such this past black friday. I don't use them too often unless I have a good deal like this. This is just my 2nd purchase with them.
 
Strangelove77

Strangelove77

Member
Well I ordered my hdd from Jet yesterday. Now I just have to wait.

I was also under the assumption you could pick what you want to backup on PS4, but you can't. Not as far as specification apps and games are concerned. It either copies everything or just the bare essentials. Kind of a shame.
 
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despire

Member
Regarding SSD's, are there any games/situtations that benefit from the increased speed apart from shorter loading times? Something like better texture loading, less stutter etc? Slightly improved performance in a nutshell.

Also can I just copy/transfer my HDD to SSD via the PS4 application or is there some issues?
 
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AndyD

aka andydumi
despire said:
Regarding SSD's, are there any games/situtations that benefit from the increased speed apart from shorter loading times? Something like better texture loading, less stutter etc? Slightly improved performance in a nutshell.

Also can I just copy/transfer my HDD to SSD via the PS4 application or is there some issues?
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Games which stream from the HDD could benefit greatly. A lot of Unreal based games do this. People have noticed these types of improvements with SSDs, though the price of SSDs is still high compared to the benefits.
 
Strangelove77

Strangelove77

Member
I have a question- I'm going to backup my ps4 on an hdd inside an enclosure, if I take the hdd out of the enclosure afterwards and put it in my ps4 will it work?
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Strangelove77 said:
I have a question- I'm going to backup my ps4 on an hdd inside an enclosure, if I take the hdd out of the enclosure afterwards and put it in my ps4 will it work?
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No, the backup needs to be restored to a newly formatted HDD. So you back it up to an external HDD or a USB flash drive.
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Strangelove77 said:
Alright, good to know. Thanks.
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Anytime. Here is a post with links on how to easily install a new HDD.

DeepEnigma said:
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/settings/backup.html

https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article/Upgrade-PS4-HDD/

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/features/how-to-take-a-backup-of-your-ps4-games-and-data-686575

You can also individually select which games/files to back up. So disc gamers with not so big patches I would not bother with. PT and a game like GTAV/Destiny or others with large patches, and limited bandwidth, I would back up.
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Jigolo

Jigolo

Member
Got my drive a few days ago but holding out till the final release of 3.5 before backing up and changing the drive. So could be another week or two.
 
Strangelove77

Strangelove77

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Well I've had the new drive installed for almost a week and I honestly can't tell if it loads games faster or not. That's not why I bought the drive I did, but I just assumed it would make a difference.
I love having so much space though. It's great.
 
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Lrrr

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Which 3.50 software should I be saving to a USB? Sony provides two different links on their site. One to a 299MB file and another to one that's 800MB+.

Anyone have a direct link?
 
Jigolo

Jigolo

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Lrrr said:
Which 3.50 software should I be saving to a USB? Sony provides two different links on their site. One to a 299MB file and another to one that's 800MB+.

Anyone have a direct link?
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It's the 800-900mb one. I made the mistake of getting the smaller one but it wouldn't flash to the PS4. That's strictly the firmware update if your ps4 is already active.
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

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Lnkn52 said:
Is it worth it? I was going to get the following:

HGST - Travelstar 7K1000 1TB Internal SATA Hard Drive for Laptops (OEM/Bare Drive) - Black/Silver
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I am going with the HGST as well. The strange noises the Seagate seems to do (random beeps, sometimes loud drive) is making me leery. At least in the 8GB model people complained about.

HGST is also the stock drive (at least it was in mine), is super quiet and reliable (very low failure rates). Plus the 7200rpm speeds definitely make a difference in load times, as they did on the PS3 when I put a WD Black 7200rpm in it 7 years ago (time flies, wow).
 
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Maybesew

Member
DeepEnigma said:
Who has a 2TB 7200RPM drive that is 2.5" (9.5mm)?

Only ones I know of are only 1TB. Waiting on HGST to make a 2TB 7200RPM myself.
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I'm not saying it will never happen, but innovation in the HDD space is pretty much dead. Most laptops are moving to SSDs, and most HDD manufacturers either also make SSDs, or purchased SSD companies, so their focus is there.
 
ethomaz

ethomaz

Banned
DeepEnigma said:
Who has a 2TB 7200RPM drive that is 2.5" (9.5mm)?

Only ones I know of are only 1TB. Waiting on HGST to make a 2TB 7200RPM myself.
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No 2TB 7200rpm HDD? Outch.

So between 1TB SSHD with 32GB SSD or 1TB 7200rpm HDD or 2TB 5400rpm HDD?

Which is better for PS4?
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Maybesew said:
I'm not saying it will never happen, but innovation in the HDD space is pretty much dead. Most laptops are moving to SSDs, and most HDD manufacturers either also make SSDs, or purchased SSD companies, so their focus is there.
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Yeah, that is what I was fearing. Guess once SSD's become more mainstream, prices will drive down more than they are already.

ethomaz said:
No 2TB 7200rpm HDD? Outch.

So between 1TB SSHD with 32GB SSD or 1TB 7200rpm HDD or 2TB 5400rpm HDD?

Which is better for PS4?
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I personally went with the 1TB HGST 7200RPM, it is faster than stock, and from what I seen with the test results, was neck and neck with the SSHD at a much cheaper price.

If space is a concern, you can't go wrong with a 2TB, since it will still be a little faster than sock due to larger platter size per disc.

I just want Sony to have USB game support already. Then it will be even faster due to the USB3.0 bandwidth trumping SATA2.
 
W

witness

Member
Just ordered the 1tb HGST that is recommended in this thread. Will be here Sunday. Can't wait, there's so many games I can't download right now so this will be a relief.
 
hikarutilmitt

hikarutilmitt

Member
hitgirl said:
Just ordered a 1TB Seagate SSHD w/ 32GB NAND storage for my Ps3. Thanks for the info in this thread.
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PS3? Hopefully you don't have issues with it. Most of the time you put a 1TB into a PS3 (or anything above 500GB for that matter) it starts to exhibit problems.
 
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