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New Horizon: AMD New ZEN CPU Preview Event
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FrozenCell
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awesome, how much?
curiouscharles
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hard to see how any investor could come away from that with enough knowledge to know where to put their money.
but, i'm not an investor, so.... #whatdoiknow
i figured price would have been crucial.
also would have been nice to know whether it will be in scorpio, cause if it is, obviously it's a smart investment.
i just don't know.
but, i'm not an investor, so.... #whatdoiknow
i figured price would have been crucial.
also would have been nice to know whether it will be in scorpio, cause if it is, obviously it's a smart investment.
i just don't know.
Delusibeta
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Yea, AMD really shouldn't have bothered.
Still, I will wait for independant benchmarks. I would really like AMD to deliver on their claims here, the last round of graphic card launches have taught me that when it comes to PC components, company claims are worthless.
exmachina64
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lukeskymac
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Amazing promises wrapped around a shit presentation and no numbers at the end, not even price.
I sure hope Ryzen lives up to the expectations they set, because AMD is not in a position to have another Bulldozer/Piledriver disaster
I sure hope Ryzen lives up to the expectations they set, because AMD is not in a position to have another Bulldozer/Piledriver disaster
StereoVsn
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Sure they did. AMD CEO said it during investor briefing I believe. First random link off google.
http://digiworthy.com/2016/09/11/amd-zen-custom-socs-project-scorpio/
"At a recent press conference, AMD CEO Lisa Su is quoted saying they will work closely with Microsoft and Sony to jointly develop new custom-design SoCs that would be out in 2018. "
There are a lot more links for that but you can google it yourself.
I hope it's a bigger difference then that. First time in a decade when AMD has a decent processor and if it's only 20% less for similar or slightly worse performance I don't know if a lot of people will be interested.
BasedKiliK
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Decent passtime at work, but sheesh, what a waste of time to watch otherwise. No price, no real data, not even FPS measurements, WTF. Can't take anything here at face value.
What A Time To Be Alive
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Pretty much what I expected.
Happy to hear the TDP tho.
Numbers/Price coming at CES everyone knew that, this was just to hype up Zen which they get a 6/10 for :/
Happy to hear the TDP tho.
Numbers/Price coming at CES everyone knew that, this was just to hype up Zen which they get a 6/10 for :/
People not seeing the forest for the trees.
$1100 6900k 140W 8C/16T 3.2GHZ/3.7GHZ Boost is being matched by the 95W 8C/16T 3.4GHZ RyZen.
Regardless of their poor demos, this should be the real take away. There will be competition in the CPU market after over half a decade of intel dominance.
Now, it is too bad there is no pricing yet, but it is confirmed to be less than 4 months away. Q1 release.
$1100 6900k 140W 8C/16T 3.2GHZ/3.7GHZ Boost is being matched by the 95W 8C/16T 3.4GHZ RyZen.
Regardless of their poor demos, this should be the real take away. There will be competition in the CPU market after over half a decade of intel dominance.
Now, it is too bad there is no pricing yet, but it is confirmed to be less than 4 months away. Q1 release.
digitaldevmike
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So I need a new motherboard and cooler for this? Great...
LukasTaves
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I'm saying the report is very likely bogus. We had only one source saying that, and even that source made articles about rumors of Zen making it into Scorpio.
Compsiox
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I'd wait for benchmarks.
No price, so I remain skeptical. If they could perform better at a lower wattage than the 1100 bucks Intel... they would scream it off the rooftops if they had a lower price. Something tells me that in Europe it is the same crap as with the RX480. The Geforce GTX 1060 is just a better card for a lower price 
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Colour me (an AMD Fan) sceptical... until they announce a price.
. Colour me (an AMD Fan) sceptical... until they announce a price.
What A Time To Be Alive
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Obviously, this is new architecture for AMD meaning new board.
I dont think you need a new cooler though....
Tomasoares
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No numbers, no deal.
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Deleted member 144138
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"Look we are as good as Intel, but at a lower price!"
No price announced...
Why?
No price announced...
Why?
StereoVsn
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That is great for sure. Price and availability will be key Also, Intel could cut pricing of that chip to $600-$700 tomorrow and not even blink so hopefully AMD has its ducks in order but certainly if everything as great as shown they will force Intel to blink... especially if they get the server components right.
Tripolygon
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Pretty much, and CES is right around the corner so of course they won't announce price here. CES is where a lot of new notebooks will be revealed.
Also, Lisa said Ryzen will START at 3.4GHz, so there's no way their cheapest CPU starts even close to $1k.
This. Even if it doesn't end up beating intel I think it's time I give AMD a chance. I hope this is around the 300 up/down when it launches.
blu
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Oh, people are surely seeing the forest, alright. It's just the junior-high 'gang-on' mentality that prevails on anonymous message boards.
In 2 handpicked number-crunching benchmarks.
When they went to games they didn't show numbers and showed a very specific use-case in streaming Dota and compared it against a 4 core Intel cpu - i wonder why ...
Papacheeks
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Same.
I'm ready to go all out Team red again like I did back in the day with my my AMD64 Athalon 3500+ new castle, which was then followed up by a opteron.
It could be they plan to price it near that 4 core Intel processor... ? Count me in if true.
Wanna bet? Otherwise they would have announced it with an option to preorder. They would have screamed it off the rooftops. With the other prices for the lower tier ones (4 core and 6 core) announced later at CES.
You'd get soooo many impulse buys if you'd go "All of this will be available to you in February FOR THE PRICE OF 400 DOLLARS! Place your preorder here today to be certain you are ready for 4K gaming!".
But nope... I remain sceptical. No price tag.... not impressed.
CarbonFire
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Ryzen is easily copyrightable, "Zen" is not.
....but maybe they should have picked a name that didn't sound like a chemical warfare agent.
Handbrake is widely used. That blender test is a dubious repeat but AMD is even offering files for people to compare.
That streaming demo had 3 stations, including a 6900k setup to show the contrast.
But yes, obviously wait for benchmarks.
well hopefully they will price it for $600 and start some competition going... but yeah, thats not how it works. Intel has to maximize their profits to please its investors (and lately they are not pleased), so Intel is not going to run AMD out of business by underpricing their cpu's.
But with this tdp, which is basically 6700k range, looks like AMD will provide some serious competition for Intel by the time 2017 finishes.
Frankfurter
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No price, so I remain skeptical. If they could perform better at a lower wattage than the 1100 bucks Intel... they would scream it off the rooftops if they had a lower price. Something tells me that in Europe it is the same crap as with the RX480. The Geforce GTX 1060 is just a better card for a lower price
Colour me (an AMD Fan) sceptical... until they announce a price.
RX480 and 1060 have pretty much the same price, though? And arguably by now RX480 is the slightly faster card, also with more VRAM for the future.
Paul's Hardware had the same demos at an event in CA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQjh47PPXQ
He said on the handbrake test, idle power draw ~15W less on Ryzen, load power draw was 3-4W less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQjh47PPXQ
He said on the handbrake test, idle power draw ~15W less on Ryzen, load power draw was 3-4W less.
I liked the concept behind today's presentation, but it was executed quite poorly. 5/10.
Having said that, i am beyond excited at what this means for CPU's, pricing and competition in general moving forward. If they finally have a product that is comparable to intel, and is hopefully priced better, how can anyone not be happy about that? The recent thread on here about CPU's remaining stagnant certainly allowed AMD to catch up. Cautiously waiting for reviews and benchmarks.
Also very exciting is that these chips are a glimpse of the components/performance we might see in the PS5/XB2 next gen. Compared to jaguar cores, assuming ryzen is close to a 6700k in performance, that would almost feel like a two generations leap in CPU performance... the chips being 95 watts bodes well for the future.
Having said that, i am beyond excited at what this means for CPU's, pricing and competition in general moving forward. If they finally have a product that is comparable to intel, and is hopefully priced better, how can anyone not be happy about that? The recent thread on here about CPU's remaining stagnant certainly allowed AMD to catch up. Cautiously waiting for reviews and benchmarks.
Also very exciting is that these chips are a glimpse of the components/performance we might see in the PS5/XB2 next gen. Compared to jaguar cores, assuming ryzen is close to a 6700k in performance, that would almost feel like a two generations leap in CPU performance... the chips being 95 watts bodes well for the future.
martino
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if they do it and can do same kind of thing with vega, i will gladly come back to full amd next year on a new rig.
They will have to, believe me I'm a HUGE AMD fan.. but i'm just worried that they didn't announce a price for their top model. Something tells me we are looking at a VERY expensive CPU in Europe. I mean look at their RX480, due to the Bitcoin miners buying them up we have to pay more for those than 1060's from Nvidia. Heck they are sometimes close to a 1070 if you go for the 8GB version of the 480.
I'm not paying 1100 bucks for an AMD CPU, I will be very willing to just stick with my old one then.
There's no reason to announce price now, it does not make a good business decision. Let's say this thing comes out in Feb/march and they announced the price today for 600US. There is not a single thing stopping Intel from dropping prices starting Jan 17 on all of their models making the new AMD look like a less tempting choice.
Intel owns the pricing structure for CPUs right now, they can drop it whenever they feel like it and they havent felt the need to for years since AMD hasn't been competitive.
The chip sounds good on paper. Glad it's not 140w and I imagine we will see the full reveal at CES.
Intel owns the pricing structure for CPUs right now, they can drop it whenever they feel like it and they havent felt the need to for years since AMD hasn't been competitive.
The chip sounds good on paper. Glad it's not 140w and I imagine we will see the full reveal at CES.
Indeed, for that price... I'll build my new righ tomorrow. Nice VEGA with a nice Ryzen 8 core in it
. But... you just know that European Bitcoiners will buy up VEGA like crazy, and that price will be higher than the 1080TI in Europe . Bitcoin mining is a serious issue for AMD's market, that they need to address. Maybe release bit coin mining version of VEGA that is about the same price but without a display port of any kind? If they don't they'll never make it back into the gaming GPU market as the miners are basically ruining their image.
The lack of a price announcement at this event is probably explained by this. These new processors are a few months away. I don't remember CPU prices being announced this far in advance, although I may be wrong.
What little they showed of the benchmarks looked promising - I am looking forward to proper testing.